39,000 jobs lost in Canada.

[damngrumpy]

There are are many problems associated with the layoff of public sector workers
that is not good but usually goes ignored. First of all the person who loses their
job, in many cases loses their home by virtue of how society operates. The
real estate companies slow down people without good jobs can't buy. Some of
these people go bankrupt some do not. It is also a problem for small business
they don't have the traffic in retail stores, the small businesses that service the
public sector as well as the larger ones feel the pinch and then those jobs are
usually responsible for about five or six spinoff jobs in many cases those people
not all but some lose their jobs.
Shutting down government jobs is the same as shutting down factories the jobs
through the community decrease. Its said government doesn't produce anything.
Not so, they produce local jobs that service government and the small shops that
depend on those workers. Noon hour cafes and lunch counters, the financial
institutions and small shops and services.
So yes it has the potential to be a bad thing if you decrease the jobs to much.
I agree no sense keeping people you don't need but need is like supply and
demand it fluctuates.
It should also be noted people trying to access services are now in some cases
more than a month behind instead of a couple of weeks. Those people know
its a bad thing.
Oh and one more thing when they get behind, they hire many back at a hire rate
to fix the problem so really the savings by government is a smoke screen for short
term gain and the service suffers but ordinary people don't matter do they.

 

[captain morgan]

You should apply that entire train of logic to the private sector, but factor-in the reality that they (private sector) funds 100% of gvt.

 

[JLM]

yeah but it's a cool write up if you're interested

O.K. Sal - the sexual indulgences of animals is not quite at the top of my list of interests, but hey if you are into it go for it. -

There are are many problems associated with the layoff of public sector workers
that is not good but usually goes ignored. First of all the person who loses their
job, in many cases loses their home by virtue of how society operates. The
real estate companies slow down people without good jobs can't buy. Some of
these people go bankrupt some do not. It is also a problem for small business
they don't have the traffic in retail stores, the small businesses that service the
public sector as well as the larger ones feel the pinch and then those jobs are
usually responsible for about five or six spinoff jobs in many cases those people
not all but some lose their jobs.
Shutting down government jobs is the same as shutting down factories the jobs
through the community decrease. Its said government doesn't produce anything.
Not so, they produce local jobs that service government and the small shops that
depend on those workers. Noon hour cafes and lunch counters, the financial
institutions and small shops and services.
So yes it has the potential to be a bad thing if you decrease the jobs to much.
I agree no sense keeping people you don't need but need is like supply and
demand it fluctuates.
It should also be noted people trying to access services are now in some cases
more than a month behind instead of a couple of weeks. Those people know
its a bad thing.
Oh and one more thing when they get behind, they hire many back at a hire rate
to fix the problem so really the savings by government is a smoke screen for short
term gain and the service suffers but ordinary people don't matter do they.

Sometimes it's a necessary thing just from the point of view of economics. In the late '90s just before I retired the provincial gov't was literally strapped and cutting back on expenditures was mandatory. In Victoria there were literally dozens of people dedicated to checking things like local orders, expense vouchers etc. for compliance and accuracy, but since government spending was vastly reduced, the need for these workers was greatly reduced. So what we have is two choices, either lay them off or transfer them to another dept. and lay those people off.

lol well they don't "call" it pink, but when you open the tin it is pink or closer to coral actually...the solid white...yeah it is good, (for fish) I guess... it just doesn't hold up to beef. ;-) I'm a beef girl

Yeah, but it's about a quarter of the price of beef.

 

[gerryh]

Yeah, but it's about a quarter of the price of beef.

You're kidding, right?

 

[JLM]

You're kidding, right?

No I get it for 87 cents a can at Superstore.

 

[gerryh]

No I get it for 87 cents a can at Superstore.

don't think I would want to eat 87 cents a can tuna.

 

[L Gilbert]

Someone cocked up the quotes there.

Anyway, yes, tuna is cheaper than beef. It'll probably remain that will till tuna stocks are depleted like the cod was.
2 places near here sell a can of tuna for less than a buck a can. Last time we got some it was Cloverleaf. Haven't died yet.

 

[gerryh]

Someone cocked up the quotes there.

Anyway, yes, tuna is cheaper than beef. It'll probably remain that will till tuna stocks are depleted like the cod was.
2 places near here sell a can of tuna for less than a buck a can. Last time we got some it was Cloverleaf. Haven't died yet.

guess it depends on what kind of Tuna and where you buy it.

 

[JLM]

don't think I would want to eat 87 cents a can tuna.

Do you think it comes off a different fish than the $1.29 tuna? Actually it's the No name brand, nothing wrong with it. Too many ripoffs with the likes of Heinz, Kraft, Nabob etc.

Someone cocked up the quotes there.

Anyway, yes, tuna is cheaper than beef. It'll probably remain that will till tuna stocks are depleted like the cod was.
2 places near here sell a can of tuna for less than a buck a can. Last time we got some it was Cloverleaf. Haven't died yet.

Nothing wrong with Cloverleaf either.

 

[L Gilbert]

guess it depends on what kind of Tuna and where you buy it.

We usually get Cloverleaf or Ocean's. No difference from the CL light, flaked at 90 cents than the CL light, flaked at a buck 30. Ocean's has comparable prices.

 

[Omicron]

Having a job very seldom leads to being wealthy.

It can if you have a job that pays enough for you to be able to invest in the stock/bond markets after cost-of-living expenses. If you're a good investor, you can leverage it up from there to a tidy sum.

Back in the 50's, 60's and 70's it was possible for middle-class wage earners to have enough left over to do small-scale investments in the stock and bond markets, such that nobody could complain about the capitalist system, because the benefits of investment were available to everyone.

But these days, unless you're in the 1%, who's got enough left after expenses to play with the stock market anymore?

 

[L Gilbert]

Careful people.

 

[JLM]

We usually get Cloverleaf or Ocean's. No difference from the CL light, flaked at 90 cents than the CL light, flaked at a buck 30. Ocean's has comparable prices.

And I'll bet No Name comes from the same source as one of the others. Superstore probably asks for a bid for 1000 tonnes of tuna and cheapest bidder gets the contract.

It can if you have a job that pays enough for you to be able to invest in the stock/bond markets after cost-of-living expenses. If you're a good investor, you can leverage it up from there to a tidy sum.

Back in the 50's, 60's and 70's it was possible for middle-class wage earners to have enough left over to do small-scale investments in the stock and bond markets, such that nobody could complain about the capitalist system, because the benefits of investment were available to everyone.

But these days, unless you're in the 1%, who's got enough left after expenses to play with the stock market anymore?

I hear what you are saying and followed that philosophy during my working life and I always made a fairly good wage and invested in Mutual funds. What it amounts to is approx. an extra 5 grand a year on top of my pensions.

 

[L Gilbert]

And I'll bet No Name comes from the same source as one of the others. Superstore probably asks for a bid for 1000 tonnes of tuna and cheapest bidder gets the contract.

Probably. Easy peasy to replace a label.

I hear what you are saying and followed that philosophy during my working life and I always made a fairly good wage and invested in Mutual funds. What it amounts to is approx. an extra 5 grand a year on top of my pensions.

Mutual funds can be good, yup, and we have a couple. I kinda followed Buffett's method, just invest in good stock and leave it there. Don't get all stressed about buying low and selling high, takes longer to get rich that way mostly. Wifey's the same way: invested every tip she ever made.

 

[Sal]

tuna melts for dinner but they can't be pink...I can't do it...our tuna here is about $3.99 a can for the white... it HAS to be white.

 

[gerryh]

tuna melts for dinner but they can't be pink...I can't do it...our tuna here is about $3.99 a can for the white... it HAS to be white.

and that is around the price I was thinking about.

 

[Sal]

Probably. Easy peasy to replace a label.

Mutual funds can be good, yup, and we have a couple. I kinda followed Buffett's method, just invest in good stock and leave it there. Don't get all stressed about buying low and selling high, takes longer to get rich that way mostly. Wifey's the same way: invested every tip she ever made.

I haven't a clue what to invest in. When I hit 35, realized I was in retail with no pension and would have to secure my own future I went out, got an investor and gave him $25.00 a month. That's all I could afford when I started. He was a conservative investor. I LOVE my investor. He has done well for me. Even when I was unemployed, first priority was give him my money first.

and that is around the price I was thinking about.

I can't eat that fuking pink stuff. I lived on it when I was young.

 

[gerryh]

sorry Charlie

 

[Sal]

sorry Charlie

lmfao

 

[L Gilbert]

I haven't a clue what to invest in. When I hit 35, realized I was in retail with no pension and would have to secure my own future I went out, got an investor and gave him $25.00 a month. That's all I could afford when I started. He was a conservative investor. I LOVE my investor. He has done well for me. Even when I was unemployed, first priority was give him my money first.

That's a good route, too, if you don't mind the investor getting x% in and x% out. Fees are the problem for me. I can't see giving someone else money for doing what I can and will do myself (short of stuff like getting a neighborhood kid to cut the lawn cuz they are saving for college sorta thing).