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Maybe you should try something new - like reading the thread title. All discussion of renewables is appropriate or perhaps you don't realize solar and wind power are both green energy.

Given that using coal and oil kills more wildlife of all sorts than any other form of energy it is hard to see how wind and solar can be any worse. If we really cared about birds we'd stop building skyscrapers. Wow, that comment is pure genius. Who would have guessed that solar power is not...

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You're out of touch. I posted a link months ago showing that the biggest killer of birds was poisons from fossil fuels. And renewables continue to advance despite denials from technophobes. Kamuthi: The world's largest solar power project Kamuthi: The world's largest solar power project -...

Top ten turbine makers of 2017 https://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/1445638/top-ten-turbine-makers-2017

Another wonderful and pretty much useless product of the oil industry. https://globalnews.ca/news/4155172/britain-bans-plastic-straws-canada/

'Poop Train' Full of NYC Sewage Raises Stink in Alabama Town https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2018-04-18/it-smells-like-death-alabama-endures-nyc-poop-train Talk about shit hitting the fan. Alabama's lax environmental laws allow sewage and other waste from other states to be...

Are you attempting to prove Hoid correct?

Nice of you to accept the figures of someone who believes in the worldwide Jewish conspiracy. What other dogma do you support - flat earth? Geocentric theory? Creationism? Gee what do you know? Not everyone lives in Canada and the US. For those who do not understand it, climate change is...

Given that electric engines already beat that; I can't see the point.

You do realize national temperatures are derived from the averages for every region don't you? And another completely irrelevant and off-topic reply.

Yep. 2017 Was the Third Hottest Year on Record for the U.S. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/2017-was-the-third-hottest-year-on-record-for-the-u-s/

I also hope you live a long life. Another twenty years or so and you will live to see the internal combustion engine's last days.

Hey it's not me that thinks the internal combustion engine will live on. And what has frustration to do with this? I enjoy popping your balloons.

Right - so you are supporting my point that all sorts of mining causes damage. Or perhaps you didn't get the point. Careful You will upset those who do not understand that technology changes; especially when a better way of doing things comes along. I wonder what those statistics would...

And then there is the Alberta tar sands.

Actually it means that none of those factors matter. Figure it out.

And my who cares comment means...?

And your point is?

Obviously because China is building so many wind turbines in China.