2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

taxslave

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The political establishment is terrified that The Donald will win and taxpayers will finally have some power over the corrupt politicians and bureaucraps.
 

Walter

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No date on this chart.

Oh I get it.

When you can't defend Trump, you talk about Dems.

That's original.
I'll defend whomever I want. Trump is no conservative.
 

eh1eh

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The political establishment is terrified that The Donald will win and taxpayers will finally have some power over the corrupt politicians and bureaucraps.


Wow. You are in dreamy land.
"Lets put a billionaire (to be confirmed), with a super slick reality TV style platform in power to help the little people."
I guess if you like reality TV you would buy his game.

I'll defend whomever I want. Trump is no conservative.

What do you think he is then?
 

Walter

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Wow. You are in dreamy land.
"Lets put a billionaire (to be confirmed), with a super slick reality TV style platform in power to help the little people."
I guess if you like reality TV you would buy his game.



What do you think he is then?
A liberal Democrat, always has been. But he's no Alinskyite as Mrs. Clinton is.
 

taxslave

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It won't. taxslave is remarkably childlike in his view of government and society.

Charming, really.

I've spent decades dealing with politicians and bureaucraps. Most are useless and some are totally incompetent. The worst have British accents. They don't care about results as long as the process gives the appearance of working. Trump will not stand for that, he will expect results.
 

TenPenny

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I've spent decades dealing with politicians and bureaucraps. Most are useless and some are totally incompetent. The worst have British accents. They don't care about results as long as the process gives the appearance of working. Trump will not stand for that, he will expect results.



I don't think you have a very good grasp of what power a POTUS actually has.
 

mentalfloss

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Trump admits Obama born in U.S., falsely accuses Clinton of starting conspiracy

No wonder he's still losing in the polls.


Trump finally acknowledges Obama born in U.S., falsely accuses Clinton of starting controversy

Republican Donald Trump acknowledged for the first time on Friday that President Barack Obama was born in the United States, reversing himself on a controversy that he helped launch but that has become a distraction to his White House bid.

“President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period,” Trump, who has questioned Obama’s citizenship for years, said at a campaign event at his new hotel in downtown Washington. “Now we all want to get back to making America strong and great again.”

Trump accused Democratic rival Hillary Clinton of starting the so-called “birther” controversy during the 2008 primary campaign against Obama, an accusation that independent fact-checking sites have rated as false.

The New York businessman led the birther movement aimed at Obama, who was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan father.

The issue has not been a factor in the campaign for the Nov. 8 presidential election, but it resurfaced again in recent days, taking the focus of Trump’s campaign away from topics such as immigration, trade and the economy, which he has been using to hit Clinton.

Trump has recovered ground against Clinton in recent national opinion polls after revamping his campaign staff in August and taking steps to give a more polished performance on the campaign trail.

But the birther movement, which casts doubt over whether Obama is legally able to be president, incenses black Americans whose votes Trump has been trying to court.

Although Trump had been expected to address the issue from the start of Friday’s event, half an hour or so was taken up with testimonials on his behalf from retired military officers. His statement at the very end took up less than a minute.

Earlier, Clinton demanded Trump apologize to the president for bringing up the birther topic again.

“Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” Clinton said in an address to the Black Women’s Association in Washington. She said Trump was trying “to delegitimize our first black president.”

“His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie. There is no erasing it in history,” Clinton said.

Trump on Thursday declined to say whether he believed Obama was born in Hawaii during an interview with The Washington Post.

“I’ll answer that question at the right time. I just don’t want to answer it yet,” Trump told the newspaper.

His campaign released a statement later in the day saying the candidate is convinced of the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency. A U.S. president must be a natural-born citizen.

Obama declined to comment on Trump’s revival of the birther issue, telling reporters he had better things to do.

Trump finally acknowledges Obama born in U.S., falsely accuses Clinton of starting controversy - The Globe and Mail
 

Locutus

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Re: Trump admits Obama born in U.S., falsely accuses Clinton of starting conspiracy

wow...exciting stuff.

Here, Tell These People Something They Don't Know About Me

By Kate on September 16, 2016 12:39 PM | No Comments



Trolled, again.
The media showed up to the presidential ballroom of the new Trump International Hotel on Friday morning expecting Donald Trump to take questions about whether he still questions if President Obama was born in the United States.
Hey journalism -- how do you like your new status as punchline?


 

mentalfloss

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So when can we change the forum into your name oh powerful one?

It's clear now that you have some favouritism for what gets merged.
 

mentalfloss

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Way to skirt the issue.

How are ES threads remaining unmerged?

That's not very mod like.

It's certainly very lefty though.
 
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