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Or some other fucking tragedies. A statistical one-in-a-million shot tells you nothing about the group from which the person comes or with which the person identifies.

If the group is significant, it should be noted that, down hereabouts anyhow, most mass shooters are young (21-30) heterosexual White men.
I'm not equating it to mass shooters, I'm saying expect more tragedies and violent acts from the "Trans community," because most of the violent ones aren't actually trans, they're mentally ill, who were told their trans.
 
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Within hours of the first reports, many commentators did what they almost always do in crime coverage: they started sketching the perpetrator in demographic shorthand. Age. Appearance. Sex. In some accounts, the suspect was described as “female.” In others, as a “female with brown hair, wearing a dress.” Female wasn’t a throwaway adjective. It was part of the mental picture readers were being asked to form.

The adjective “female” stuck out. Not because women are incapable of violence, but because in this specific category of atrocity, female perpetrators are rare enough that the descriptor does cognitive work. Your brain can’t help it. It starts asking: What’s different here? What explains the outlier? You don’t have to like that instinct for it to be real.

If a newsroom believes sex is relevant enough to include in the first wave of reporting, relevant enough to help the public picture the perpetrator when our only context is “18,” “female,” “dress” and “brown hair,” then sex can’t become irrelevant the moment it gets complicated.

Either the public deserves a clear picture of who we’re discussing, or it doesn’t. Either sex is useful context, or it’s not. Treating “female” as a singularly normal adjective while treating “trans” as unspeakable isn’t neutral reporting. The rule here isn’t “always mention it” or “never mention it.” It’s relevance, consistency, and honesty about what you’re doing.

If an identity marker doesn’t clarify the story, leave it out. If it does clarify the picture you’ve already asked readers to form, then say it plainly once it’s confirmed, instead of letting people piece it together through rumour and resentment. In any story about such an atrocity, being “trans” is at least as relevant as being “female.”
Unfortunately, it's not about a clear picture, it's about narrative.
Follow the narrative.
You are Number 5.
 

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I'm not equating it to mass shooters, I'm saying expect more tragedies and violent acts from the "Trans community," because most of the violent ones aren't actually trans, they're mentally ill, who were told their trans.
So, do we blame the trans community or the mental-illness community?

I know! How about True Dope? Let's blame him!
 

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Personally, I hate to disagree with the trans community, whoever the fuck they are, but I think the approach to grow the community and normalize it is going to lead to a lot of fucked up people. I've heard quite a few cases already of people who transitioned, cutting off their biological parts, only to find out they were suffering from mental illnesses like clinical depression, bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia. Expect more of these tragedies.
And lawsuits as well. It appears that those who are in the process of de transitioning are doing so because they've been lied to. Huh, who knew??? (snark).
 
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If a newsroom believes sex is relevant enough to include in the first wave of reporting, relevant enough to help the public picture the perpetrator when our only context is “18,” “female,” “dress” and “brown hair,” then sex can’t become irrelevant the moment it gets complicated.
this is much how police would write it if the person of interest was at large.WHen they already know the person of interest is already dead, it seeems a bit odd.
 

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Significant brain damage to child shot in Tumbler Ridge: Mom
Maya Gebala remains in critical condition at B.C. Children's Hospital in Vancouver, following surgery for multiple gunshot wounds

Author of the article:Brian Towie
Published Feb 16, 2026 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read

Maya Gebala, 12. is fighting for her life in a B.C. hospital. Facebook
Maya Gebala, 12. is fighting for her life in a B.C. hospital. Facebook Photo by Facebook /Facebook
Maya Gebala, the 12-year-old girl fighting for her life after the Tumbler Ridge shooting on Feb. 10, has significant damage to the left side of her brain, her mother Cia Edmonds posted in a Facebook update.


Maya was shot in the Tumbler Ridge, B.C., mass shooting that resulted in the deaths of nine people, including the shooter. Maya is one of the 27 people injured in the shooting. She remains in critical condition at B.C. Children’s Hospital in Vancouver, following surgery for multiple gunshot wounds.


“There’s damage to her brain stem from where the bullet exited,” Edmonds wrote. “Because of the damage and swelling surrounding it, it is hard to say how much response and deliberate function she will be able to regain, however, we are hopeful. There’s significant damage to the left side of her brain, that is where the bullet entered and exited, it tore right through.”

Progress ‘uplifting’
Edmonds says though her progress is encouraging, she fears Maya’s condition could take a turn for the worse.

“The progress is so uplifting, I dread the day it plateaus,” Edmonds writes. “She has been cleared for a feeding tube and is (thankfully) not considered to pass in the immediate future. There are still many fears. There are still risks her heart could stop … there is fluid build up in her lungs, or of course … She may just stop progressing, and this is it.


“There are a lot of positives, of course, but this recovery won’t be linear. I still sing to her. Talk to her, tell her how proud we are and that the entire world is cheering her on.”

Edmonds notes the worldwide love and support her family has received is making a major difference when Maya’s outlook was at its darkest.

“I believe that positive energy and prayer has helped her to rise above the imminent and dire initial expectations,” she writes. “We cannot stop now, we have so far to go yet.”


Please let Maya rest, family says
While Edmonds says the support for Maya is welcome, she wants well-wishers to refrain from visit her.

“Hey I have caught wind of a post that was made regarding a person wanting to fill several buses with people to come visit maya???” she wrote. “That is very unacceptable. There are other children and families with their own flavor of tragedy and the last thing they need is to feel bombarded.. Maya also needs rest.”

GoFundMe for Maya, teammate
A GoFundMe page for Maya and another for the family her teammate and her 13-year-old friend Ezekiel Schofield, who was killed in the shooting, have been set up for those who wish to donate. As of Monday afternoon, more than $420,000 has been raised for Maya.
 
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Significant brain damage to child shot in Tumbler Ridge: Mom
Maya Gebala remains in critical condition at B.C. Children's Hospital in Vancouver, following surgery for multiple gunshot wounds

Author of the article:Brian Towie
Published Feb 16, 2026 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read

Maya Gebala, 12. is fighting for her life in a B.C. hospital. Facebook
Maya Gebala, 12. is fighting for her life in a B.C. hospital. Facebook Photo by Facebook /Facebook
Maya Gebala, the 12-year-old girl fighting for her life after the Tumbler Ridge shooting on Feb. 10, has significant damage to the left side of her brain, her mother Cia Edmonds posted in a Facebook update.


Maya was shot in the Tumbler Ridge, B.C., mass shooting that resulted in the deaths of nine people, including the shooter. Maya is one of the 27 people injured in the shooting. She remains in critical condition at B.C. Children’s Hospital in Vancouver, following surgery for multiple gunshot wounds.


“There’s damage to her brain stem from where the bullet exited,” Edmonds wrote. “Because of the damage and swelling surrounding it, it is hard to say how much response and deliberate function she will be able to regain, however, we are hopeful. There’s significant damage to the left side of her brain, that is where the bullet entered and exited, it tore right through.”

Progress ‘uplifting’
Edmonds says though her progress is encouraging, she fears Maya’s condition could take a turn for the worse.

“The progress is so uplifting, I dread the day it plateaus,” Edmonds writes. “She has been cleared for a feeding tube and is (thankfully) not considered to pass in the immediate future. There are still many fears. There are still risks her heart could stop … there is fluid build up in her lungs, or of course … She may just stop progressing, and this is it.


“There are a lot of positives, of course, but this recovery won’t be linear. I still sing to her. Talk to her, tell her how proud we are and that the entire world is cheering her on.”

Edmonds notes the worldwide love and support her family has received is making a major difference when Maya’s outlook was at its darkest.

“I believe that positive energy and prayer has helped her to rise above the imminent and dire initial expectations,” she writes. “We cannot stop now, we have so far to go yet.”


Please let Maya rest, family says
While Edmonds says the support for Maya is welcome, she wants well-wishers to refrain from visit her.

“Hey I have caught wind of a post that was made regarding a person wanting to fill several buses with people to come visit maya???” she wrote. “That is very unacceptable. There are other children and families with their own flavor of tragedy and the last thing they need is to feel bombarded.. Maya also needs rest.”

GoFundMe for Maya, teammate
A GoFundMe page for Maya and another for the family her teammate and her 13-year-old friend Ezekiel Schofield, who was killed in the shooting, have been set up for those who wish to donate. As of Monday afternoon, more than $420,000 has been raised for Maya.
Psychosis affirming care failed these children.
 
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So, do we blame the trans community or the mental-illness community?
I would say you blame both. The Trans community for acting like a tyrannical minority and attacking anyone who raises questions about their sudden monopoly on who is right and who is wrong about gender. The mental health community for abandoning science and biology for activism. Those doctors who think most of this is environmental hysteria won't dare speak up because we now live in the Woke McCarthy era.
 

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Mom of Tumbler Ridge victim 'overwhelmed' by constant mail
Cia Edmonds also said on social media that daughter Maya is 'deteriorating mentally and physically'

Author of the article:Spiro Papuckoski
Published Mar 13, 2026 • Last updated 9 hours ago • 2 minute read

Maya Gebala has been hospitalized since the Tumbler Ridge shooting on Feb. 10, 2026.
Maya Gebala has been hospitalized since the Tumbler Ridge shooting on Feb. 10, 2026. Photo by Cia Edmonds /Facebook
The mother of a victim critically injured in the Tumbler Ridge school shooting said she has been “overwhelmed” by constant letters and packages mailed each day.


Cia Edmonds also said on social media that her 12-year-old daughter Maya Gebala is “deteriorating mentally and physically” as she remains in hospital a month after the shooting.


The mother said while she recognized the public’s positivity following the tragic incident that claimed nine lives, including that of the shooter, in the small British Columbia community, she is asking anyone who still wants to send mail to “kindly hold off.”

“We are extremely grateful for an overwhelming amount of support and love for Maya, and some for us, and some for Dahlia. We are so overwhelmed.” Edmonds shared Thursday on Facebook.

Family inundated with mail
Edmonds joked she is going to need a storage unit after saying her family received more than 1,500 pieces of mail after sharing her address online, with letters coming in packs of 50 daily.


“We aren’t able to get through it fast enough,” she wrote. “It is literally everywhere. Especially since Maya has not been doing well in the past week.”

She also asked her followers to pray for her daughter.

“I’ve never been a religious person. However, I can recognize the positive shift when there is collective love and positivity.”

Edmonds and David Gebala marked one month since their daughter was injured in the mass shooting in separate online posts earlier this week.

She shared photos of her daughter’s arm on the first day in hospital and a month later.

Father living in state of limbo
Gebala said on Facebook the “days have blurred together so much that I’m not even sure where the time goes,” adding he lives in a state of limbo as he stays by his daughter’s side.


“When I look at Maya, I know she’s still in there, and we just keep hoping for the best version of her,” he continued. “It’s a day-by-day battle. I try to stay strong for everyone around me, but the truth is the weight of it all is crushing.”

Gebala said his mind drifts to the other children in the school on that day, haunted by the thoughts of how scared they must have been as well as the screaming and crying.

“No one is ever prepared for something like this,” he wrote.



Admitting he is not someone who shares what is going on in his mind, Gebala said he will seek help.

“Right now it feels like I’m losing parts of myself and constantly searching for distractions to hide what I’m feeling,” he said.

“I’ve never really been someone who opens up easily, but I’m going to try. I’m going to seek trauma counselling and take that step forward.”
 

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Tumbler Ridge mass shooting families sue Sam Altman, OpenAI
They are suing OpenAI in California 'to pursue landmark damage awards'

Author of the article:Eddie Chau
Published Apr 29, 2026 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read

Community members place flowers during a vigil to honor the victims of one of Canada's deadliest mass shootings in Tumbler Ridge, British Columbia, Canada, on February 13, 2026. Photo by PAIGE TAYLOR WHITE /AFP via Getty Images
Victims of the mass shooting in Tumbler Ridge, B.C., and their families have filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Sam Altman and his company, OpenAI.


In a lawsuit brought forth by lawyers representing seven people affected by the Feb. 10 shooting, the victims accuse Altman and his artificial intelligence company of failing to warn authorities, and aiding and abetting the shooting, among other allegations.


Chicago-based lawyer Jay Edelson, who is representing some victims of the mass shooting, said they will likely be seeking more than US$1 billion in their lawsuit against OpenAI and Altman.

The plaintiffs include 12-year-old Maya Gebala, who was severely injured after being shot in the head, and the father of Abel Mwansa Jr., also 12, who was killed in the shooting.

Jesse Van Rootselaar, 18, shot and killed her mother and half-brother at their home before going on to fatally shoot five children and a teacher at the secondary school. Numerous others were injured.

Van Rootselaar died of a self-inflicted gunshot.


Shooter’s ‘disturbing content’
Lawyers with firm Rice Parsons Leoni & Elliot LLP said Van Rootselaar’s ChatGPT account was banned prior to the shooting for “disturbing content,” which allegedly included planning violent scenarios.

“However, despite some 12 different OpenAI employees imploring the company to notify Canadian law enforcement about the Shooter’s plans, nothing else was done,” the firm said in a media release, per CBC News.

The law firm presented seven lawsuits filed by shooting victims. Litigating the case in Canada would be challenging as damages for pain and suffering cases are capped at about $470,000, they said.

That’s why they are suing OpenAI in California “to pursue landmark damage awards.” The firm also noted that a lawsuit filed in British Columbia by the family of Maya Gebala has been discontinued.

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Sam Altman arrives at the 12th Breakthrough Prize Ceremony on Saturday, April 18, 2026, at Barker Hangar in Santa Monica, Calif. Photo by Jordan Strauss /Jordan Strauss/Invision/AP
What OpenAI has said on shooting
After the shooting, OpenAI commented on the incident, stating Van Rootselaar’s worrisome behaviour while using ChatGPT was flagged by its staff, but they didn’t go to the police with their concerns.


The artificial intelligence company admitted that Rootselaar got around a chatbot ban by creating a second account, CityNews reported.

In a statement, OpenAI said it has a “zero-tolerance policy for using our tools to assist in committing violence.”

“As we shared with Canadian officials, we have already strengthened our safeguards, including improving how ChatGPT responds to signs of distress, connecting people with local support and mental health resources, strengthening how we assess and escalate potential threats of violence, and improving detection of repeat policy violators,” the statement read, per CBC News.

Last week, Altman apologized for OpenAI not alerting authorities about Van Rootselaar’s behaviour and account bans.

“The pain your community has endured is unimaginable,” Altman wrote in a letter.

“I am deeply sorry we did not alert law enforcement to the account that was banned in June. While I know words can never be enough, I believe an apology is necessary to recognize the harm and irreversible loss your community has suffered.”

— With files from The Canadian Press
 

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I predict a big win for. . . the lawyers.

When I graduated law school, I thought seriously of suing the Fortune 100 for a million bucks apiece, on whatever grounds I could dream up. Way I saw it, 10% would prefer a not-too-damaging settlement to the hassle and negative publicity of a lawsuit. So I figured I'd settle with 10% of 'em for $100,000 each, and walk away with a cool million.
 
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It is interesting that this is being pursued in a California court, instead of in BC. I suppose the chances of a large payout are better.
Say $100 million to make it go away. Lawyers get around $30 million, and a dozen or so miners become instant multi millionaires and move south.