Judging from the last couple posts it seems our Christian defenders are getting both a little testier and obviously more confused.
I just wanted it clarified if you see anybody in society as being an evil person and just what you define unruly as.
Perhaps you've forgotten the earlier texts about stoning children; easy to make excuses about what a rod might be, stones aren't that subject to "inrerpretation" though, eh?
It says a son, you are still a son of your parents, why do you insist on changing the words to suit your own agenda. You make it appear as somebody very young. What is the age of accountability for Jews? They aren't allowed to go to war before they are 20, is that the age when they could be held accountable to Laws that carry punishment? The parents instructions would have to be in harmony with those laws. As I said before, they didn't have prisons back then, death was their jail.
De:21:18:
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son,
which will not obey the voice of his father,
or the voice of his mother,
and that,
when they have chastened him,
will not hearken unto them:
De:21:19:
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him,
and bring him out unto the elders of his city,
and unto the gate of his place;
De:21:20:
And they shall say unto the elders of his city,
This our son is stubborn and rebellious,
he will not obey our voice;
he is a glutton,
and a drunkard.
De:21:21:
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones,
that he die:
so shalt thou put evil away from among you;
and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
And is Matthew OT? Maybe check out yer own Bible - our friends in Alberta nust be half way through a Molson six-pack by now to make such a silly statement.
Do you ever try and verify anything, when that was said He was talking to priests about the Law they were under, the conversation was before the cross. You keep grasping at things that don't even come close to supporting what you promote.
And even IF the quotes were all from the OT, so what? Your God is your God is he not? Jesus and the Spirit and Daddy and all that hype, right?
What do you mean, so what? What does a change in Law mean?
Tomorrow maybe we can discuss how Christian Europe slaughtered the Jews and used God's Holy Words to justify it - just thought I'd give you a head's up; maybe you can be MORE prepared for an intelligent discussion than you obviously were today.
How prepared should I get for you? Well they were probably killing a lot more than just Jews.
Good thought. Maybe we can start with a consideration of Crusaders wiping out Jewish settlements on the way to the Holy Land, or how the John who wrote Revelation condemned Jews as belonging to the "synagogue of Satan," thus letting loose centuries of Christian anti-Semitism, or how Rome was originally blamed for the crucifixion, until the emperor made Christianity the official state religion and blaming Rome became politically incorrect so it shifted to the Jews again...
You don't have to go that far, the 1st four Gospels have direct quotes from Jesus that more than spells that out. If the priests were acting outside their guidelines then they do belong to Satan.
Same if any Christian is acting outside our two Laws, they belong to Satan. Satan fighting Satan, no wonder he shouldn't have dominion over any living thing.
How hard is that to comprehend?
A God of love or a God of murder and atrocities?
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/greywlf/biblegod.html
I suppose He could have let Noah's family become corrupted if that was His plan, obviously it wasn't.
Bitch all you want that He hasn't yet taken firm control of your life.