Is there proof of life after death

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What proof do you want to the existence of the spiritual world of souls?

Taking into consideration, that God concealed such world from our sights, like that He concealed the existence of the bacteria on our skins and in our bowels which will be troublesome to us if we see all that with our eyes.

So it is some wisdom that He concealed such world of souls from our sight; see that most people are afraid from the awareness of such a world.

E.g. when your child asked you about such souls, what did you and I answer him: "There is nothing here my boy, don't be afraid!"

See that none has responded to my reply on page 2: July 11th, 2008, 01:29 AM which I followed by a complement on page 4:July 16th, 2008, 05:01 PM.

Moreover, the link, that quandary121 gave, is valuable http://www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/


eanassir
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eanassir

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In these commercial times some would ask, is there life before death?:smile:


In these commercial times, in the past and the future all people believe in the life before death, and cling to it and bite on it with their teeth.:lol:
 

eanassir

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Ghost Photographs

http://www.ghostresearch.org/ghostpics/

if there is such things as ghosts then there must be life after death ...!!!!


This is an excellent link.

Some comments on these photographs of spirits and souls:

  • Some photos of spirits and souls or ghosts will appear better if the light is dim or in complete darkness; because the strong light will overwhelm the image of the soul, and it will disappear from sight.
  • It appears that the head and the upper part of the ghost or soul will appear more clearly, and it may be that the upper part of the soul will emit some light. This has been noticed by many people, that when they one time or another they may see the face and the upper part of the body; like I saw the upper part of the soul of Abu abd-Allah in "My vision of Jesus Christ" - refer to this thread in this spiritual forum of the Canadian Content.
  • There are other forms of other beings or other spiritual structures, not essentially human souls, which may appear in the photograph: like genies (or demons) and some broken branches of some ethereal (or spiritual) trees, i.e. the spirits of the dead trees, because even the tree has a spirit.



 
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In these commercial times, in the past and the future all people believe in the life before death, and cling to it and bite on it with their teeth.:lol:

True, but the quality of life has suffered for so many of us despite the constant assurances by our culture that it has vastly improved. I find very little hard evidence to support that commonly passed bit of misinformation. By example I'll suggest that today we control only a fraction of the time we once had at our disposal, the rest is contracted away to the banks or consumned by useless soothing diversions. As you've mentioned for the most part we tend to cling to life with desperation instead of joy. It's is a mistake to long after passage to the sweet hereafter if we've soiled our nest here in the garden. Time is priceless it 's value increases with the passage of every minute eh.
 

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This is an excellent link.

Some comments on these photographs of spirits and souls:
  • Some photos of spirits and souls or ghosts will appear better if the light is dim or in complete darkness; because the strong light will overwhelm the image of the soul.
  • It appears that the head and the upper part of the ghost or soul will appear more clearly, and it may be that the upper part of the soul will emit some light.
  • There are other forms, not essentially human souls, which may appear in the photograph: like genies (or demons) and some broken branches of some ethereal (or spiritual) trees, i.e. the spirits of the dead trees, because even the tree has a spirit.

You always tell such good stories ea Nassir. Trees will be the death of me. They've already tried. As I weaken with age and disease they watch for a chance, I'v a price on my head put there by the forest for unspeakable crimes against the innocent green.
 

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True, but the quality of life has suffered for so many of us despite the constant assurances by our culture that it has vastly improved. I find very little hard evidence to support that commonly passed bit of misinformation. By example I'll suggest that today we control only a fraction of the time we once had at our disposal, the rest is contracted away to the banks or consumned by useless soothing diversions. As you've mentioned for the most part we tend to cling to life with desperation instead of joy. It's is a mistake to long after passage to the sweet hereafter if we've soiled our nest here in the garden. Time is priceless it 's value increases with the passage of every minute eh.

So the minutes are valuable, and man regrets for the passing of every minute, every hour and every day; but which is more worthy: isn't it to work for the next life: that is the true future, where there will not be banks to lend and no disease to consume; of course if man is successful.
Therefore, as does the student study to secure his future, as does the worker work hard in his youth to secure his future in his elderly; the wise man will work to secure for himself an everlasting and prosperous future. That's the key word of all the problem.
 

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You always tell such good stories ea Nassir. Trees will be the death of me. They've already tried. As I weaken with age and disease they watch for a chance, I'v a price on my head put there by the forest for unspeakable crimes against the innocent green.


What's the matter with you uncle Dark;-). I know you are good at commerce, so calculate it correctly and be successful with God, the Lord of this World and the next world of souls :) the Hereafter)
 

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What's the matter with you uncle Dark;-). I know you are good at commerce, so calculate it correctly and be successful with God, the Lord of this World and the next world of souls :) the Hereafter)

That is certainly sound advice, but I ask you isn't it written, "as in heaven so shall it be on earth" I'll follow that older advice and seek to effect the good works here while I'm quick because to wait would mean exclusion from heaven for a slothfull indugent existence among the living when we have clear and multiple direction from the profits to make our lives work spreading joy and beauty and brotherhood universaly all the days of our lives. Don't wait for death you have to learn while you're here or you won't get there.:smile:
 

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people have souls. ur living body may die, but ur soul will live on

Do you have any evidence of that? What makes you so sure? If you have a soul what is it made of? Why does it only go somewhere when you die? If your body is dead wouldn't your soul also be dead? If not then why not? Also if not could you show me a picture of your soul - any soul? I would love to see a picture of one. I know what a heart and liver look like. Where in the body is the soul? Can I find a picture of one in Greys Anatomy? If not, why not?

I don't know... I have my doubts.
 

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Weighing the soul
Philosophers have long argued over whether the soul, if it exists, is a material substance or not.
In the early 1900s, the America doctor Duncan MacDougall decided to try to find out by putting patients dying from tuberculosis - bed and all - on a set of scales and watching to see whether their weight dropped suddenly when they died. Staggeringly, it did, in four out of the six patients that he studied, with an average weight change of 21 grams - about as much as a slice of bread.
 

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Weighing the soul
Philosophers have long argued over whether the soul, if it exists, is a material substance or not.
In the early 1900s, the America doctor Duncan MacDougall decided to try to find out by putting patients dying from tuberculosis - bed and all - on a set of scales and watching to see whether their weight dropped suddenly when they died. Staggeringly, it did, in four out of the six patients that he studied, with an average weight change of 21 grams - about as much as a slice of bread.

"This is an excellent example of where pseudoscience and belief go wrong, on a variety of levels. Let us start with MacDougall's claim itself: it turns out that his data were decidedly unreliable by any decent scientific standard. Not only was the experiment never repeated (by either MaDougall or anyone else), but his own notes (published in American Medicine in March 1907) show that of the six data points, two had to be discarded as “of no value”; two recorded a weight drop, followed by additional losses later on (was the soul leaving bit by bit?); one showed a reversal of the loss, then another loss (the soul couldn't make up its mind, leaving, re-entering, then leaving for good); and only one case actually constitutes the basis of the legendary estimate of ¾ of an ounce. With data like these, it's a miracle the paper got published in the first place.

Second, as was pointed out immediately by Dr. Augustus P. Clarke in a rebuttal also published in American Medicine, MacDougall failed to consider another obvious hypothesis: that the weight loss (assuming it was real) was due to evaporation caused by the sudden rise in body temperature that occurs when the blood circulation stops and the blood can no longer be air-cooled by the lungs. This also elegantly explains why the dogs showed no weight loss: as is well known, they cool themselves by panting, not sweating like humans do.

Third, MacDougall's allegedly inescapable conclusion (“How other shall we explain it?”) did not derive from any theory of the soul, but was simply arrived at by excluding a small number of other possibilities. In other words, the soul “explanation” won by default, without having to go through the onerous process of positive confirmation. This is yet another version of the “god-of-the-gaps” argument so in vogue among the faithful, and that constitutes the backbone – such as it is – of Intelligent Design “theory.”

But perhaps most damning of all is the very idea that the soul has weight. Whatever it is, the soul since Plato's time has been understood as immaterial, i.e. without mass and, therefore, weightless. Obviously, this in turn raises all the classic problems of dualism: how can something immaterial interact with a material world? How can ghosts walk through walls and yet “see” things or make noises? How can the mind direct our actions – that famous conundrum that stymied Descartes – if it is an incorporeal “substance” (itself an oxymoron)?"

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