1 dead in Charlotte protest; police say they didn’t shoot

davesmom

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I'm non-white, grew up fatherless, and own guns. I guess the cops oughta shoot me on sight.



As the man said, 'There are exceptions to every rule'.
Generalization is not good and shouldn't always be taken as such. I admit, I generalized.
If you think about it, I think you will agree that most of life's patterns are set in the early environment. There are exceptions to that too, but those exceptions are minor.
I don't have the right words at hand to describe what kind of home environment I'm referring to, but there is the kind that doesn't produce motivated, forward-thinking children.
Great men do come from humble beginnings but they need strong values and hope instilled in them early in life.
That's my opinion anyway, for what it's worth.
As an example, I raised my son by myself. He was very bright in school but one of his teacher's once told me that it didn't matter, as a child of a broken home he would be a juvenile delinquent and never amount to much. My response: "We'll just see about that!"
My son turned out well, and is now an executive in the computer field of a major banking firm. has never been in trouble and is a kind and caring man.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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As the man said, 'There are exceptions to every rule'.
Generalization is not good and shouldn't always be taken as such. I admit, I generalized.
If you think about it, I think you will agree that most of life's patterns are set in the early environment. There are exceptions to that too, but those exceptions are minor.
I don't have the right words at hand to describe what kind of home environment I'm referring to, but there is the kind that doesn't produce motivated, forward-thinking children.
Great men do come from humble beginnings but they need strong values and hope instilled in them early in life.
That's my opinion anyway, for what it's worth.
As an example, I raised my son by myself. He was very bright in school but one of his teacher's once told me that it didn't matter, as a child of a broken home he would be a juvenile delinquent and never amount to much. My response: "We'll just see about that!"
My son turned out well, and is now an executive in the computer field of a major banking firm. has never been in trouble and is a kind and caring man.
Seriously? I'm jealous.

"A computer expert in banking with his computer can steal more than a MILLION men with guns."
-- Me (apologies to Mario Puzo and Don Corleone)
 

Tecumsehsbones

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As the man said, 'There are exceptions to every rule'.
Generalization is not good and shouldn't always be taken as such. I admit, I generalized.
If you think about it, I think you will agree that most of life's patterns are set in the early environment. There are exceptions to that too, but those exceptions are minor.
I don't have the right words at hand to describe what kind of home environment I'm referring to, but there is the kind that doesn't produce motivated, forward-thinking children.
Great men do come from humble beginnings but they need strong values and hope instilled in them early in life.
That's my opinion anyway, for what it's worth.
As an example, I raised my son by myself. He was very bright in school but one of his teacher's once told me that it didn't matter, as a child of a broken home he would be a juvenile delinquent and never amount to much. My response: "We'll just see about that!"
My son turned out well, and is now an executive in the computer field of a major banking firm. has never been in trouble and is a kind and caring man.
Is it a rule, or is it an old wives' tale?

I know plenty of fatherless people who are doing just fine. And if I recollect right, the guy that shot the Moncton Mounties had a dad, and dad's crazee might coulda had a lot to do with junior's murders.

They say that in the U.S., getting on for 90% of the folks in prison were abused as children. I wonder who did the abusing?

There's also the well-documented fact that one-parent homes don't have as much money as two-parent homes. I wonder how many Jamal Washingtons in our nation's prisons would be walking around free if they were Spencer Worthington IV, and had Spencer Worthington Jr. and III's money buying 'em good lawyers.

Could be a sociology Ph.D. in there. The stats show that kids with fathers in the home tend to end up in college more than prison, but is that just because they have fathers, or is it a whole bunch of other socioeconomic factors that tend to accompany father presence and father absence? Correlation is not causation.
 

Ludlow

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Is it a rule, or is it an old wives' tale?

I know plenty of fatherless people who are doing just fine. And if I recollect right, the guy that shot the Moncton Mounties had a dad, and dad's crazee might coulda had a lot to do with junior's murders.

They say that in the U.S., getting on for 90% of the folks in prison were abused as children. I wonder who did the abusing?

There's also the well-documented fact that one-parent homes don't have as much money as two-parent homes. I wonder how many Jamal Washingtons in our nation's prisons would be walking around free if they were Spencer Worthington IV, and had Spencer Worthington Jr. and III's money buying 'em good lawyers.

Could be a sociology Ph.D. in there. The stats show that kids with fathers in the home tend to end up in college more than prison, but is that just because they have fathers, or is it a whole bunch of other socioeconomic factors that tend to accompany father presence and father absence? Correlation is not causation.
I think it was Judge Pirro who said that about 90% of men in prison come from homes with absentee fathers.

I think it was Judge Pirro who said that about 90% of men in prison come from homes with absentee fathers.
My ole dad high tailed it when I was 8 but I was lucky to have a kind step dad.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I think it was Judge Pirro who said that about 90% of men in prison come from homes with absentee fathers.
So same question. Is it merely the presence of a father that keeps kids out of jail, or is it a bunch of socioeconomic factors that correlate to fathers in the home?

Dave's doing real good, didn't have no father. I'm doing OK, and my mom was a drunk **** (sorry, Mom) and my dad was a man who bought her a few drinks, I guess. Dave had a good mother. I had my grandmother, and some other folks.
 

Ludlow

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I think if anyone is fortunate to have a loyal caring dad that loves you and takes the time to teach you good values and "is there" for you , then the chances are better that you'll turn out okay than otherwise. That being said I know some who had shyt for dads and are doing alright.
 

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Keith Lamont Scott, Cropped and Stabalized

Video recording of Keith Scott shooting in Charlotte. Cropped & stabilized.


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other sources available if you wanna look around.
 

Corduroy

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I have two lines of thought.
Yes I would like something to be done. But I don't like the idea of Federal powers diminishing the State's authority in such matters as policing, education, etc.
Smaller jurisdictions have more chance of keeping control. Federal intervention into State policies could easily create duplications and/or confusion.

As it turns out, smaller jurisdictions are doing a terrible job keeping control and training their officers. American police officers routinely lose their minds, murder innocent people doing nothing wrong, lie about it and help each other lie about it.
 

davesmom

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Seriously? I'm jealous.

"A computer expert in banking with his computer can steal more than a MILLION men with guns."
-- Me (apologies to Mario Puzo and Don Corleone)



Dave'smom smiling ! :)
A computer expert stealing from a bank also get caught and put away for a long time. I'm confident my son doesn't steal. (If I thought he would, I would beat him) smiling again:)