Should the Green party be allowed in national leaders debates?

Twig

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They let Bloc and Bloc doesn't even field a candidate outside Quebec....

Exactly. It's that or can all the debates and get on with the election. I wonder how many undecideds there really are out there. Does anyone really believe that all the ads and campaigning will really sway peoples votes. We already know their track records there is nothing any of them can say to change my mind.
 

Avro

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The Greens are out, and that is outrageous.

The three major parties ALL (yes, that includes Dion and Layton) did not want her in......of course, Dion and Layon are busily blaming Harper.....but IMHO they share equal blame.

I watched Layton Sunday as a CBC reporter asked him four (that's 4) times whether Elizabeth May should be included......his evasion was the same every time, "I want to debate Harper". He refused to directly answer the question, which was answer enough.

An outrage.

Idiots all.

Holy crap, that is some beautiful spin there Colpy, you should write for the Sun or Post. Take something that is everybody's fault and blame the NDP and Liberals.....wow.

New lows for an intelectual elite such as yourself:lol:
 

Colpy

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Holy crap, that is some beautiful spin there Colpy, you should write for the Sun or Post. Take something that is everybody's fault and blame the NDP and Liberals.....wow.

New lows for an intelectual elite such as yourself:lol:

Hmmmmm....

I hope you have signed up for that reading comprehension course Avro.....because you aren't really doing well at the moment.

Try again....I said

The three major parties ALL (yes, that includes Dion and Layton) did not want her in......of course, Dion and Layon are busily blaming Harper.....but IMHO they share equal blame.

I watched Layton Sunday as a CBC reporter asked him four (that's 4) times whether Elizabeth May should be included......his evasion was the same every time, "I want to debate Harper". He refused to directly answer the question, which was answer enough.

An outrage.

Idiots all.

Please note I have put the relevant sections in boldface to try and help you out...........
 

Colpy

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That is an assumption on your part and does not make it truth. I'd like to debate Harper too....

HA!

That's funny.

Believe me Lone Wolf......all he had to do was say he wanted her in, but he flatly refused to answer.......the execs that kept her out stated that the leaders of the three major parties did NOT want her in, that includes Layton.

Jack doesn't want Elizabeth May stealing votes... :)
 

Zzarchov

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The Green party is (or used to be) pretty pro-business. Harper would be losing the more votes.
 

lone wolf

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HA!

That's funny.

Believe me Lone Wolf......all he had to do was say he wanted her in, but he flatly refused to answer.......the execs that kept her out stated that the leaders of the three major parties did NOT want her in, that includes Layton.

Jack doesn't want Elizabeth May stealing votes... :)

Unless they actually said those words, it is assumption on your part and wouldn't stand up in Court....
 

Colpy

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Unless they actually said those words, it is assumption on your part and wouldn't stand up in Court....

Fortunately, this isn't court.........and BTW, the execs did say the leaders of the three major parties did not want her in..........that would be CPC, Liberals, and the NDP........
 

Colpy

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It isn't the Green Party they are refusing to debate. It is Elizabeth May herself as she is Dion's candidate for Central Nova.

Yeah....and she can't shut up......although she is obviously bright, works without a script, speaks quite well.

I do think it is outrageous they won't allow her in......and that goes for all of them, Harper, Dion, Layton.
 

Avro

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Hmmmmm....

I hope you have signed up for that reading comprehension course Avro.....because you aren't really doing well at the moment.

Try again....I said



Please note I have put the relevant sections in boldface to try and help you out...........

Oh I know what you said old boy, it's wonderful spin, blame Harper but don't blame him.

All three parties and yes that includes Dion and Layton, if you had been genuine Colpy you would have said Harper instead of the other two jerks.

Like I said, you should write for the Post or Sun instead of sitting around collecting a pension.

You drip with bias and anybody with half a brain can see it even when you think you are being fair.

I would think that an intellectual elite like yourself would get it.....apparantly not.:lol:

You can't even figure out what hypocrisy is.:lol:
 

Spocq

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I think the Green Party should have a seat at the debates they had about 1 million votes last time I heard. I believe they fear the truth that will be brought to the table if they allow the Green Party to be in the debate.
 

Risus

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The Greens are out, and that is outrageous.

The three major parties ALL (yes, that includes Dion and Layton) did not want her in......of course, Dion and Layon are busily blaming Harper.....but IMHO they share equal blame.

I watched Layton Sunday as a CBC reporter asked him four (that's 4) times whether Elizabeth May should be included......his evasion was the same every time, "I want to debate Harper". He refused to directly answer the question, which was answer enough.

An outrage.

Idiots all.

Yes, Idiot layton shows his mentality....
 

Walter

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I thought they should let her in the debate, too, until I heard the reason given by the Cons; the Liberals and the Greens have a pact not to run a candidate in each others' leaders' ridings, so the Cons said we don't need two Liberal parties represented at the debates.
 

Zzarchov

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It isn't the Green Party they are refusing to debate. It is Elizabeth May herself as she is Dion's candidate for Central Nova.

Those agreements between parties are common, its never booted other major parties from the airwaves before.

Regardless of political reasoning. The Greens have more of a right to be there than the bloq. They run country wide and are polling higher.
 

Tonington

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I thought they should let her in the debate, too, until I heard the reason given by the Cons; the Liberals and the Greens have a pact not to run a candidate in each others' leaders' ridings, so the Cons said we don't need two Liberal parties represented at the debates.

What brilliant deductive reasoning! Not running in an opponents riding is proof of a facsimile platform! :roll:

Geez, what were your reasons to support May in the debates if that's what changed your mind?
 

Colpy

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Turns out I have done the Liberals a disservice, hard as that is to believe.

Dion wanted May in the debates.

It was Harper, Layton and the Bloq that wanted her kept out.

Harper believes she is simply a shill for the Liberals, as they are not running anyone against her in Nova Scotia, she has endorsed Dion as PM, and she has endorsed the Liberal candidate running against Jim Flaherty. I think Layton agrees (although I'm not sure) and, I believe, the Greens are much more of a threat to the NDP than to the CPC.

I do not agree with Harper, I think she deserves a place...........although there has always been a tradition that any new party had to have one elected MP in the House before they were included..........and I can see his point.
 

YoungJoonKim

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I find Bloc more ridiculous than Conservative and THEY are allowed in the debate. Not funny. No justice whatsoever. Just for exclusion of Green Party from the debate, my vote goes to the Green People. Roar
 

Zzarchov

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The NDP don't want her eroding their votes, its the same reasons the Liberals don't like the NDP.