101 Atheist Quotes

[diamond lady]

quindary is right , Two words "intelligent design"

Something that is perfectly designed, can not happen by mere change
Designed means having a designer

Its quite simple to understand; even a small child would understand this.
Let us look at what the scientist have said about intelligent design

Let the scientist speak.

The big bang theory holds that the universe began with a single explosion. Yet as can be seen, an explosion merely throws matter apart, while the big bang has mysteriously produced the opposite effect- with matter clumping together in the form of galaxies. (Fred Hoyle)

"If we need an atheist for a debate, I go to the philosophy department. The physics department isn't much use." (Robert Griffiths American geneticist)

The impression of Design is overwhelming."(Paul Davies, mathematical physicist)

[FONT=&quot]How could this possibly have come to pass (that the laws of physics conform themselves to life)?…As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather Agency- must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?[/FONT] (GeorgeGreenstein,[FONT=&quot] American astronomer)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The explosive vigour of the universe is thus matched with almost unbelievable accuracy to its gravitating power. The big bang was not evidently, any old bang, but an explosion of exquisitely arranged magnitude. [/FONT][FONT=&quot](Paul Davies, Professor of Theoretical Physics)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has underlying (one might say "supernational") plan (Arno Penzias Nobel prize winner)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Had nature opted for a slightly different set of numbers, the world would be a very different place. Probably we would not be here to see it…Recent discoveries about the primeval cosmos oblige us to accept that the expanding universe has been set up in its motion with a cooperation of astonishing precision.: "The evidence is strong enough to acknowledge the existence of a conscious cosmic design." (Paul Davies).[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]If, for example, the gravitational force was a trillion times stronger, then the universe would be far smaller and its life history far shorter. An average star would have a mass a trillion times less than the sun and a life span of about one year. On the other hand, if gravity had been less powerful, no stars or galaxies would have ever formed. The other relationships and values are no less critical. If the strong force had been just slightly weaker, the only element that would be stable would be hydrogen. No other atoms could exist. If it had been slightly stronger in relation to electromagnetism, then an atomic nucleus consisting of only two protons would be a stable feature of the universe-which would mean there would be no hydrogen, and if any stars or galaxies evolved, they would be very different from the way they are. Clearly, if these various forces and constants did not have precisely the values they do, there would be no stars, no supernovae, no planets, no atoms, no life.( Michael Denton, molecular biologist)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“If the rate of expansion one second after the big bang had been smaller by even one part in a hundred thousand million million, the universe would have recollapsed before it ever reached its present size.” (Stephen Hawking)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Something else has to be behind things, somehow guiding them. And that, one might say, is a kind of mathematical proof of divinity." (Guy Marchie, American Science Writer)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]"If the world's finest minds can unravel only with difficulty the deeper workings of nature, how could it be supposed that those workings are merely a mindless accident, a product of blind chance?"(Paul David)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The Earth, with its atmosphere and oceans, its complex biosphere, its crust of relatively oxidised, silica rich, sedimentary, igneous, and metamorphic rocks overlaying [a magnesium silicate mantle and core] of metallic iron, with its ice caps, deserts, forests, tundra, jungles, grasslands, fresh-water lakes, coal beds, oil deposits, volcanoes, fumaroles, factories, automobiles, plants, animals, magnetic field, ionosphere, mid-ocean ridges, convincing mantle... is a system of stunning complexity."(J. S. Lewis, American Geologist)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]"That the radiation from the sun (and from many sequence stars) should be concentrated into a minuscule band of the electromagnetic spectrum which provides precisely the radiation required to maintain life on earth is very remarkable."(Ian Campbell, British Physicist)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]This, as most other of the Atheists' Arguments, proceeds from a deep Ignorance of Natural Philosophy; for if there were but half the sea that now is, there would also be but half the Quantity of Vapours, and consequently we could have but half as many Rivers as now there are to supply all the dry land we have at present, and half as much more; for the quantity of Vapours which are raised, as well as to the heat which raised them. The Wise Creator therefore did so prudently order it, that the seas should be large enough to supply Vapours sufficient for all the land."(John Ray, 18th century British Naturalist)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]"There is a mind and purpose behind the universe. There are hints of that divine presence in how abstract mathematics can penetrate the universe's secrets, which suggests that a rational mind created the world. Nature is fined tuned to allow life and consciousness to emerge."
(John Polkinghorne, British Physicist)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]"In its standard form, the big bang theory assumes that all parts of the universe began expanding simultaneously. But how could all the different parts of the universe synchronize the beginning of their expansion? Who gave the command?"(Andrei Linde).[/FONT]

 

[diamond lady]

[FONT=&quot]Bang, and there was order and perfection![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]We would like to explore the idea of creation from a purely logical standpoint using simple terminology without religious hype, emotional pre-convictions or superstitions.

[/FONT] [FONT=&quot]What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:[/FONT][FONT=&quot] A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile . . with no left over parts . . and the motor is running . .[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] Or what if his theory for how a chair is made is: An explosion occurs in a forest and the trees go flying into the air and then suddenly they combine with some flying cloth to make a beautiful chair . . . and then it lands in a furniture showroom complete with matching table and lamp . . .[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot] He further explains that: An earthquake in California's 'Silicon Valley' causes the computer chips and circuit boards and other various parts to fall out of their boxes and off of their shelves and just come in place together as they are rolling around on the floor and form the most advanced technical computers existing on the earth? . . .[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot] Or what of his 'Medicine Theory'? He now claims that: A gas leak in a pharmacy warehouse causes a terrific explosion. All the different chemicals and substances just smash into each other in exactly the correct amounts to produce a miracle drug which cures everything form cancer to heart and liver disease, old age and warts? . . . Wait . . . there's more to this one: It is all in one formula, packaged in the bottles with labels and ready to sell with no mess left on the floor? . . .[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] Now after all this exploding and excitement this 'scientist' tells you of a great place to relax and have something to eat. It is his favorite place and he calls it: "Burger Blast"![/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
He says:[/FONT][FONT=&quot] You just go in and sit down and suddenly a 'blast' from the kitchen occurs and immediately a burger lands right in front of you with all the trimmings.. just the way you like it complete with fries, a drink and even your favorite dessert? . . . AND . . . No one works at "Burger Blast", it just runs itself, automatically cleaning itself and as you leave it scans your billfold for a valid credit card and charges your bank account for what you have eaten? . . . [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Now the question is: "Are you really going to accept any of this as 'fact'?[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Of course not![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]We wouldn't believe a new car is made from flying junk; chairs don't fall down from exploding trees; earthquakes do not produce computers and blasting burgers don't rain down on us from above.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Question: So how come we don't challenge a theory of something coming from nothing and then colliding in the cosmos to make the universe? Is it because of its tremendous magnitude that we have so little comprehension about it, that we are willing to accept any theory from a few telescope 'peeping Toms' to tell us that it came from 'nothingness'? Or just some gases colliding and then. . . 'Poof'!? Instant Universe? How?[/FONT]

We can turn our attention to the earth and the heavens and make observations on our own without a 'genius' scientist telling us what we are seeing.

And then the idea that nothing is sustaining the heavens and the earth! - 'It just runs itself'? How?

Think about the stars, the sun, the moon and the countless solar systems and galaxies in the universe.

Who or What created them in the first place?

They continue to function and move with the utmost precision and accuracy.
Who does this? Who keeps them gliding along on their courses and orbits preordained for them?

He makes night merge into day and day merge into night, and He has made the sun and moon subservient, each one running until a specified time. That is Allah, your Lord.(Quran)

peace

 

[diamond lady]

Another thing is that ever since mans existence he had the need to worship a greater power a Greater being

True history people have always worshipped something
Worshiping is something natural to human beings; we can say that it is build inside them.
In Islam we call this the Fitrah(natural belief)

The fitrah is the natural inclination to worship God alone
Every human being is born with this natural belief, to worship God alone

The Messenger of God, may God bless him and give him peace, said: "Each child is born in a state of fitrah, but his parents make him a Jew or a Christian."

The fitrah connects you to God; it is that feeling that guides you to the truth
You may have heard people saying ‘’ am missing something in my life’’

That’s their fitrah calling them to God, guiding them to that which is good and pure.
Many people ignore their fitrah and as a result, their hearts become restless

Because their hearts are longing for their Creator and they want to worship their Creator in the correct way.

there is an empty space inside the heart which can only be filled with the presence of God It can never be filled with something else.

The desire for God is written in the human heart, if man desires God, then this can only be because God really exists

So that’s why when people ask me for advice in their spirituality I tell them to listen to their fitrah

When you find the truth, your soul will tell you
And if you’re not upon the truth it will tell you so.

''So set you your face towards the religion of pure Islamic Monotheism Hanifa
(worship none but God Alone) Allahs Fitrah (i.e. God’s Islamic Monotheism), with which He has created mankind. No change let there be in Khalqillah (i.e. the Religion of Allah Islamic Monotheism),that is the straight religion, but most of men know not''. (Quran)

In this verse, God Most High also identifies the fitrah with the way of the hanifa, which means the way of Pure Monotheism as practiced by Abraham, peace be upon him.

The religion of Abraham and all of the prophets, peace be upon them all, was one of the true fitrah, in which they worshipped Almight God alone without intermediaries or an incarnate "Savior[FONT=&quot] ‘[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]‘’[/FONT] “And who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham, the true in faith?” (Quran)

Now I would like to hear from you, proof to me that God doesn’t existed

Peace.

 

[In Between Man]

Now I would like to hear from you, proof to me that God doesn’t existed

Peace.

I have never known true love. Therefore I don't believe in it. If love doesn't exist, how can God exist. Are we not just biological beings and things like love, hate, humour, instincts just figments of our imagination? Just tricks of the brain that have use words like love to cover our own ignorance?:smile::smile::?:

 

[Scott Free]

Now I would like to hear from you, proof to me that God doesn’t existed

Why?

 

[diamond lady]

Because you are an atheist, an atheist is someone who doesn’t belief in the existence of God
So i want to know, what your proof for not believing in God is.
See i wouldn’t ask this question if you were an agnostic
But since you are 100% convinced of the non-existence of God; i want to know what your proof for that is.
What makes you so sure?

Ps. Existed=exist

 

[talloola]

No one has to prove what 'isn't', because it has never existed,
with the exception of those who 'believe' it exists.
The proof has to come from those who 'believe' god does exist.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

quindary is right , Two words "intelligent design"

Something that is perfectly designed, can not happen by mere change
Designed means having a designer

No, Quandary is wrong and so are you. The intelligent design argument is always the well known logical fallacy called begging the question: you assume it was designed in order to prove it was designed, and thereby prove the existence of a designer. Doesn't work, the premise of the argument assumes the conclusion is true. If you look a little more closely, particularly into biological systems, what you see is an absence of design. The human eyeball, for example, often offered as a corollary of intelligent design called irreducible complexity, is from a design perspective an incredibly sloppy piece of work. The light sensing cells point away from the light source so the optic nerve has to come through them to the front of the retina, creating a blind spot, and the blood vessels that supply those cells are in front of that, which is why diabetics sometimes go blind: the small blood vessels leak and create an opaque layer in front of the light sensors. In what what conceivable sense could you call that "perfectly designed?" Moreover, cephalopods (that's critters like the squid and octopus) have eyeballs very similar to humans' except that the light sensing cells face the light source and the nerves and blood vessels are behind them. What are we to make of that, that god likes cephalopods better?

The intelligent design argument is intellectually bankrupt.

 

[Scott Free]

What makes you so sure?

The big question is whether the religionists god exists, that is, the big sky hook, the all knowing father, etc, because that is what your proclaiming and arguing for; this is the god I deny.

All evidence points to religion being man made and the deity behind them is always the justification for deposing one morality for another. Morality then becomes an axiom based on the authority granted, not by proof but by faith. You believe god X and its commandments therefore it is true ie, god said so, so it is so. There is no argument that your morality is better than mine; your argument for your morality is that you believe in your god therefore the morality is true. You argue: if the god is true so must his commandments be. Your argument is based solely on violence.

The reality is that it doesn't matter if your god is true. You have no authority because I deny you and your god. If you insist then you are my enemy because you are imposing your liberty over mine. A liberty you suppose is greater because you suppose your god gave you the authority. You believe your liberty is more important than mine because you imagine your god is real.

There is no evidence your god is real. If your god is real show it to me. You can not do this because you are foolish and believe in silly things.

The only thing real is a community of self righteous and pompous religionists that think they have the right to tell everyone what to do because they believe in faeries, dragons and gods.

Insisting on faith based morality is a grievous violence. It is no coincidence that religion is responsible for most of the worlds conflicts.

It is therefore immoral for me to accept your god - it is a thing of evil and seeks violence.

I am a man and am interested only in the community of humans.

It is time to take the next step and leave childish things behind.

 

[diamond lady]

No, Quandary is wrong and so are you. The intelligent design argument is always the well known logical fallacy called begging the question: you assume it was designed in order to prove it was designed, and thereby prove the existence of a designer. Doesn't work, the premise of the argument assumes the conclusion is true. If you look a little more closely, particularly into biological systems, what you see is an absence of design. The human eyeball, for example, often offered as a corollary of intelligent design called irreducible complexity, is from a design perspective an incredibly sloppy piece of work. The light sensing cells point away from the light source so the optic nerve has to come through them to the front of the retina, creating a blind spot, and the blood vessels that supply those cells are in front of that, which is why diabetics sometimes go blind: the small blood vessels leak and create an opaque layer in front of the light sensors. In what what conceivable sense could you call that "perfectly designed?" Moreover, cephalopods (that's critters like the squid and octopus) have eyeballs very similar to humans' except that the light sensing cells face the light source and the nerves and blood vessels are behind them. What are we to make of that, that god likes cephalopods better? .

Here an entire book on the miracle of the eye
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/science/miracle_eye/miracle_eye_01.php
Enjoy reading it.

 

[L Gilbert]

That is sooooo old and feeble:

Isn’t the creation enough evidence for the existence of a Creator?

Of course it is. The sings are everywhere everything points to Him. You just have to look.

Well, an awful lot of people have looked and cannot find a designer's signature on trees, air, water, etc. Just because the universe baffles you is not sufficient grounds to lose your reason and blame some imaginary being for its "creation".

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=15-answers-to-creationist

 

[diamond lady]

Calm down it was just a question; don’t get yourself a heart attack!
You don’t know me but yet you seem to know exactly what I think, Kind of strange don’t you think?
I don’t want to impose anything on you; you are free to believe in whatever you want.

You have no authority because I deny you and your god

''Who does greater evil than he who is reminded of the signs of his lord, then turns away from them?(Quran)

There is no evidence your god is real. If your god is real show it to me. You can not do this because you are foolish and believe in silly things.
It is therefore immoral for me to accept your god - it is a thing of evil and seeks violence
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[FONT=&quot] ‘’And the servants of the Most Gracious are those who walk on the earth in humility, and when the ignorant address them, they say, "Peace!"(Quran)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]So I say unto you ‘’peace’’.[/FONT]

 

[darkbeaver]

Peace. We could allow that god exists and is a mysterious power. We could allow that god exists and is a benevolent power. We could allow that the mysterious benevolent god exists and we have an instruction manual which permits assembly and operation. Horse****, there is no god, there is only the one which dosen't care about monkeys anymore or less than bacteria. Adherants to the various god cults will have to be controlled someday . Thier buggering up the development of youth slowing civilization and consumming supplies better used by parsnips and radishes. They are responsible for crime war and greed. Get rid of them all.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Here an entire book on the miracle of the eye
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/science/miracle_eye/miracle_eye_01.php
Enjoy reading it.

I got as far as this sentence and quit: " Rejecting this clear truth, the theory of evolution, provides "coincidence" as its answer to this question." That's such an abysmally ignorant and stupid claim that I'm confident it's not worth reading any more. You have to understand nothing about evolution to make a statement like that, and it's clear that the book will consist of straw man arguments and irreducible complexity arguments, both of which are bankrupt. The book is crap. Try Richard Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker.

 

[tracy]

I'm not religious at all. I don't know if there's a God, but I lean towards no. I definitely do not believe in the Bible and I don't believe in the story of Jesus. It just doesn't ring true to me, I've seen to many scared pregnant young girls claiming to be virgins in my work. That said, why does it matter if it's true or not if it brings comfort to some? I work in a catholic hospital and last week was asked by a nun to pray with her and a family over a baby's bedside. I'm close to an atheist, but I prayed with them anyways (well, I did what I assume praying is which is to just bow my head and hope all the nuns prayers would come true). I have no problem doing it because if it gives them comfort, then I think that's enough. I realize religion causes all sorts of problems, but vilifying it without acknowledging the comfort it provides to some believers isn't fair. I think ego plays a large part in atheists pushing their views on others, just like it does for Christians pushing their beliefs.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

...why does it matter if it's true or not if it brings comfort to some?

Apart from the fact that if it's not true the comfort it offers is false, it's because of all the things people do using it as a rationalization and justification.

 

[darkbeaver]

I'm not religious at all. I don't know if there's a God, but I lean towards no. I definitely do not believe in the Bible and I don't believe in the story of Jesus. It just doesn't ring true to me, I've seen to many scared pregnant young girls claiming to be virgins in my work. That said, why does it matter if it's true or not if it brings comfort to some? I work in a catholic hospital and last week was asked by a nun to pray with her and a family over a baby's bedside. I'm close to an atheist, but I prayed with them anyways (well, I did what I assume praying is which is to just bow my head and hope all the nuns prayers would come true). I have no problem doing it because if it gives them comfort, then I think that's enough. I realize religion causes all sorts of problems, but vilifying it without acknowledging the comfort it provides to some believers isn't fair. I think ego plays a large part in atheists pushing their views on others, just like it does for Christians pushing their beliefs.

I can empathize with your empathy for the prayer and the kindness and consideration you showed those people. Your natural human goodness is denied by them though , they will never accept kindness in others as a spontaneous human trait but rather will always assign those atributes to god alone. It is afterall the tolerance and inclusion of the secular world that continues to foster the damageing superstitions and thier agents. This is the catch 22 that rational humanity faces in trying to heal the human divisions caused and fed upon by the religionists for all of recorded history. Someday we must insist that good and god are not the same thing or our children will suffer the same as we do and our ancestors did.

 

[tracy]

Apart from the fact that if it's not true the comfort it offers is false, it's because of all the things people do using it as a rationalization and justification.

Who says you have to have "true" comfort? I'm going to a baby's funeral tomorrow. If his parents feel better thinking he's with God rather than that he simply ceased to exist and his body will decay over time, I don't see the harm. Their belief in God will help them cope with heart wrenching grief. What other people do with their faith doesn't cancel that out. Those are two separate things, just as atheists doing wrong (Hi Marxism...) doesn't make atheism a bad thing for me to believe in (or not believe in, you know what I mean).


Plus, maybe you don't have to believe in the prayer or religion itself to be comforted by it. I take someone praying for me as their way of expressing they care for me. It's their caring that provides me with comfort. That's real whether their God is or not and it's a gift I try to accept with grace and humbleness.

 

[tracy]

they will never accept kindness in others as a spontaneous human trait but rather will always assign those atributes to god alone.

You're assuming things about them that just aren't true. They've thanked practically every member of our staff and never once attributed our kindness to religion or God. Even if they did though, I don't see the big problem. If they think I'm being nice because God made me that way, where's the harm? My ego doesn't require I get credit for being nice.

I used to be almost militant in my distaste of religion. As I've met more religious people, that view has changed. Usually my work has good outcomes. Sick babies get better and go home... but sometimes it doesn't work that way or the path to their going home is filled with moments of heartbreak or they can look forwards to a lifetime of disability. I see people who need comfort as desperately as they need air to breathe. Some people get it from talking to friends, family, crying, being hugged, listened to, etc. Some get it from prayer or from their religious community. I don't think that nun's prayer has any supernatural power to help the baby. I do think that it was valuable if only that it let the parents know someone cared about them and their child. The comfort they get from that is real whether there is a God listenning on the other end or not.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Who says you have to have "true" comfort?

For myself at least, I do. I certainly prefer not to fool myself, or let others fool me, if I can avoid it, and sometimes the sorry fact of life is that there is no true comfort.

Their belief in God will help them cope with heart wrenching grief. What other people do with their faith doesn't cancel that out.

I didn't suggest it does, though I find it quite mysterious how people faced with the death of a child can find comfort in believing in a being who could have prevented it, and was no doubt earnestly entreated to do so if there was any warning, but chose not to. But that's really beside the point, which is that in my view religion does more harm than good on balance.

... just as atheists doing wrong (Hi Marxism...)

Aw jeez, not that can of worms again. People like Stalin didn't do wrong because they were atheists, that's quite incidental to what drove them. You've got cause and effect in the wrong order there, but this isn't the thread to discuss that in.