6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America

Cliffy

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Here is a fun read that dispels some of the myths you've been taught about the Americas and its original inhabitants:

There's a pretty important detail our movies and textbooks left out of the handoff from Native Americans to white European settlers: It begins in the immediate aftermath of a full-blown apocalypse. In the decades between Columbus' discovery of America and the Mayflower landing at Plymouth Rock, the most devastating plague in human history raced up the East Coast of America. Just two years before the pilgrims started the tape recorder on New England's written history, the plague wiped out about 96 percent of the Indians in Massachusetts.
In the years before the plague turned America into The Stand, a sailor named Giovanni da Verrazzano sailed up the East Coast and described it as "densely populated" and so "smoky with Indian bonfires" that you could smell them burning hundreds of miles out at sea. Using your history books to understand what America was like in the 100 years after Columbus landed there is like trying to understand what modern day Manhattan is like based on the post-apocalyptic scenes from I Am Legend.

Historians estimate that before the plague, America's population was anywhere between 20 and 100 million (Europe's at the time was 70 million). The plague would eventually sweep West, killing at least 90 percent of the native population. For comparison's sake, the Black Plague killed off between 30 and 60 percent of Europe's population.
While this all might seem like some heavy **** to lay on a bunch of second graders, your high school and college history books weren't exactly in a hurry to tell you the full story. Which is strange, because many historians believe it is the single most important event in American history. But it's just more fun to believe that your ancestors won the land by being the superior culture.

One of the best examples of how we got Native Americans all wrong is Cahokia, a massive Native American city located in modern day East St. Louis. In 1250, it was bigger than London, and featured a sophisticated society with an urban center, satellite villages and thatched-roof houses lining the central plazas. While the city was abandoned by the time white people got to it, the evidence they left behind suggests a complex economy with trade routes from the Great Lakes all the way down to the Gulf of Mexico.


Much more here:
6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America | Cracked.com

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Jinentonix

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So you've also been guilty of spreading lies then too eh? It wasn't genocide, it was incidental contact. Your *ahem* "source" (Cracked Magazine, really now?) takes a pretty big swing at the population numbers as well. 20 -100 million? So then how do they know 90% have died off? 90% of 100 million is a helluva lot different than 90% of 20 million now, isn't it?


It wouldn't have mattered whether it was Europeans, Africans, Asians or Arabs who ran across the "New World", once they started making contact with the locals, the fate of the indigenous population would have been sealed. Nor is there any evidence to suggest that any of the other cultures would have treated the surviving Native peoples any better.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Big picture view: Imperialism is the history of the world. People get taken over, over run, wiped out, assimilated, whatever. Where are the Assyrians now, the Hyksos, the Huns, the Saxons, the Jutes, the Etruscans, the Carthaginians, the Phoenicians, the Inca, the Aztecs, the Toltecs...? Gone. No doubt there are descendants of them still around, but they no longer exist as identifiable societies. Cultures form, wax greatly for a while, wane, get destroyed by another waxing culture, and around and around it goes. Modern sensibilities have allowed North American aboriginal societies to survive in some form, though almost certainly a lame and crippled form compared to what they were before European contact, but in any previous age they'd have simply disappeared.
 

Blackleaf

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In 1250, it was bigger than London, and featured a sophisticated society with an urban center, satellite villages and thatched-roof houses lining the central plazas.

Cahokia's population at its peak in the 13th century, an estimated 40,000, would not be surpassed by any city in the United States until the late 18th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia#Rise_and_peak_.2813th_century.29

London's population around 1300 was roughly 80,000 to 100,000.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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So you've also been guilty of spreading lies then too eh? It wasn't genocide, it was incidental contact.
Correct. What happened 1630-1975 was genocide.
It wouldn't have mattered whether it was Europeans, Africans, Asians or Arabs who ran across the "New World", once they started making contact with the locals, the fate of the indigenous population would have been sealed. Nor is there any evidence to suggest that any of the other cultures would have treated the surviving Native peoples any better.
That's an interesting defense.
 

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