Is there proof of life after death

[eanassir]

we must make the best of it that we possibly can, love each other, care for each other, respect each other, help each other, try to make a positive difference, and hope that when we're gone people will remember us fondly

All this is good if you do all that for the sake of God alone, and in His way and for His love; but if not it will be useless, even if you expend the wealth of Koran (who was an opponent of Moses).

But if the work is for God alone, He will reward you: in this World 10 folds, and in the next world (or the Hereafter or the afterlife) He will reward you 700 folds and He may give more out of His surplus.

I tell you the truth: you read better than some other members here like taloola: she does not read anything of what I say; she is fanatic to her atheism, and if she goes on as such she will be rewarded with Hell in the Hereafter.

But eventhough you read, but you do not try to understand deeply many of the things here: which will be to your advantage, to be with God alone.

Better than that "people will say good about you or me or anyone else"; let us hope God be pleased with us, which is more worthy, and man may have a better fame among people and among the angels and the people of Paradise; that is when you defend God and His religion.

As in the aya 35: 10​

إِلَيْهِ يَصْعَدُ الْكَلِمُ الطَّيِّبُ وَالْعَمَلُ الصَّالِحُ يَرْفَعُهُ ..الخ​

The explanation:​

( To Him [in heaven] good words go up, and He takes up to Him [in heaven] the righteous deed.)

See more details in the subject of to defend God just after
http://man-after-death.site.io/3.htm#An_Imaginary_Drawing_of_an_ethereal_Date-palm



eanassir
http://man-after-death.site.io​

 

[eanassir]

I think you are all 'just' afraid to admit that you die just like all of the other alive critters
on this earth.

The opposite is true; death may be easy, but what is after death: this what frightens them, and they want to disregard or neglect it.

Some of your stories are amazing though, good for hollywood.

The story cited here http://man-after-death.site.io/#Was_It_Death_or_Fainting_
is a true story, and good for Hollywood, as have you said, but it is a copyright.

eanassir
http://man-after-death.site.io​

 

[Dexter Sinister]

All this is good if you do all that for the sake of God alone,...

No, I do it for the sake of the quality of my life and the lives of people I care about. God has no place in my life. I know of no reason to think he exists at all--he certainly hasn't given me any--and plenty of reasons to think he's purely a human invention with no reality outside the realm of ideas. He's no more real to me than Zeus or Osiris or any of the thousands of other supernatural agencies human imagination has invented.

 

[darkbeaver]

you all have great imaginations about another life after the one you are living, good
for making movies I guess.
The only thing left from any of you will be what you have distributed around this earth,
in the way of 'children'. They will live on, but you will be gone.
You won't be surprised to find out that everything you imagined here on earth while
you were alive didn't come to pass, cause you will be 'deader than a doornail'.
You'll be good for the earth though, we all need to do our share of fertilizing, so maybe
you will help grow green bushes and trees, and a green lawn.
While you are spending so much energy thinking about the afterlife, don't forget to pay
attention to whats happening right here on this earth, cause that's it folks, don't know
why others can't see how great it is to be alive, instead of spending so much of your energy looking to what happens after you are dead.
I think you are all 'just' afraid to admit that you die just like all of the other alive critters
on this earth.
Some of your stories are amazing though, good for hollywood.

I'm not growing a lawn I hate lawns I'll grow flowers and trees but I am not growing a lawn.

 

[darkbeaver]

The religion is the doctrine and acts of obedience or rites.
Therefore, no one can be without any religion.

There is the religion of the atheism, the idolatry, the polytheism, the association with God –– on the other hand there is the religion of God: the monotheism: that God is One without associate or equal or son or daughters or wife or any patron.

It is right that God has bestowed on people every grace – in the present time – and that the simple farmer or peasant may have a refrigerator, air-conditioner, car …etc that even the kings in the past did not own.

But the essential needs of man everywhere and everytime are the same; so that if you study the Pharaonic civilization in the ancient Egypt, you will find them have a large number of furniture and tools that were supposed to let them live a good life, and were some inventions and advances according to their time.

Therefore, it is not the wealth, the dress, the furniture and other tools that man used in his Worldly life are the important; but the important thing is his doctrine in God as One without associate and his belief in all the apostles and all the heavenly books in addition to his righteous work that will let man prosper in his inevitably coming next world of souls following death.

This is in the Quran 42: 36​

فَما أوتِيتُمْ مِنْ شَيءٍ فَمَتاعُ الحَياةِ الدُّنْيا ، و ما عِنْدَ اللهِ خَيْرٌ و أبْقَى لِلّذِينَ آمَنُوا و على ربِّهِمْ يَتَوَكّلُون .​

The explanation: ( Whatever [material] thing you [people] have been given, is only a [transient] comfort for the life of the World, but the [ethereal] that God has, is better and more lasting for those who believe and put their trust in their Lord.)


eanassir
http://man-after-death.site.io​

God as one without associate, this is what I believe about god. Our peerless Lady Mother.

 

[quandary121]

So, your answer to my question is, 'it is invisible'. Sorry, I'm not embracing that
story.
The soul is just another word that is connected to religious beliefs, nothing real
or proven to be an actual part of the body.
If you can prove to me that the soul actual exists, I will listen, and when I say prove,
I don't mean what you 'believe' to be true.

If you can prove to me that the soul actual exists

IS LIKE SAYING SHOW ME A GHOST AND I WILL BELIEVE IN GHOSTS...????
IF THERE COULD BE PROOF OF THE SOUL IN THE PHISICAL SENCE OF THE WORD THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALLREADY..
IN ANSWER TO THIS I WOULD SAY

DO YOU NEED PROOF OF THE SOUL...?? DO YOU NEED A TORCH TO SEE THE SUN...???

opps sorry talloola caps lock was on ,did not mean to have it on just happen before i noticed soz :smile::smile::smile:

 

[talloola]

69 years taloola?

We say here "your foot is in the grave" – although the lifespan is according to God's decree.
That is a very old saying, and shouldn't be said now till someone is over 90, life has
changed a great deal, as, when I was a little girl 69 would have been considered old,
my grandparents for instance, were old at that age, but not my parents, and certainly
not me.​

If things proved opposite to what you say, and when you die (as will all of us die), then you will find that there is another life of souls; and the soul is the true man, what will your fate be then, when you will discover that only the body will become dust?
I am very confident that will not happen, there is no reason for me to think that way at
all, I am comfortable with my experiences and what I see to be the path we all take.
The true man/woman is on our earth. It's too bad we don't all appreciate and see that.
But, each to his/her own, that is life, we are not all the same.
​

 

[talloola]

IS LIKE SAYING SHOW ME A GHOST AND I WILL BELIEVE IN GHOSTS...????
no such thing as ghosts, great stories though.

IF THERE COULD BE PROOF OF THE SOUL IN THE PHISICAL SENCE OF THE WORD THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALLREADY..
IN ANSWER TO THIS I WOULD SAY

DO YOU NEED PROOF OF THE SOUL...?? DO YOU NEED A TORCH TO SEE THE SUN...???
The sun can been seen with our naked eye, it is real. Scientists can show us many
facts about the sun.

 

[talloola]

I'm not growing a lawn I hate lawns I'll grow flowers and trees but I am not growing a lawn.

OK, lawns are going out of style anyway.;-)

 

[talloola]

Religion was once needed by people to deliver them from miserable drudgery that was life. Today in North America and Europe, people live better than Earls did. They live longer, eat better, have better cloths, warmer homes, have better entertainment etc... Peasants in England at one time would bury themselves when they heard invaders were coming to save the trouble for those that would soon murder them. In other words, life really really sucked, and not just for the poor but for everyone. Today even the poor in richer nations live better than kings and earls did. Back then all people had to live for was that they would be delivered from their daily horror and populate a realm called heaven one day. Things have changed, however, and now that myth isn't needed anymore. Daily life has become so much easier (thanks to technology and social change) that empty promises and childish fantasies aren't needed. We can live for today and toward a better future. We just need a gestalt shift away from thinking drudgery is part of life or most peoples or anyones. A shift away from economics that run on and exploit human misery. I think maybe our next civilization will make that leap if there are any of us left around.

Very sensible, very real, we are so aware now, so learned, so much more advanced than
those of long long ago, who seemed to have been taken advantage of by, the aggressive and mean and also non learned. We have found our way to more equality, and our
scientists have shown us so much, which makes us understand our surroundings, we know that lightening isn't some message from some god, etc. Everything that is happening on
our earth is 'our' doing, we are responsible for the good and the bad, and we understand
that now, there is no outside force controlling us, (well, maybe weather).
Much more to come as the green age matures and the selfish have to back off, and
the powerful are pushed away, and the masses step forward. We don't have to answer
to anything else but ourselves, and be responsible for caring for our 'home', the earth.
When we die we are completely gone, but we leave behind wonderful offspring and/or
other family, who will carry on after us, with our blood in the veins, that is our afterlife,
living in our children and family.

 

[scratch]

Very sensible, very real, we are so aware now, so learned, so much more advanced than
those of long long ago, who seemed to have been taken advantage of by, the aggressive and mean and also non learned. We have found our way to more equality, and our
scientists have shown us so much, which makes us understand our surroundings, we know that lightening isn't some message from some god, etc. Everything that is happening on
our earth is 'our' doing, we are responsible for the good and the bad, and we understand
that now, there is no outside force controlling us, (well, maybe weather).
Much more to come as the green age matures and the selfish have to back off, and
the powerful are pushed away, and the masses step forward. We don't have to answer
to anything else but ourselves, and be responsible for caring for our 'home', the earth.
When we die we are completely gone, but we leave behind wonderful offspring and/or
other family, who will carry on after us, with our blood in the veins, that is our afterlife,
living in our children and family.

Your view/take on this subject is the best explanation that I have yet to see and I wholly agree with it. I applaud you.
M.

 

[quandary121]

IS LIKE SAYING SHOW ME A GHOST AND I WILL BELIEVE IN GHOSTS...????
no such thing as ghosts, great stories though.

IF THERE COULD BE PROOF OF THE SOUL IN THE PHISICAL SENCE OF THE WORD THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALLREADY..
IN ANSWER TO THIS I WOULD SAY

DO YOU NEED PROOF OF THE SOUL...?? DO YOU NEED A TORCH TO SEE THE SUN...???
The sun can been seen with our naked eye, it is real. Scientists can show us many
facts about the sun.

The bible can show you many facts about god ,science is not actually about proving things,right it can only confirm preconcived ideas, how many times has science been proved wrong,do you believe that there was indeed a flood that was talked about in genesis

 

[eanassir]

--he certainly hasn't given me any--

Then who gave to man the scientific license? And who answered him when he was in need? And who gave to him a good salary when he requested Him? And who gave to him the wife that is suitable for him? And who gave to him the children when he desired that? And who averts from him the complications of the hypertension? And who wards off from him every harm? And who offered to him the happiness? And who educated him by giving to him all means of the knowledge and endowed him with the intelligence?​

The provision of the Hereafter come directly, according to man's work; but the grace of God – during this Worldly life – comes in indirect way; man goes to work and so he will get his provision; and if he is aware, this will be so obvious to him; but he is almost unaware. He requested all that during all the stages of his life, but he now denies and has forgotten.​

E.g. this is a true tale:
A retired man; he was a military officer, then retired; life had become very hard for him; there was much general distress for all people; he was a military officer – as did I say – he did not know any career to earn sufficient outcome; the salary was insufficient; what shall he do? He went outside to the street, in the early evening; the streets were dark; the electric power was off [all the electricity in the country was off because of the transgression of the foreigners]; he went and slept on the lane of the street; he started to talk to his Lord: the Creator of everything, but secretly: within himself, no one heard him: he said: "Lord, my God; what shall I do; I have a family; the conditions are so difficult now, and You are the All-Knowing."
I know this man, who told me that he had then some inspiration [as if someone speaking to him]: What do you want?
The man said: "My Lord knows better than I do."
"But you have to state what you want!"
[Man has to state or specify his request; because he has to be grateful to God for His grace, and this will be against him if he denies and are ungrateful; He will say to him: I gave you, but were ungrateful.]​

This is in the Quran 2: 186​

وَإِذَا سَأَلَكَ عِبَادِي عَنِّي فَإِنِّي قَرِيبٌ أُجِيبُ دَعْوَةَ الدَّاعِ إِذَا دَعَانِ فَلْيَسْتَجِيبُواْ لِي وَلْيُؤْمِنُواْ بِي لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْشُدُونَ​

The explanation:
(And when My servants ask you [Mohammed] concerning Me, then, surely, I am Near;​

I answer the prayer's prayer when he prays to Me. ​

So let them seek My answer [by being obedient to Me], ​

and let them believe in Me [and My Holy Names]; ​

so that they may be led aright.)​

The man said: "I want to repair my house; I want a car: a Toyota Super saloon the model of that year; I want 50,000 dinars to be a pocket money."​

A meanwhile, a tractor stopped near to him, the driver shouted at him: "Are you dwelling here?"
The man said: "This does not concern you."
The driver said: "I want to benefit you."
The man said: "How is that?"
The driver said: "These are some substances: cement blocks I give you, and some people will come and buy from you, and next day evening, I shall come and recompense you."​

So next day these substances were sold, this went on every day; and then another one then came some days later and gave him some other elements of building in the same manner; so this man within few weeks he was able to repair his house, then later he bought his desired car, then he had his pocket full of this 50,000 dinars; he said: I expend of it, and it will not finish.​

I knew this man in a nearby quarter, and both of us met together in the hospital: his son and my son had an urgent appendicectomy the same day.​

 

[eanassir]

Your view/take on this subject is the best explanation that I have yet to see and I wholly agree with it. I applaud you.
M.

So you applaud each other.
Prophet Abraham said to his people as in the Quran 29: 25​

وَقَالَ إِنَّمَا اتَّخَذْتُم مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ أَوْثَانًا مَّوَدَّةَ بَيْنِكُمْ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا ثُمَّ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يَكْفُرُ بَعْضُكُم بِبَعْضٍ وَيَلْعَنُ بَعْضُكُم بَعْضًا وَمَأْوَاكُمُ النَّارُ وَمَا لَكُم مِّن نَّاصِرِينَ​

The explanation:
(And [Abraham] said [to his people]: "You only take idols [to worship] apart from God, [in order] to have friendship among yourselves in the Worldly life;
but on the Judgment Day you will deny one another and you will curse one another;
your resort will be [into] the fire, and you will not have any helper [to save you from God's punishment.]")​

 

[quandary121]

IS LIKE SAYING SHOW ME A GHOST AND I WILL BELIEVE IN GHOSTS...????
no such thing as ghosts, great stories though.

IF THERE COULD BE PROOF OF THE SOUL IN THE PHISICAL SENCE OF THE WORD THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALLREADY..
IN ANSWER TO THIS I WOULD SAY

DO YOU NEED PROOF OF THE SOUL...?? DO YOU NEED A TORCH TO SEE THE SUN...???
The sun can been seen with our naked eye, it is real. Scientists can show us many
facts about the sun.

no such thing as ghosts, great stories though.

Are you sure about this are you absolutely sure,according to you science has the answer to all ,well science has proved that paranormal experiences exist,and have documented them ...?

 

[darkbeaver]

Death is life, life is death, the wheel, you die for life, you kill for life, without death you are nothing. You can miss both in a blinking eye.You have to live to appreciate death and you have to die to enhance life.:smile:

 

[quandary121]

Death is life, life is death, the wheel, you die for life, you kill for life, without death you are nothing. You can miss both in a blinking eye.You have to live to appreciate death and you have to die to enhance life.:smile:

i agree with all of that and more :smile:

 

[eanassir]

do you believe that there was indeed a flood that was talked about in genesis

Yes, there was the flood in which the people of Noah were drowned; the flood included one country of the earth: Iraq where Noah was dwelling in the city now called Ain Siphny, which means the water fountain from where the Ark of Noah set on. This city is situated near Mosul (Nineveh).
Noah took with him in the Ark: his sons and their wives, excepting Canaan his grandson who were drowned with the rest of the people. Nooh also took with him one pair (male and female) of the cattle, the poultry and the riding-animals.)
In the vicinity of this city was a large amount of tar, [in the city now called Quayyara,] which he used to paint the Ark, so that no water may intrude in the Ark.

In some excavations, they saw some layers of alluvium, then some town remnants, then another layer of alluvium.

 

[darkbeaver]

Yes, there was the flood in which the people of Noah were drowned; the flood included one country of the earth: Iraq where Noah was dwelling in the city now called Ain Siphny, which means the water fountain from where the Ark of Noah set on. This city is situated near Mosul (Nineveh).
Noah took with him in the Ark: his sons and their wives, excepting Canaan his grandson who were drowned with the rest of the people. Nooh also took with him one pair (male and female) of the cattle, the poultry and the riding-animals.)
In the vicinity of this city was a large amount of tar, [in the city now called Quayyara,] which he used to paint the Ark, so that no water may intrude in the Ark.

In some excavations, they saw some layers of alluvium, then some town remnants, then another layer of alluvium.

When the god passed close to earth it pulled the waters over the land and destroyed the civilization, someone warned noah, a shipwright, and he built the ark and covered it with pitch. All to preserve DNA. The ark was a conspiracy of god and man it seems, someone warned Noah well in advance, somebody with observatories, maybe Sumerians maybe the Chinese maybe a bird. You need quite a bit of lead time for a project like the ark I imagine not to mention marine engineers.

 

[quandary121]

When the god passed close to earth it pulled the waters over the land and destroyed the civilization, someone warned noah, a shipwright, and he built the ark and covered it with pitch. All to preserve DNA. The ark was a conspiracy of god and man it seems, someone warned Noah well in advance, somebody with observatories, maybe Sumerians maybe the Chinese maybe a bird. You need quite a bit of lead time for a project like the ark I imagine not to mention marine engineers.

Noah was warned because the people of the earth had corrupted themselves or there DNA with the Nephilim sons of God