2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

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Not at all I just shudder at the thought of Hillary being elected .

You're not fooling anybody. All the Trump fans now "claim" they don't actually like him. It's a lot easier than looking in the mirror and acknowledging the shortcomings of your world view
 

JLM

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I doubt you will need to wait beyond 9PM on this one.


48 hours ago I may have agreed with you, now I'm thinking it may be 9 AM the next day.

Not at all I just shudder at the thought of Hillary being elected . Also as a Canadian with no status in the good ole U.S.of A. I really don't support any one . I do however understand why he is the nominee .
Simpleton's like you will never understand that it is not about Trump .


You have it right- don't be deterred by Simpletons' remarks. :) :)
 

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There's a good chance he's going to drop out of the debate tomorrow.


Nancy O'Dell breaks her silence on vulgar Donald Trump recording

Entertainment journalist Nancy O'Dell is finally speaking her mind about being objectified in the leaked 2005 recorded conversation between Donald Trump and Billy Bush, who was her Access Hollywood colleague at that time. In its Friday broadcast, Access Hollywood identified her as the Nancy that Trump said he'd attempted to sleep with in the recording.

On Saturday afternoon, O'Dell issued a statement via the website for her current show, Entertainment Tonight.

'Access Hollywood' has identified former anchor Nancy O'Dell as the woman being discussed by Donald ...more

Alberto E. Rodriguez, Getty Images

"Politics aside, I’m saddened that these comments still exist in our society at all," she wrote. "When I heard the comments yesterday, it was disappointing to hear such objectification of women. The conversation needs to change because no female, no person, should be the subject of such crass comments, whether or not cameras are rolling. Everyone deserves respect no matter the setting or gender. As a woman who has worked very hard to establish her career, and as a mom, I feel I must speak out with the hope that as a society we will always strive to be better."

O'Dell and Bush co-hosted the entertainment news magazine together for five years until she left in 2009. This spring, he swapped places with Today's Natalie Morales, joining NBC's flagship morning show in its 9 a.m. hour while she took over anchor duties on Access Hollywood.

In the setup for Friday's Access Hollywood piece, current anchor Morales provided context for the audio recording first published by the Washington Post.

She explained that Trump had been in Los Angeles to attend the 2005 Emmys on behalf of his nominated reality competition show The Apprentice and that Bush picked him up on a tour bus being used to promote Access Hollywood's 10th anniversary.

That timing means the recording happened in mid-September of that year.

What transpired next, she says, was not a conversation between two men left alone during a break in production who forgot their microphones were still hot.

"There were seven other people on the bus with Mr. Trump and Billy Bush at the time," Morales explained. "They were the two person camera crew, the bus driver, an Access Hollywood producer, a production assistant, Mr. Trump’s security guard and his PR person…What you’re about to hear is what Mr. Trump said about former Access Hollywood anchor Nancy O’Dell.”

As the two men sat on the tour bus, Trump, 59, regaled Bush with the tale of his failed attempt to have sex with O'Dell, the TV host's own colleague. "I moved on her very heavily," Trump recalled, adding that he'd even taken her furniture shopping in attempt to woo her. "I moved on her like a (expletive), but I couldn’t get there and she was married.”

Nancy O'Dell breaks her silence on vulgar Donald Trump recording
 

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I have to acknowledge that Hillary's people have won the day with their patience. They have had the Donald's recording for some time and released it just when they needed it......

Excerpts of Hillary Clinton's paid speeches to Wall Street institutions, divulged by WikiLeaks late on Friday, show why the Democratic presidential nominee was reluctant to have them publicized during her primary battle against populist rival Bernie Sanders

In the lucrative speeches, for which she was paid some $225,00 a pop, Clinton signaled support for a plan that would lower corporate tax rates while raising the Social Security age; admitted she was out-of-touch with regular Americans; explained how politicians "need both a public and a private position;" and embraced a strong pro-trade position that could conflict with remarks she's made on the campaign trail.

WikiLeaks said the cache came from Podesta's email account.

In one revealing excerpt, from a 2014 speech at a Goldman Sachs-Black Rock event, Clinton discussed being "kind of far removed" from the struggles of the middle class, saying.
I am not taking a position on any policy, but I do think there is a growing sense of anxiety and even anger in the country over the feeling that the game is rigged. And I never had that feeling when I was growing up. Never. I mean, were there really rich people, of course there were. My father loved to complain about big business and big government, but we had a solid middle class upbringing. We had good public schools. We had accessible health care. We had our little, you know, one-family house that, you know, he saved up his money, didn't believe in mortgages. So I lived that. And now, obviously, I'm kind of far removed because the life I've lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven't forgotten it.
She also lamented as "onerous and unnecessary" requirements that political candidates divest from certain assets and sell stocks before entering government, saying "there is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives."

And on trade, Clinton told a Brazilian bank in 2013: "My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders...We have to resist, protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access and to trade."
Furthermore, Slate reported:
Some of Clinton's other attempts to position herself as a centrist might trouble progressive Democrats as well. At one point, she tells a crowd at Xerox that America needs "two sensible, moderate, pragmatic parties," which in these sorts of settings comes off as code for "pro-corporate." And at a Morgan Stanley get-together, she says the framework and big elements of the Simpson-Bowles deficit reduction plan, loathed by many progressives because of its cuts to the welfare state, "were right."
Still, as The Intercept points out, "there are signs in the emails released by WikiLeaks that she also took a fairly progressive stance on certain topics, including health care reform":
During a talk in Grand Rapids, Michigan, in 2013, Clinton praised the single-payer model for health care reform. "If you look at the single-payer systems, like Scandinavia, Canada, and elsewhere, they can get costs down because, you know, although their care, according to statistics, overall is as good or better on primary care," she said, adding that there were some drawbacks. "They do impose things like waiting times, you know."

But during the campaign this year, she dismissed the idea, declaring that single payer will "never, ever" happen in the U.S. Audio obtained by The Intercept showed Clinton dismissing the concept of free health care during another private event with donors.
Beyond the speech excerpts, Politico reports, "the emails affirm the campaign’s reputation for extreme caution, with an eagerness to proactively influence news coverage.

WikiLeaks Dumps Excerpts From Paid Speeches Hillary Clinton Sought to Bury | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
 

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I have to acknowledge that Hillary's people have won the day with their patience. They have had the Donald's recording for some time and released it just when they needed it......

WikiLeaks Dumps Excerpts From Paid Speeches Hillary Clinton Sought to Bury | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community



If Trump can keep his trap shut for a couple of days it will all be 'water under the bridge'...................If he can't I have no sympathy for him. It's just too bad the amount of suffering that will be had if that sleaze bucket gets in!


 

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If Trump can keep his trap shut for a couple of days it will all be 'water under the bridge'...................If he can't I have no sympathy for him. It's just too bad the amount of suffering that will be had if that sleaze bucket gets in!



One of those sleaze bags will get in..........

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpnf0Py3yDo







 

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I have to acknowledge that Hillary's people have won the day with their patience. They have had the Donald's recording for some time and released it just when they needed it......

Excerpts of Hillary Clinton's paid speeches to Wall Street institutions, divulged by WikiLeaks late on Friday, show why the Democratic presidential nominee was reluctant to have them publicized during her primary battle against populist rival Bernie Sanders

In the lucrative speeches, for which she was paid some $225,00 a pop, Clinton signaled support for a plan that would lower corporate tax rates while raising the Social Security age; admitted she was out-of-touch with regular Americans; explained how politicians "need both a public and a private position;" and embraced a strong pro-trade position that could conflict with remarks she's made on the campaign trail.

WikiLeaks said the cache came from Podesta's email account.

In one revealing excerpt, from a 2014 speech at a Goldman Sachs-Black Rock event, Clinton discussed being "kind of far removed" from the struggles of the middle class, saying.
I am not taking a position on any policy, but I do think there is a growing sense of anxiety and even anger in the country over the feeling that the game is rigged. And I never had that feeling when I was growing up. Never. I mean, were there really rich people, of course there were. My father loved to complain about big business and big government, but we had a solid middle class upbringing. We had good public schools. We had accessible health care. We had our little, you know, one-family house that, you know, he saved up his money, didn't believe in mortgages. So I lived that. And now, obviously, I'm kind of far removed because the life I've lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven't forgotten it.
She also lamented as "onerous and unnecessary" requirements that political candidates divest from certain assets and sell stocks before entering government, saying "there is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives."

And on trade, Clinton told a Brazilian bank in 2013: "My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders...We have to resist, protectionism, other kinds of barriers to market access and to trade."
Furthermore, Slate reported:
Some of Clinton's other attempts to position herself as a centrist might trouble progressive Democrats as well. At one point, she tells a crowd at Xerox that America needs "two sensible, moderate, pragmatic parties," which in these sorts of settings comes off as code for "pro-corporate." And at a Morgan Stanley get-together, she says the framework and big elements of the Simpson-Bowles deficit reduction plan, loathed by many progressives because of its cuts to the welfare state, "were right."
Still, as The Intercept points out, "there are signs in the emails released by WikiLeaks that she also took a fairly progressive stance on certain topics, including health care reform":
During a talk in Grand Rapids, Michigan, in 2013, Clinton praised the single-payer model for health care reform. "If you look at the single-payer systems, like Scandinavia, Canada, and elsewhere, they can get costs down because, you know, although their care, according to statistics, overall is as good or better on primary care," she said, adding that there were some drawbacks. "They do impose things like waiting times, you know."

But during the campaign this year, she dismissed the idea, declaring that single payer will "never, ever" happen in the U.S. Audio obtained by The Intercept showed Clinton dismissing the concept of free health care during another private event with donors.
Beyond the speech excerpts, Politico reports, "the emails affirm the campaign’s reputation for extreme caution, with an eagerness to proactively influence news coverage.

WikiLeaks Dumps Excerpts From Paid Speeches Hillary Clinton Sought to Bury | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
No Hillary is a woman of great integrity , just ask George and his cherry tree .
 

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Now we just need to leak a tape of Trump speaking positively about women and minorities and he'll lose his base, too.

https://twitter.com/jenstatsky/status/784880119827402752?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Yes. That already happened briefly when Mann Coulter heard about The Donald's change of heart, that to was briefly, on Mexicans.....

Ann Coulter, who is out promoting her new book In Trump We Trust, isn't happy about Trump's ever softening illegal immigration stance

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/08/24/ann-coulter-is-not-happy-with-trumps-softening-on-immigration-n2209481