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  1. Tonington

    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    That's not actually answering the question. But let's take it to the next step from where you're headed. Since you're willing to tar everyone with a wide brush, lets make it a simple dichotomy Beaver. Al Gore and his bunch, who campaign to make energy generation clean, and equitable. Or the...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    You're imposing them! You add nothing but noise to these discussions.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Only if you're using Latin spelling, and you definitely do not need a graduate degree to know that. Exactly what degrees do you hold anyways? A master degree in what?
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    Death knell for AGW

    He's an @ss. Those assumptions are without supporting evidence, so it's nothing more than paranoia. Why do you think McIntyre moved onto CRU? There wasn't anything of great value to pick through. NASA does a very good job.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    No, not maybe not. Anna said that increasing carbon dioxide will affect the oceans, and that study clearly indicates that it does. One study where the 7/18 organisms built more shell does not in any way equate to maybe not. The majority of the organisms studied did not increase shell growth...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Simply proclaiming this to be true doesn't make it so. I'm sticking with the studies that have data to back up conclusions, over your examples of the Dunning -Kruger effect.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    So, is it only evidence if it's confirmed by observational data? Not unusual at all. My hammers give the same output. The tool is the hammer, the strikes on the nail are not a tool. The finished product, made using the tool is something completely different. When used as an experiment, it's...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Where on Earth would you get the idea that Al Gorepone has anything to do with research grants???
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    Larger effort to discredit Climate Science

    Turns out it wasn't only the CRU that was being targeted. The University of Victoria was also being targeted. Not only was the email server attacked, but burglars broke into the campus, stole computers, and rummaged through papers in offices. Whistleblowers? I think not. Attempted breaches...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Climategate makes this relationship abundantly clear.
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    Death knell for AGW

    So where is all the carbonic acid coming from? How would you explain the shifting carbonate equilibrium in ocean waters?
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    Climategate- the irony

    And since Watergate, people have added gate to words to imply scandal. List of scandals with "-gate" suffix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Climategate- the irony

    Today's bit of irony is: Climategate. Adding the 'gate' suffix to some keyword implies a scandal. Which part of Watergate was scandalous? The inner workings of the DNC, or the surveillance and documentation of the DNC inner workings? :smile:
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    Death knell for AGW

    Whistleblowers?? I've seen quite a few of those emails posted elsewhere, some of which are unambiguously benign. Dealing with researchers asking questions about where to go for certain sources of data, in some cases talking about travel plans, and one researcher travelling home for his wife's...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Probably not for 6 weeks straight though, which is what I meant but wasn't clear on. Check out the monthly mean temperature data (download the text file) for Prince George. Nothing close to -40°C. My point is that there was never a time when 100% mortality was reached.
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    Socialists in a Panic

    If models are tools, what is the model output? A hammer is a tool, but the output is not. It's evidence. No, they use equations that are entered into them. The only data is the initialization of the model. Obviously you have to specify some starting point. What tool do you suggest should be...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    But the records don't lie. You said it yourself. The sediment does not lie. And sediment does show evidence of meteor impacts and volcanic eruptions. Not that simple. Sediment thickness is related to erosion and deposition, amongst many other factors. Nobody is saying that ice ages are...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    The sediment doesn't. His methods might. He only studied one lake...
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    Socialists in a Panic

    Whatever you mean, you're wrong. Ice ages start out with growing ice in the polar regions. This is brought on by slight orbital changes. The change in incoming solar radiation isn't enough to produce an ice age. There needs to be a change in the albedo (growing ice sheets) as well to bounce more...