Canadians under fire in Israel!

dancing-loon

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So...if it was an Isreali soldier that fired upon them...everything would be OK?

Palestinians must be pretty dumb if they mistake a group standing at an observation point in civilian clothes without weapons are soldiers.
Eagle, turn the situation around: Most Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers are no weapon bearing CIVILIANS.
 

DurkaDurka

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Eagle, turn the situation around: Most Palestinians killed by Israeli soldiers are no weapon bearing CIVILIANS.

Yeah, that's common to both sides of the dispute. Kinda like when a Palestinian decides to go "boom" in a market square, it's not like they are targeting the military.
 
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Hi Dancing_Loon..:)

America is only concerned with appearances. When Israel kills civilians that's OK but when a Palestinian kills an Israeli well last go around was a ratio of something like twelve to one...

You can't expect people who share the same philosophy on "defense" to believe or behave in any other way. When Israel dispatches armour into Palestinian neighborhoods that's "pre-emptive defense"....When America dispatches stealth bombers and cruise missiles into Baghadad in a foundationless war...that's "pre-emptive defense".

Yes there was a time when one nation invading another nation was called an act of war but the Israelis and their blood-kin America...have changed all that.

The dream has been realized!

War is but a memory!

It's all "pre-emptive defense" and proliferation of missiles is a missile shield comprised of missiles that have been programmed to understand their mission is only defensive and they won't explode if not convinced they've been fired in defense.....

Pleaaaaase!
 

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Yeah, that's common to both sides of the dispute. Kinda like when a Palestinian decides to go "boom" in a market square, it's not like they are targeting the military.
They are the underdog, they have no military might and definitely no A-Bomb. Suicide bombers are the only effective means of hitting back.
 

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They are the underdog, they have no military might and definitely no A-Bomb. Suicide bombers are the only effective means of hitting back.

You know Loon, I would half agree with that if they were targeting the military, but they are not, so your point is 100% BS from concentrate.
 

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Durka

Tell you what. I'll give you a bag of rocks and I'll take my nine milly and let's have at it!

In case you haven't noticed, this little jerk-ass nation has the best American technology available while Palestinians have what...?

I suggested quite a while ago that we de-technologize the area and let the chips fall where they may. Who do you think wins, Jews or Palestinians? Think numbers here.
 

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Hi Dancing_Loon..:)

America is only concerned with appearances. When Israel kills civilians that's OK but when a Palestinian kills an Israeli well last go around was a ratio of something like twelve to one...

You can't expect people who share the same philosophy on "defense" to believe or behave in any other way. When Israel dispatches armour into Palestinian neighborhoods that's "pre-emptive defense"....When America dispatches stealth bombers and cruise missiles into Baghadad in a foundationless war...that's "pre-emptive defense".

Yes there was a time when one nation invading another nation was called an act of war but the Israelis and their blood-kin America...have changed all that.

The dream has been realized!

War is but a memory!

It's all "pre-emptive defense" and proliferation of missiles is a missile shield comprised of missiles that have been programmed to understand their mission is only defensive and they won't explode if not convinced they've been fired in defense.....

Pleaaaaase!
Hi, Mikey;
I remember the Second WW, and can truly say, "Baby, you've come a long way!" Now a soldier has a TV around his wrist that can show him exactly what's around the corner, or behind a hill!
Back then the enemy required hundreds of aircraft to drop tons of bombs - now we have smart bombs, guided missiles, cluster bombs and A-Bombs. Half a dozen planes is enough to carry them to the designated area.
Surgical precision bombs is another gadget that comes to mind.

We live in a different world now! But still no peace.
 

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Durka

Tell you what. I'll give you a bag of rocks and I'll take my nine milly and let's have at it!

In case you haven't noticed, this little jerk-ass nation has the best American technology available while Palestinians have what...?

I suggested quite a while ago that we de-technologize the area and let the chips fall where they may. Who do you think wins, Jews or Palestinians? Think numbers here.
Mikey... as a young person I have often thought about a solution to avoid wars. My favorite idea was to put the top leaders of the conflict countries into a boxing rink, and the winner gets his wish. Imagine Hitler and Stalin fighting, or Churchill and Goering, both weighty, punching each other out! Today we could have had Bush with Saddam in the rink!! Or Olmert with the Hamas guy. It should be shown live on television world-wide!! What fun that would be!!:lol::lol:
 

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Durka

Tell you what. I'll give you a bag of rocks and I'll take my nine milly and let's have at it!

In case you haven't noticed, this little jerk-ass nation has the best American technology available while Palestinians have what...?

I suggested quite a while ago that we de-technologize the area and let the chips fall where they may. Who do you think wins, Jews or Palestinians? Think numbers here.

Right Mikey, do you remember the Iranian revolution? It seem the revolutionairies did quite well in taking down an American backed and armed government? Same for Cuba, arms superiority doesn't gurantee anything.

They can go ahead and demilitarize the whole area, who wins doesn't really matter to me either way.
 
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MikeyDB

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No Dancing_Loon we have American aggression disguised as pre-emptive defense. we have the most powerful nation on earth backing the Israeli government and we have a world teetering on self-destruction because the likes of Haliburton and KBR and the Carlyle Group have manged to hoodwink the American people into fantasies about "freedom" and democracy when in fact its about oil and American hegemony.

If any of the actions taken by Israel against Palestinians or actions of America taken against Iraq were turned around against Israel and America the cry would be heard that an evil aggressor is present and duty honor and freedom-loving people the world over should rally to the noble cause of Ameriacan freedom and Israeli freedom.

These lunatics have turned the world on its ear and squirm out of even a token acknowledgement of their responsibility in creating and driving the dynamics of war.
 

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You know Loon, I would half agree with that if they were targeting the military, but they are not, so your point is 100% BS from concentrate.
Ah... you still like to shoot your arrows at me, eh?
Perhaps you are the most suitable guy to lead a suicide bomber to the I. army.
 

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Durka

Bulltripe!

When Russia put missiles on the island of Cuba, do you honestly believe that we weren't close to WW III? Now America thinks it can spread weapons all over Europe and no one will mind!

Weapons make a hell of a difference Durka. When the U.S. was supplying Hussein with VX gas for his war with Iran do you think they did that because weapons make no difference?

Come on! Do you think the United States of Free Floating Paranoia doesn't think that Kim Jong Il or whatever his name is...wouldn't be a threat if he had missiles topped with nukes?

It's all about weapons superiority, that's what energized the Cold War and that's the game America is playing again. Israel is America's little "proving ground". The Israelis were fortunate to learn that the American Patriot Missiles weren't worth a pinch of coon-XXXX and bought some technology from Germany. The great Satan of our present world is American hubris and their preparededness to weaponize space and every square inch of this planet. Make no mistake about this Durka, that big stick mentality is alive and well.
 

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I wonder what the hit-ratio is between Israeli troops and Palestinians.... Which group has better aim...?

"Gun control" is hitting what you're aiming at.

I think the Israelis are reasonably well-trained, and they use a high proportion of snipers. as well, they use rifles that you can actually hit something with, the ubiquitous AK 47 being a serious "spray and pray" weapon IMHO..........

Let's give this one to the Israelis......

Did you know that the sex doctor, that old sawed off little lady, was a fully qualified Israeli sniper? What was her name?......famous.......damn......

I saw an interview with her, when she was in Isreal, she did her training.....the first day on the range the RO pulled her aside and asked where she learned to shoot. It was the first time she had ever fired a rifle...........off to sniper school with her........

Surprized? :)
 
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DurkaDurka

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Mikey, I wan't really talking about global weapon superiority, but anyways.

The US weapons still didn't help the Sha stay in power or Batista, so weapons obviously are not the deciding factor in issues like that.

The palestinians have too much conflict from wihin their own country to ever assert them selves against Israel, and not too mention they receive only verbal support from their supposed arab allies. I'm sure you'll chalk that up to American bribes though ;)
 

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Bulltripe!

When Russia put missiles on the island of Cuba, do you honestly believe that we weren't close to WW III? Now America thinks it can spread weapons all over Europe and no one will mind!

Weapons make a hell of a difference Durka. When the U.S. was supplying Hussein with VX gas for his war with Iran do you think they did that because weapons make no difference?

Come on! Do you think the United States of Free Floating Paranoia doesn't think that Kim Jong Il or whatever his name is...wouldn't be a threat if he had missiles topped with nukes?

It's all about weapons superiority, that's what energized the Cold War and that's the game America is playing again. Israel is America's little "proving ground". The Israelis were fortunate to learn that the American Patriot Missiles weren't worth a pinch of coon-XXXX and bought some technology from Germany. The great Satan of our present world is American hubris and their preparededness to weaponize space and every square inch of this planet. Make no mistake about this Durka, that big stick mentality is alive and well.
That is so true, Mikey, and well formulated.... I think Durka may get it this time!!;-)
 

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Well we could talk about Virginia Tech or Columbine or instances of Americans shooting at Americans.....

or École Polytechnique , instances of French Canadians shooting French Canadians.