Does the rain come down from the cloud?
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Actually, clouds are manifestations of holographic interference designed to cloak spacecraft from the planet Zorack as they harvest moisture from the Terran face. What appears as rain falling is moisture going up. The illusion is so perfect.....
~snicker~
...and if you believe that, I have a mountain chalet in the wilds of South Florida I'll sell ya!....
Woof!
~snicker~
...and if you believe that, I have a mountain chalet in the wilds of South Florida I'll sell ya!....
Woof!
You think the rain precipitation process is that easily understood, and you started mocking and woofing.
See about that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precipitation_(meteorology)#How_precipitation_forms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergeron_process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalescence_%28meteorology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergeron_process
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalescence_%28meteorology%29
And see this link about the condensation nuclei:
وَأَرْسَلْنَا الرِّيَاحَ لَوَاقِحَ فَأَنزَلْنَا مِنَ السَّمَاء مَاء
The explanation: (And We send forth the 'impregnating' winds, and We send down water from the sky)
The interpretation: the wind impregnates or fertilizes the trees; and the wind impregnates the cloud; because the wind carries some dust and smoke particles and when these collides with the snow particles scattered in the atmosphere, this will lead to warming of these snow particles causing the rain formation. [In addition, these particles will act as nuclei around which some water droplets will collect.]
eanassir
Does it not occur to you that your use of the Koran to explain all makes Islam appear on the same level as some of those more off-the-wall cults who believe they can catch a ride on Hale Bopp? A religious text is just that. You don't go to a butcher shop to buy a shirt do you?
BTW, if you take humour as an insult, you are taking yourself far too seriously, thus creating your own hell on Earth.
Woof!
BTW, if you take humour as an insult, you are taking yourself far too seriously, thus creating your own hell on Earth.
Woof!
If you think that citation from the Quran covers what's in those Wikipedia articles you cited, you've really lost your capacity for reason. If you want to talk religion eanassir, go to the religion threads, you'll get nothing but crap and abuse for it in science threads. And why do you keep putting in the Arabic? Almost nobody here but you can read it. For all the effect it has you might as well just stick in a line like "This is in the Quran 15:22 ^%$&%$%^*%@!@!@#@^@%#@%$^)" It doesn't mean anything to most of us.
But neither does anything else you write.
Thank you for your humour; but they in fact take the mockery in a way to ridicule the Glorious Quran: the word of God.
I am a servant of the Quran: I work to serve the Glorious Quran, which is not like other religious texts; it includes a large number of ayat pertaining to science in different disciplines even it describes the embryological phases of creating man in the womb.
I didn't say about catching the comet; it is a flaming object, while the ignorant ( who claim science) say it is not: therefore compare these two images of the comet and the asteroid to see the difference:
This is about three fragments of a comet:
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA08438_modest.jpg
And this is about an asteroid which is an inert rock:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0406/idadactyl_galileo_big.gif
If they say: this is the effect of the friction with the atmosphere: all these bodies are outside the atmosphere; if they say this is the effect of the sunrays: why the effect then is so obvious on the comet and not so on the asteroid? On the contrary, the picture of the asteroid is taken when the sun shines on this asteroid, while the picture of the comet was taken at night.
وَالنَّجْمُ وَالشَّجَرُ يَسْجُدَانِ
The explanation: (The [tailed-] stars and the trees fall down [in adoration; being faraway and nearby objects.] )
The ‘falling down in adoration’, here, is the obedience and falling down upon the Earth.(See here the trees in the Tunguska region fallen fan-shaped.)
Straw man. Nobody says that.
Yes, they do say that, and it's because the asteroid and the comet are made of different things. The comet is made of volatiles that radiation can easily modify, the harder stuff the asteroid's made of doesn't respond the same way.
That must be the dumbest single thing you've said so far. What do you think illuminates the moon and the planets at night? Whether or not it's night at the particular place you happen to be on the earth has nothing to do with the illumination of distant bodies in the sky. Do you know what a shadow is? Do you understand anything about perspective, lines of sight, anything like that? I'm beginning to think you're more than merely ignorant, that argument is simply stupid.
Tunguska is due to an explosion of an asteroid it produced a 10 to 15 megaton blast 3 to 6 miles above the earth- Eanassir do you have a twin? no one person can be this stupid.
So your religion has more than one god, how multi-supreme being of you. Anyway how do you know you have the only god, I can name loads of other gods each as believable as yours. No, safest to stay neutral and be atheist, imagine going to heaven and finding you've backed the wrong religion all this time, tut tut. Gods can accept atheists but following the wrong one would be hell (literally).......
You think yourself know and grasp the knowledge and science, then you are so ignorant indeed [This is a parable]
Have you read the story of The Emperor's New Clothes? So now they say: the comet is composed of ice and dirt, and you believed them although it is not logical.
Have you the courage to object to such frail theories, and say to them: I am D. S.; your theory of the ice and dirt is so silly?
Moreover, do you compare the moon-light to the bright light of the comet even though the comet is much far?
Is this light in the comet due to the reflection of sun-light?
See the images once again:
The comet in the darkness
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA08438_modest.jpg
The asteroid in the sun shine:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0406/idadactyl_galileo_big.gif
eanassir
http://universeandquran.741.com
Have you read the story of The Emperor's New Clothes? So now they say: the comet is composed of ice and dirt, and you believed them although it is not logical.
Have you the courage to object to such frail theories, and say to them: I am D. S.; your theory of the ice and dirt is so silly?
Moreover, do you compare the moon-light to the bright light of the comet even though the comet is much far?
Is this light in the comet due to the reflection of sun-light?
See the images once again:
The comet in the darkness
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA08438_modest.jpg
The asteroid in the sun shine:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0406/idadactyl_galileo_big.gif
eanassir
http://universeandquran.741.com
This expression "We" in plural is used in the Quran to glorify God His Majesty the King (and among the excellent names of God is the King, the Owner, the One, the Almighty ...etc.)
This is common in the language of the Arab, and it is used till now by kings when they say: We the king of Jordan or other countries.
The first word in the Islam is No god but God alone without any associate.
If you want to be saved in the next world, then believe in God alone without associate, son, equal or patron; and work the righteous work as much as you can for the sake of God alone not for others (not for Moses, Jesus, Mohammed or other prophets and saints).
This is in the Quran 18: 110
This is common in the language of the Arab, and it is used till now by kings when they say: We the king of Jordan or other countries.
The first word in the Islam is No god but God alone without any associate.
If you want to be saved in the next world, then believe in God alone without associate, son, equal or patron; and work the righteous work as much as you can for the sake of God alone not for others (not for Moses, Jesus, Mohammed or other prophets and saints).
This is in the Quran 18: 110
قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَى إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَهُكُمْ إِلَهٌ وَاحِدٌ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاء رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا
The explanation:
(Say: "I am only a human being like yourselves; [but] I am inspired that your God is only One God. Then let him who hopes to meet his Lord, work righteous works and associate none in worshipping his Lord.)
The interpretation:
>> (Say [to them, O Mohammed]: "I am only a human being like yourselves): I cannot do anything without the might of my Lord.
>> ([but only] I am inspired that your God is only One God); therefore do not serve anyone apart from Him, and do not assign for Him any associate, neither any intercessor nor any redeemer.
>> (Then let him who hopes to meet his Lord)
And have the congratulation for admission to Paradise, and the angels will welcome him with the glad tidings,
>> Then let him (work righteous works, and associate in worshipping his Lord none [of the created beings and creatures].)
eanassir
http://universeandquran.741.com
They're both in the sunshine you silly man, that's the only way we can see them. And yes, I do "know and grasp the knowledge and science," as you rather clumsily put it. I think a successful 30+ year career in the subject speaks for itself. The ignorant one here is you.
You rushed again as I said to you.
Both of them are in sunshine, and see the difference.
Now wait a minute, you just said the asteroid was in the sunshine and the comet was in the night, now you say theyr'e both in the sunshine. Which is it? your just grasping at straws. Face it you don't know WTF your talking about.
It is known that science without good manner is nothing; moreover, the good manner is essential particularly in the internet: because usually they hide behind the internet and their pseudo-names; then any bad conduct will indicate the cowardice and lowliness.
When I started posting here in this Canadian forum, I have known many gentle men and women, and many noble friends with their noble descent: men who belong to different sects.
When I wrote my posts in the forum, and mentioned the Quranic quotations, there were some who – from the start – took an antagonist position, on the pretext of science. They did not stick to the science and discuss the scientific ideas, but they started to mock and ridicule the Quran: like: the Quran was written since 1400 years; the man who wrote the Quran belongs to the seventh century; religion is false and there is no god as they lied.
In particular, the one naming himself Dexter Sinister who "knows no bounds", as they say, and in fact he transgressed the bounds against the religion, the Quran, the Prophet and in fact all religions and all heavenly books and he was against God.
He did not discuss the subject in scientific way, as many members did, but he started to take that a pretext to transgress on the Quran, he and some of his friends.
If he is truly scientific, he will discuss any subject from scientific aspects, explaining how such idea is right or wrong, and that's it.
If he claims the "science", why will not he limit himself to discussing the subject in scientific way? And no one may oblige anyone to accept or refuse any scientific idea.
Moreover, this one started to mock me and transgress on me incessantly with words of non-respect and transgression: like ignorant, silly and many other bad words.
I can return ten folds words against such man, but that will be against me; because I invite others to the Glorious Quran, and this will be ridiculous to speak some words that are not proper.
Therefore, from now on, I shall not reply to this one and some of his friends, whatever he shouted and cried with good or bad words. And I leave to other members and guests to see all his replies to this thread in particular.
eanassir
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
When I started posting here in this Canadian forum, I have known many gentle men and women, and many noble friends with their noble descent: men who belong to different sects.
When I wrote my posts in the forum, and mentioned the Quranic quotations, there were some who – from the start – took an antagonist position, on the pretext of science. They did not stick to the science and discuss the scientific ideas, but they started to mock and ridicule the Quran: like: the Quran was written since 1400 years; the man who wrote the Quran belongs to the seventh century; religion is false and there is no god as they lied.
In particular, the one naming himself Dexter Sinister who "knows no bounds", as they say, and in fact he transgressed the bounds against the religion, the Quran, the Prophet and in fact all religions and all heavenly books and he was against God.
He did not discuss the subject in scientific way, as many members did, but he started to take that a pretext to transgress on the Quran, he and some of his friends.
If he is truly scientific, he will discuss any subject from scientific aspects, explaining how such idea is right or wrong, and that's it.
If he claims the "science", why will not he limit himself to discussing the subject in scientific way? And no one may oblige anyone to accept or refuse any scientific idea.
Moreover, this one started to mock me and transgress on me incessantly with words of non-respect and transgression: like ignorant, silly and many other bad words.
I can return ten folds words against such man, but that will be against me; because I invite others to the Glorious Quran, and this will be ridiculous to speak some words that are not proper.
Therefore, from now on, I shall not reply to this one and some of his friends, whatever he shouted and cried with good or bad words. And I leave to other members and guests to see all his replies to this thread in particular.
eanassir
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
From your Glorious Quran:
3:66 Lo! ye are those who argue about that whereof ye have some knowledge: Why then argue ye concerning that whereof ye have no knowledge? Allah knoweth. Ye know not.
The explanation: don't argue about things you know nothing about.
3:66 Lo! ye are those who argue about that whereof ye have some knowledge: Why then argue ye concerning that whereof ye have no knowledge? Allah knoweth. Ye know not.
The explanation: don't argue about things you know nothing about.
Generally, the rain comes down from the sky, as in a large number of the Quran ayat, like this aya 25: 48
وَهُوَ الَّذِي أَرْسَلَ الرِّيَاحَ بُشْرًا بَيْنَ يَدَيْ رَحْمَتِهِ وَأَنزَلْنَا مِنَ السَّمَاء مَاء طَهُورًا
The explanation: (And it is He Who sends the winds, bearing good tidings just before His mercy [: the rain], and We send down from the sky purifying water.)
So He explained here that the rain water comes down from the sky, and that it is heralded by a certain kind of the wind that will bear to them the glad tidings that the rain is coming. God explained also that the rain water is pure and palatable to drinking and is purifying of the dirt when used by man for washing, and it purifies the atmosphere from the smoke and dust and other polluting substances.
Because it is hot and less denser than the cold air, the hot wind and the cloud rising up will be faced by the snow scattered in the high altitudes like in the cirrus and alto clouds, so this rising hot wind and cloud will come below that snow, and will be prevented from rising up, and the hot wind and the cloud will heat that snow leading to its melting [in addition to some pressure effect, because the hot wind and cloud will be prevented, by that snow, from rising up].
This will lead to melting of that snow into water drops that will come down through the cloud that has come below, and when it is falling down, it will drag more water droplets from the lower cloud leading to the falling down of the rain in profuse amount.
The rain
The presence of the hot wind and cloud is essential, without which the rain will not fall, then when the snow will accumulate, it will come down in the snow form, like in some cold countries in winter, because there is no hot wind to melt that snow.
The snow
N.B. The Quran is only in Arabic; the English words are merely the translation of the meaning, and the English words are not the Quran.
eanassir
http://universeandquran.741.com
So He explained here that the rain water comes down from the sky, and that it is heralded by a certain kind of the wind that will bear to them the glad tidings that the rain is coming. God explained also that the rain water is pure and palatable to drinking and is purifying of the dirt when used by man for washing, and it purifies the atmosphere from the smoke and dust and other polluting substances.
Because it is hot and less denser than the cold air, the hot wind and the cloud rising up will be faced by the snow scattered in the high altitudes like in the cirrus and alto clouds, so this rising hot wind and cloud will come below that snow, and will be prevented from rising up, and the hot wind and the cloud will heat that snow leading to its melting [in addition to some pressure effect, because the hot wind and cloud will be prevented, by that snow, from rising up].
This will lead to melting of that snow into water drops that will come down through the cloud that has come below, and when it is falling down, it will drag more water droplets from the lower cloud leading to the falling down of the rain in profuse amount.
The rain
The presence of the hot wind and cloud is essential, without which the rain will not fall, then when the snow will accumulate, it will come down in the snow form, like in some cold countries in winter, because there is no hot wind to melt that snow.
The snow
N.B. The Quran is only in Arabic; the English words are merely the translation of the meaning, and the English words are not the Quran.
eanassir
http://universeandquran.741.com
Nuts! I have seen it rain when there wasn't a visible cloud overhead and it is also not necessarily preceeded by a "certain kind of the wind". lmao