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  1. Tonington

    US Congress will put price on carbon this session

    Here's why. 1) EPA has announced it's intention to regulate carbon emissions, with it's final ruling. 2) Bipartisan support in the Senate is there, the House bill passed already. 3) Business leaders are calling for it. Even for those against a price on carbon, regulation by the EPA is much...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Explain logically please how this could cause such a phenomenon as stratospheric cooling while heating the troposphere.
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Ahh, small dead animals posts a lot of issues typically taken up, or against, by conservatives. I'm not surprised it was linked to there. The internet is a bit of an echo chamber when it comes to issues.
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    How much do we need to clean up our act? How do you know when the manufacturing line is producing at optimal efficiency? How do you know that the machine packaging cherry tomatoes isn't cheating one way or the other? How do you know that a new treatment is better than an old one for a disease...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Yes you've said so. But you haven't offered anything better. How do you do a test for significance? Significant results are what science uses, and they've worked just fine at producing the technology that you are using right now. If I perform an experiment, how am I to know that next time I...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    NOAA is part of the US Department of commerce. They are not involved with CRU, who are part of the British meteorology program. I saw these graphs earlier today, on this blog: the Foresight Institute » Some Historical Perspective There's a few things to note. It's one record, from one place...
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    The Climate Summit in Copenhagen Must Be Cancelled!

    The UK, Mexico, Norway, and Australia have proposed a fund that would address mitigation and adaptation, and give priority to those most at risk, and least able to afford the solutions. We have to adapt to mitigate what we can, and adapt to what we can't. Despite what the ignoramuses are...
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    Mexico shuts down Canadian operated mine

    Mexico shuts down Canadian mine - thestar.com Yikes. There is a bill (C-300) the Corporate Accountability of Mining, Oil and Gas Corporations in Developing Countries Act working it's way through Parliament right now which is relevant to these kinds of incidents. I wouldn't want this one in...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Zigactly! CRU has problems, there's no question about that. Their system is old, and a patchwork of code. But most of it's data is the same data that GISS uses, only with different treatments of data, and they both come out with the same answer. Undoubtedly it would be a good thing if their data...
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    The Climate Summit in Copenhagen Must Be Cancelled!

    Global warming refers to a phenomenon, specifically it refers to the human source of greenhouse gases building up, and increasing energy retained by Earth's atmosphere. Climate change is a scientific term, which is defined as thirty years of the average weather conditions. It doesn't say...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    .... Manchester University Andrew RD Smedley Chris Dearden Daniel Housley Dr A Murray Booth Dr Alice Bows Dr Daniel Grosvenor Dr David Owen Topping Dr Duncan Irving Dr Grant Allen Dr J Rowntree Dr John S Rimmer Dr Karl Beswick Dr...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Statement from the UK science community 10 December 2009 We, members of the UK science community, have the utmost confidence in the observational evidence for global warming and the scientific basis for concluding that it is due primarily to human activities. The...
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    The Climate Summit in Copenhagen Must Be Cancelled!

    lol, and a toon for good measure:
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    The Climate Summit in Copenhagen Must Be Cancelled!

    Where do you find malaria in the world today? Who cares where it once was, where is it now?
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    The Climate Summit in Copenhagen Must Be Cancelled!

    Emails that rocked climate change campaign leaked from Siberian 'closed city' university built by KGB | Mail Online http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/un-blames-professional-hackers-20091207-kffs.html
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    Lord Monckton: Shut Down The UN, Arrest The Warmist Criminals

    If I were a cop I would go to the primary sources, not Gore and Monckton. Gore and Monckton are like reporters. Reporters frame the issue. That's why I don't pay much attention to their message. I can get a better, more cogent message elsewhere, the frame I can put together myself. Yeah, if it...
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    Lord Monckton: Shut Down The UN, Arrest The Warmist Criminals

    BINGO! I see one difference though. I've seen plenty of Monckton's presentations. He's much like Palin. He'll keep including falsehoods even after they've been debunked. When Gore was informed of the error when he included a graph showing hurricane damage and his linkage of the number of...
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    Lord Monckton: Shut Down The UN, Arrest The Warmist Criminals

    Monckton calling climate crashers "Hitler's Youth" It's funny that Rex Murphy was lamenting the name deniers the other day, because it's a related term to the holocaust. I wonder what he thinks of this name calling? YouTube - US Youth Crash Climate Denier Live Webcast in Copenhagen
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    Lord Monckton: Shut Down The UN, Arrest The Warmist Criminals

    It was launched in 1999, and solved in 2000. That's the problem with people like Monckton, besides his woeful understanding of physics. They underestimate human ingenuity. The market is very good at solving problems. We got lead out of gasoline, sulphur out of our rain, we can get carbon out...