That covers 98% of the people on any forum, not just CC. My post to Dexter had 3 points, he failed to mention anything about why the moon rotates at the speed it does nor about weather patterns in ancient times. How is that any different?
Does the rain come down from the cloud?
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That covers 98% of the people on any forum, not just CC. My post to Dexter had 3 points, he failed to mention anything about why the moon rotates at the speed it does nor about weather patterns in ancient times. How is that any different?
That post was addressed to shintomale regarding MY experience with eanassir, I am not in the habit of answering question directed at other members.
It's different because it's not true. I did explain why the moon rotates at the speed it does--though not in this thread--, it's a well-understood phenomenon called tidal locking. Weather patterns in ancient times have nothing to do with it, so it didn't seem worth talking about.
And there's a difference between calling people names and calling them what they clearly are.
Where are your scientific wranglings and proves against the subject of "the cloud in relation to the rain"?
While concerning the Moon; we may go along with them in a way of wrangling: but anyhow the Moon keeps the same face towards the earth; the same is true about Mercury and Venus: they keep the same face towards the sun.
While concerning the Moon; we may go along with them in a way of wrangling: but anyhow the Moon keeps the same face towards the earth; the same is true about Mercury and Venus: they keep the same face towards the sun.
It it sometimes called tidal deformation. The reason I brought up weather patterns is that it comes from an ancient book, although it is more an observation than theory or principle would science be able to confirm or debunk the accuracy?
Sometimes, for myself, it can be appropriate but in only in some conversations. When I get called one I react either with a laugh and a 'that's a pretty good one' or 'heard that how many times before'. If only one side is using 'name calling', then it just became 'un-appropriate' when talking to that 1 person.
If I was to say this to you, as an attack on your intelligence, 'if your brain was shoved up a gnat's ass, it would be comparative to putting a BB in a boxcar'. I would hope it made you laugh a bit, being trounced in the main subject already would have brought on a frown.
Then there are the few who blow a cork. and we both know how much fun that is.
Now my guide to the subject has an answer to 'did the first rain rise from the earth and then come back down or did it come down as 'snow from space' and the earth changed it to rain. It doesn't have an answer to a question that would show the size and trajectory of how the moon and earth interacted in the past. A collision might explain the wobble, and how much rotational speed was effected, a glancing blow would either speed it up or slow it down. Their cooling off might have looked like large drops thick liquid in slow motion.
If it hit the earth against rotation could the slow-down, that has been measured, be just part of that event? As it moves further away our days should become shorter (less influence).
If the position of the moon is the cause of our rotation slowing down then the earth must be out-of-round, same as the moon is. Also, the earth should be trying to influence the moons rotation (action/reaction). If we are slowing, it's month should be doing something different, faster/slower, I don't know what numbers they would give for that..
the other planets are rotating do some researching instead oof reading a book writtened in the 7th century
Amigo Dexter or Shinto,
The book of the seventh century is the word of God: the Eternal and the Everlasting.
If we now know a little bit of knowledge which He has conferred on us, it does not mean we know everything, or our knowledge is infallible.
This is in the Quran 25: 6
The book of the seventh century is the word of God: the Eternal and the Everlasting.
If we now know a little bit of knowledge which He has conferred on us, it does not mean we know everything, or our knowledge is infallible.
This is in the Quran 25: 6
قُلْ أَنزَلَهُ الَّذِي يَعْلَمُ السِّرَّ فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ إِنَّهُ كَانَ غَفُورًا رَّحِيمًا
The explanation: (Say [O Mohammed, to them]: "[It is God], That revealed [the Quran], Who knows the secret [that is] in the heavens and the earth; for surely He is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.)
And God - be glorified - said in the Quran 17: 85
And God - be glorified - said in the Quran 17: 85
وَمَا أُوتِيتُم مِّن الْعِلْمِ إِلاَّ قَلِيلاً
The explanation: (And you [people] are given only a little knowledge.)
I know they do now say such theories, but the Quran is guiding us to more correct truths, like the existence of people on some of the planets, and I may then remind many people when this will be discovered, but will they admit it then?
http://universeandquran.site.io/#The_planets_Are_Inhabited_
http://universeandquran.site.io/new_page_2.htm#An_Anticipated_Meeting_
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
Joseph saw in a dream eleven planets. Does this mean that according to the Quran there are eleven planets in our solar system? 12:4
the sun rises and sets at particular places on a flat earth. At the westernmost point on earth, the sun sets in a muddy spring. 18:86, 90
Humans are formed from "a gushing fluid" that issues "from between the loins and the ribs." 86:5-7
the sun rises and sets at particular places on a flat earth. At the westernmost point on earth, the sun sets in a muddy spring. 18:86, 90
Humans are formed from "a gushing fluid" that issues "from between the loins and the ribs." 86:5-7
The planets are nine, including the planet that was destroyed when its Doomsday was due (because its people were associaters and disbeliever and wrongdoers; so God made their Doomsday earlier). But Joseph saw in his well-known dream the planets eleven; because his brothers were eleven, and these planets in the dream were the symbols for his eleven brothers; because they were of noble descents and sons of the prophets.
There is nothing like this "the sun rises and sets at particular places on a flat earth" But as I said in a past reply (and according to the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible":
Alexander the great marched to the west and reached Abyssinia at the time of the sun-set, which in Arabic is the same word as West: this led to the confusion: because the word
مغرب
gives the meaning of the sun-set and the West; as is the word عين
gives the meaning of the eye, the water-spring, the eye of the needle, the disc of the sun, the colony of the ants, the well of petrol, the mine of metals...etc.
The interpreter explained it means the watching and the observing, by referring to many ayat and to the Arab poetry. Refer to our site: the Question 5 and its answer in the subject of the
Sun
The interpreter explained it means the watching and the observing, by referring to many ayat and to the Arab poetry. Refer to our site: the Question 5 and its answer in the subject of the
Sun
This is the interpretation by the late Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly:
" It means: [The seminal fluid] issues from the body of man, and collects into two [seminal] vesicles near the bladder, and at the sexual intercourse, it issues with ejection or gushing, and pour in the uterus of the woman. So the الصُّلْبِ means the back and the التَّرَائِبِ means the chest bones. "
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Why God made some of the Quran revelations ambiguous:
The Arab were eloquent in language and poetry.
Moreover they were, and still they are, clever in solving puzzles which they use in a way of saying things that the stranger cannot understand, but they among themselves do know.
Two examples here are worthy of mentioning:
At the present time: In the revolution of 1920 in Iraq, the English imprisoned Shaikh Sha'lan who was one of the leaders of that revolution; then his relatives came to visit him in the prison; the spies of the English were present with them, so Shaikh Sha'lan said to his relatives: Of necessity, I want 10 liras
gold coins); the spies did not understand; they thought he wanted 10 gold coins, but his relatives understood that he means: I want 10 strong and brave men who will be enough to liberate me from the prison. This was what happened the next day, and 10 men came and freed him.
From the past: One of the Arab, who was a hero, but became old, and traveled with two servants; the servants plotted to kill him and say to his family: he died during the journey and we buried him. This man knew about their plot; so he told them a poetry: to go to his two daughters and say to them:
"My daughters, your father!"
When they killed him, they went to his daughters and said: your fathers requested that we say to you: "My daughters, your father!"
The daughters understood that this poetry needed some completion:
"My daughters, your father!" " has been murdered; take revenge of these men"
Therefore, the Quran was revealed in their language and included their custom of the eloquence and the puzzle.
God challenged them to do like the Quran and bring about something similar to it in the eloquence or to solve the puzzles included in it; because Mohammed was one of them, so if they claim that he compiled the Quran, then either bring about something similar to it in eloquence or solve its puzzles. But they could not do that.
Then God declared that He will explain it to them in the future, as in the Quran 75: 19
The Arab were eloquent in language and poetry.
Moreover they were, and still they are, clever in solving puzzles which they use in a way of saying things that the stranger cannot understand, but they among themselves do know.
Two examples here are worthy of mentioning:
At the present time: In the revolution of 1920 in Iraq, the English imprisoned Shaikh Sha'lan who was one of the leaders of that revolution; then his relatives came to visit him in the prison; the spies of the English were present with them, so Shaikh Sha'lan said to his relatives: Of necessity, I want 10 liras
gold coins); the spies did not understand; they thought he wanted 10 gold coins, but his relatives understood that he means: I want 10 strong and brave men who will be enough to liberate me from the prison. This was what happened the next day, and 10 men came and freed him.From the past: One of the Arab, who was a hero, but became old, and traveled with two servants; the servants plotted to kill him and say to his family: he died during the journey and we buried him. This man knew about their plot; so he told them a poetry: to go to his two daughters and say to them:
"My daughters, your father!"
When they killed him, they went to his daughters and said: your fathers requested that we say to you: "My daughters, your father!"
The daughters understood that this poetry needed some completion:
"My daughters, your father!" " has been murdered; take revenge of these men"
Therefore, the Quran was revealed in their language and included their custom of the eloquence and the puzzle.
God challenged them to do like the Quran and bring about something similar to it in the eloquence or to solve the puzzles included in it; because Mohammed was one of them, so if they claim that he compiled the Quran, then either bring about something similar to it in eloquence or solve its puzzles. But they could not do that.
Then God declared that He will explain it to them in the future, as in the Quran 75: 19
ثُمَّ إِنَّ عَلَيْنَا بَيَانَهُ
The explanation: (Then, [after a long time] We have to explain it [to people.])
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
Rain is a type of precipitation, a product of the condensation of atmospheric water vapor that is released on the Earth's surface. It forms when separate drops of water fall to the Earth from clouds. Not all rain reaches the surface; some of it evaporates while falling through dry air. When none of it reaches the ground, it is called virga, a phenomenon often seen in hot, dry desert regions. The METAR code for rain is RA.
get that you science illiterate? rain can only come from clouds and all the Quran verses in the world cannot change that fact
get that you science illiterate? rain can only come from clouds and all the Quran verses in the world cannot change that fact
As it has been explained in the past replies:
The rain comes from within or through the cloud; the cloud and the hot wind will be essential for the precipitation of the rain, without which the rain process will not be possible.
This is in the Quran 7: 57
The rain comes from within or through the cloud; the cloud and the hot wind will be essential for the precipitation of the rain, without which the rain process will not be possible.
This is in the Quran 7: 57
وَهُوَ الَّذِي يُرْسِلُ الرِّيَاحَ بُشْرًا بَيْنَ يَدَيْ رَحْمَتِهِ حَتَّى إِذَا أَقَلَّتْ سَحَابًا ثِقَالاً سُقْنَاهُ لِبَلَدٍ مَّيِّتٍ فَأَنزَلْنَا بِهِ الْمَاء فَأَخْرَجْنَا بِهِ مِن كُلِّ الثَّمَرَاتِ ...الخ
The explanation:
(It is He Who looses the winds bearing good-tidings before [,or heralding, the rain which is] His mercy; till, when they are charged with the heavy cloud, We drive it to a dead land*, and therewith send down [, from the sky, rain] water, and bring forth therewith all the fruits …etc.)
The interpretation:
[* i.e. a land having no plant.]
>> ( and therewith send down [, from the sky, rain] water); it means: and, by means of the wind, We make the fall down of water; i.e. because of it; for it is a hot wind which melts away some of that snow scattered high in the sky; so that it falls down as rain.
The rain
There are two current theories for the rain process: Bergeron theory: ice crystal melting, and the coalescence of the water droplets; both explanations do not contradict the mediation of the hot wind and the cloud in precipitating the rain. On the contrary, what the interpreter of the Quran said gives a better and more correct explanation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precipitation_(meteorology)#Condensation
Generally speaking, in the Quran, the water comes down from the sky, and from through or within the cloud. The word 'rain' is used for the raining of stones of meteorites on the disbelieving people.
It is like His saying – be exalted – in the Quran 15: 74 about Lot's people:
(It is He Who looses the winds bearing good-tidings before [,or heralding, the rain which is] His mercy; till, when they are charged with the heavy cloud, We drive it to a dead land*, and therewith send down [, from the sky, rain] water, and bring forth therewith all the fruits …etc.)
The interpretation:
[* i.e. a land having no plant.]
>> ( and therewith send down [, from the sky, rain] water); it means: and, by means of the wind, We make the fall down of water; i.e. because of it; for it is a hot wind which melts away some of that snow scattered high in the sky; so that it falls down as rain.
The rain
There are two current theories for the rain process: Bergeron theory: ice crystal melting, and the coalescence of the water droplets; both explanations do not contradict the mediation of the hot wind and the cloud in precipitating the rain. On the contrary, what the interpreter of the Quran said gives a better and more correct explanation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precipitation_(meteorology)#Condensation
Generally speaking, in the Quran, the water comes down from the sky, and from through or within the cloud. The word 'rain' is used for the raining of stones of meteorites on the disbelieving people.
It is like His saying – be exalted – in the Quran 15: 74 about Lot's people:
فَجَعَلْنَا عَالِيَهَا سَافِلَهَا وَأَمْطَرْنَا عَلَيْهِمْ حِجَارَةً مِّن سِجِّيلٍ
The explanation: (And We made [by the earthquake] its uppermost parts lowermost [: their building collapsed on them and they were buried under the wreck], and rained down upon them the sedimentary stones of 'sijjiel')
Also like His saying in the Quran 26: 173
Also like His saying in the Quran 26: 173
وَأَمْطَرْنَا عَلَيْهِم مَّطَرًا فَسَاء مَطَرُ الْمُنذَرِينَ
The explanation: (And We rained on them a rain [of stones]; and evil was the rain of them that were warned [by Lot.] )
The rain in the Quran is generally mentioned as:
water coming down from the sky,
the mercy of God
and the help for their urgent need of the rain water.
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
The rain in the Quran is generally mentioned as:
water coming down from the sky,
the mercy of God
and the help for their urgent need of the rain water.
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
Rain can form without winds
Rain is a type of precipitation, a product of the condensation of atmospheric water vapor that is released on the Earth's surface. It forms when separate drops of water fall to the Earth from clouds. Not all rain reaches the surface; some of it evaporates while falling through dry air. When none of it reaches the ground, it is called virga, a phenomenon often seen in hot, dry desert regions. The METAR code for rain is RA.
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Formation
Rain plays a role in the hydrologic cycle in which moisture from the oceans evaporates, condenses into drops, precipitates (falls) from the sky, and eventually returns to the ocean via rivers and streams to repeat the cycle again. The water vapor from plant respiration also contributes to the moisture in the atmosphere.
A major scientific explanation of how rain forms and falls is called the Bergeron process. More recent research points to the influence of Cloud condensation nuclei released as the result of biological processes.
Rain is a type of precipitation, a product of the condensation of atmospheric water vapor that is released on the Earth's surface. It forms when separate drops of water fall to the Earth from clouds. Not all rain reaches the surface; some of it evaporates while falling through dry air. When none of it reaches the ground, it is called virga, a phenomenon often seen in hot, dry desert regions. The METAR code for rain is RA.
Contents
Formation
Rain plays a role in the hydrologic cycle in which moisture from the oceans evaporates, condenses into drops, precipitates (falls) from the sky, and eventually returns to the ocean via rivers and streams to repeat the cycle again. The water vapor from plant respiration also contributes to the moisture in the atmosphere.
A major scientific explanation of how rain forms and falls is called the Bergeron process. More recent research points to the influence of Cloud condensation nuclei released as the result of biological processes.
The hot wind and the cloud is essential for the rain formation; if no hot wind is there, the ice crystals will accumulate and fall down as snow; specially in cold countries like Canada and Russia in winter time; for this reason, the rain is more in spring, than winter, when the temperature in spring will be warmer.
This is in the Quran 15: 22
وَأَرْسَلْنَاالرِّيَاحَ لَوَاقِحَ فَأَنزَلْنَا مِنَ السَّمَاء مَاء
The explanation: (And We send forth the 'impregnating' winds, and We send down water from the sky)
The interpretation:
The wind impregnates or fertilizes the trees;
and the wind impregnates the cloud; because the wind carries some dust and smoke particles and when these collides with the snow particles scattered in the atmosphere, this will lead to warming of these snow particles causing the rain formation. [In addition, these particles will act as nuclei around which some water droplets will collect.]
The wind impregnates or fertilizes the trees;
and the wind impregnates the cloud; because the wind carries some dust and smoke particles and when these collides with the snow particles scattered in the atmosphere, this will lead to warming of these snow particles causing the rain formation. [In addition, these particles will act as nuclei around which some water droplets will collect.]
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I shall answer you about all these points, by God's will.
So that you and others will know that the Quran is the word of God, and that is according to the Quran 61: 8
So that you and others will know that the Quran is the word of God, and that is according to the Quran 61: 8
يُرِيدُونَ لِيُطْفِؤُوا نُورَ اللَّهِ بِأَفْوَاهِهِمْ وَاللَّهُ مُتِمُّ نُورِهِ وَلَوْ كَرِهَ الْكَافِرُونَ
The explanation:
(They desire to extinguish the light of God [: the Quran] with [the words of] their mouths, but God will complete [revealing] His light however much the unbelievers are averse.)
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
(They desire to extinguish the light of God [: the Quran] with [the words of] their mouths, but God will complete [revealing] His light however much the unbelievers are averse.)
eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com
