Best for America II - McCain or Obama
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Obama is the shiney bumper on the next used car and it's a real lemon. Had to get that out of there before Kreskin sobered up.
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Obama, should he be elected has promised to widen the war on terrorism. He has also threatened Iran and he agrees with the architechs of the neo-liberal economic disaster, in other words he's a liar and as great a criminal as George Bush. Though he promises change this is certainly nothing more than the typical doublespeak and bull**** that passes for political direction and discussion in the USA. He's a media invention, there's nothing there but the form which has no substance. There'll be no change from this dungball. sorry
Look behind Obamas curtain and you find the same Washington power brokers from yesterday who work the mans strings, Madelin Albright and Brezinski are just two of many. If you review the careers of those two you will see what change there will be, none. Brezinski in particular is in good part responsible for the direction of American military and economic expansion to the present disaster.
Spocq I'm not quessing about where Obama stands on the issues, I'm looking at his declared programe and who he hangs with. The contributions of his supporters does not in any way determine Obamas direction. He has already amply indicated where his loyalties lie and that is firmly behind Israel and the military financial complex. He's not an honest man in any sence of the word. The last maverick president who really did try to change the American direction was Kenedy, and you know what happened to him. Obama will not cross those lines drawn in the sand by the elite, he knows what happens to rebels in American politics.
If you are right we are in for a rough ride and I'm heading for the mountains. I say we should get the Green Party in Canada and they should get Obama in the states and if they don't fix our countries like they say then we should head for the mountains and get as far away from a democracy as we can, cause its all lies and suffering for the people. Go and make utopia and leave the suffering behind! 
If you are right we are in for a rough ride and I'm heading for the mountains. I say we should get the Green Party in Canada and they should get Obama in the states and if they don't fix our countries like they say then we should head for the mountains and get as far away from a democratic country as we can, cause its all lies and suffering for the people. Go and make utopia and leave the suffering behind!
As responsible citizens we are obliged to work to change the percieved wrongs of our respective nations and there is no doubt that affecting these changes will be a long and deadly process. The wheels on the war machine are being greased, there is no solution that will preserve the privilage of the elite but war. I tried but could not get far enough away from our problems and I would not like to abandon my friends and family to the benevolence of the bankers. No, there's no easy way arround the problems of these days, we must work hard for justice and peace or we will become victims of crime and war.
Okay....I guess Obama read the same article....
He's around 20 yrs or so younger than Barack Obama, same dad, so they're half brothers,
and I think he's only met him 2 or 3 times, but he is supporting his education, before
the article.;-)
""Am I my brother's keeper?""
Right wingers are supposed to be self reliant.
By contrast, right wingers also believe in morality or so they say. But McLame abandoned his wife and kids for a wealthy adulteress who is addicted to drugs and who stole from her company despite her wealth.
Right wingers are supposed to be self reliant.
By contrast, right wingers also believe in morality or so they say. But McLame abandoned his wife and kids for a wealthy adulteress who is addicted to drugs and who stole from her company despite her wealth.
I'm not saying to leave our friends and family behind, bring they with us to utopia. Create the society that we should have, forget democracy and those that control us into these pits of suffering. Teach people the truth so they control them selves and not make others suffer. Its obvious that it will never work in a democratic society since anyone who will bring the changes that will fix it are prevented by those who control.
That's pretty much the way it is Spocq. Democracy though is a very good system but it requires that the citizen become involved on a day to day basis and not just at election time. People have to take back thier own government and never leave it to special interests like the financial sector or for that matter the rest of the private sector which has in the last thirty years systematically destroyed the public sector and carried it away. If we were to exercise our responsibilitys as citizens and become involved right at the community level we could create a real democracy of the majority and replace the diseased model of the privilaged elite.
Sounds to me like you are contradicting the facts. It really doesn't matter what we do cause the controllers will just prevent anyone from getting into power that doesn't have their best interest as their policies. We will never win cause there is no such thing as democracy, its all hype just to pacify us so we don't cause any waves. We are nothing more then slaves working to make them richer while we suffer trying to make ends meet.
Actually, Gopher, there are a couple of studies out there that show right wingers to be much more generous and giving that those on the left.....
http://www.reason.com/news/show/117303.html
Survey says!
Yes., except I'm not saying.
research says older conservatives are the most generous when giving to charity.......young liberal are the most stingy.......
Read the article.
From my experience, it is quite true.