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    AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

    A blog entry... How compelling
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    AGW Grudge Match

    As well if not better than yourself Excellent overview: As such, i will ask you a second time, regarding your comment about testability; How do you propose to prove that your references/hypotheses (relative to AGW) considering that they must fit in with the infinite number of variables that...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    It sounds like you're under the impression that nothing has ever changed and won't ever change in the future. .. I have some ad news for on that one.
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Is that really a bad thing?
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    AGW Grudge Match

    Untestable? Exactly how do you propose to test this? How do you propose to provide comprehensive, scaled tests to support your position? The fact is that any "test" to support either my position or your position would be so rife with assumptions and speculation - let alone the reality that only...
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    AGW Grudge Match

    I suppose that you believe that mass extinctions have never occurred? - Oh, let me guess, it was just limited to the land animals that could be corralled on an arc.
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    AGW Grudge Match

    Agreed... I am looking at this from a different angle, that being humanity's "forcings" are not strong enough to alter the climate in the manner that is being assumed by groups like the UN/IPCC, specifically wherein curbing man's CO2 in the UN/IPCC prescribed manner will correct/reverse or...
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    AGW Grudge Match

    The natural cycle that I am referring to represents all of the known and even more unknown mechanisms all of which combine to affect the environment on the planet. These factors all combine to manifest themselves in an expression that is observable.... Does it have a formal name? Does it matter...
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    AGW Grudge Match

    Numerous theories have been forwarded to offer explanation regarding the dramatic fluctuations observed throughout the geological record including massive volcanic eruptions to possible meteor hits. What all these theories have in common is that they are all founded on a natural source/causation...
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    AGW Grudge Match

    The view that I maintain is that climatic fluctuations are all part of a natural cycle that is evidenced throughout the history of the globe. Studies of core samples from recovered in anaerobic environments provide a clue to paleoclimatic conditions hundreds of thousands of years in the past...
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    AGW Grudge Match

    Tonnington; As per our agreement to pursue a formal approach to this debate, here is the thread in which this can be accomplished. I have cut/paste the principle positions that we each had outlined in late February. I ask that you review this and confirm the statement or make the necessary...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Nope... The IPCC/UN are only the mouth piece that relies on the scientific community - this is where East Anglia comes into the picture. If you want to split hairs on the spin-factor - you were the one that said flip-flop as opposed to modification - there's a world of difference there. In the...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    The CRU at East Anglia was one of the primary research facilities that heavily (if not exclusively) influenced the IPCC and UN on this issue... This group represents ground zero in the peer review process for the GW debate - if their process is corrupted, then the entire fabric is affected...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    The ideal represented relates to the possibility that the entire peer review process (in terms of the AGW debate) are tainted... It is not the individual scientists that are in question, it is the context of the entire debate... IF the allegations surrounding peer review are suspect, then the...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    Anna... How do you (and Cobalt Kid) respond to the possibility that the peer review process (on the GW issue) was manipulated to minimize the exposure of non-supportive AGW researchers... How about the contention that the IPCC/UN recently reversed their positions of the Himalayan glacier...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    .. Ahhh - It all very clear now. You will be the judge of the "approved" scientific thought and representatives. You should've said that from the beginning. As a side note, Exxon, Syncrude and all the majors also fund many eco-interests (incl Suzuki)... Interesting that I am not aware of a...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    I guess that we have something in common there... I too enjoy a good laugh at those folks who confuse trendy ideals with fact... Case in point, apparently you feel the need to associate the air we breath, water and even soil with CO2 and the debate on the relationship betwen potential warming...
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    Death knell for AGW

    Sure did.. Crosby from Iggy for the tin! Not exactly a highlight reel goal, but it counts all the same.
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    Death knell for AGW

    Anna, In the context of this discussion, CO2 and pollution are not interchangeable. If one were to really (I mean really, really) split hairs on this issue and pursue the anthropogenic angle honestly; this entire debate would focus on global, sustainable population assessments... In the end...
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    Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’

    I think that the "scam" part relates to the push by some groups to profit from the confusion. Relative to the remainder of what you suggest - I also agree with what you have stated, including the notion that humanity kicks-into the equation from everything to respiring CO2 to the use of...