NAFTA's legacy: the worst agreement we ever signed

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NAFTA's legacy: the worst agreement we ever signed


MURRAY DOBBIN
Special to Globe and Mail Update
March 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM EST

In the aftermath of Barack Obama's and Hillary Clinton's threats to "renegotiate" NAFTA — or pull out — the usual suspects have been activated to tell the world how wonderful the deal has been for Canada and the United States.
There is no doubt that the sector that devised the scheme in the first place and sold it to politicians have benefited greatly from this investors' rights agreement and its predecessor. The continent's largest corporations have greatly reduced regulatory impediments to their profits, radically lowered labour costs, gutted Canada's sovereign capacity to pass new environmental legislation and, in terms of investment restrictions, virtually erased the borders.
All of those corporate benefits, however, have been extremely bad for other aspects of Canada and for ordinary Canadians.
But first, let's dispose of a myth about free trade — the notion that it was responsible for massive increases in trade between the U.S. and Canada. According to an Industry Canada study, 91 per cent of the increase in trade in the 1990s was due to the cheap Canadian dollar and the sustained economic boom in the U.S. Now that our dollar is at par or higher, our manufacturing exports are plummeting.




But even if NAFTA were responsible for increased trade, Canadian workers have paid a huge price. Throughout the 1990s, federal governments trumpeted the need to be "competitive" under NAFTA as an excuse to implement some of the most Draconian rollbacks of Canadian social programs ever undertaken. In the name of "labour flexibility," Paul Martin implemented drastic changes to EI eligibility, and repealed the Canada Assistance Plan, freeing the provinces to gut their welfare programs. His extreme low-inflation policy deliberately kept unemployment at high levels (8 per cent to 9 per cent) for most of the 1990s.
That meant that, throughout the decade, workers' real wages actually declined. They still have not caught up to 1981 levels. And the highly paid 220,000 industrial jobs lost as a result of NAFTA are gone forever, replaced by lower-paid jobs.
NAFTA was supposed to unleash a flood of foreign investment — boosting our industrial capacity and productivity. Instead, since the first trade agreement was signed, more than 95 per cent of direct foreign investment has been used to buy up Canadian companies. Head offices and research and development money has headed south, and Canada has seen a steady decline in manufactured goods as a percentage of its GDP for the past 10 years.
Our productivity has fallen behind that of the U.S. in virtually every year since the FTA came into effect in 1989.
The environment has also suffered almost continuously since the deals were signed — and this is according to the Commission for Environmental Co-operation, the NAFTA agency responsible for monitoring the impact of the new regime. The North American Mosaic: The State of the Environment Report, released in 2001, declared that "North Americans are faced with the paradox that many activities on which the North American economy is based impoverish the environment on which our well-being ultimately depends."
It might also have mentioned that Canada has not passed a major new environmental protection law since NAFTA came into effect — at least not successfully. In two instances where it did try, NAFTA's investment chapter forced it to back off. In the Ethyl Corp. case, Canada tried to ban a gasoline additive, MMT, that damaged cars' catalytic converters (not to mention our health). The company sued under NAFTA and Canada withdrew the law. The resulting chill effect means we have no idea how many proposed new laws have been killed in their cribs.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper says Canada is an energy "superpower." But NAFTA virtually guaranteed that the U.S. would be the beneficiary of our energy, and it unleashed a massive increase in energy exports to the U.S.
Canada now exports 63 per cent of the oil it produces and 56 per cent of its natural gas to the U.S. And because of NAFTA's proportionality clause, Canada is legally obliged to continue exporting the same proportion of our oil and gas forever even if we face a shortage.
Next up is our water. The U.S. is already officially into its supply problems and it will, over the next 20 years, become a catastrophic crisis, outpacing even their predicted energy crisis.
NAFTA defines water as a good — meaning that, as soon as any provincial government signs a contract to export bulk water to the U.S. (by river diversion or tanker), nothing can stop further exports.
All of this, and for what? Allegedly, it was for guaranteed, predictable access to the U.S. market. But, of course, as the softwood lumber saga proved, there is no such thing. When its history is written, NAFTA could rightly be described as the worst agreement ever signed by a Canadian government.
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Murray Dobbin, a Vancouver writer, is a columnist for the online magazine The Tyee.
 

#juan

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I have never liked those little weasel clauses in NAFTA; like how we have to keep selling the same percentage of our oil and gas to the U.S. even if we are short of oil and gas ourselves. Or the nasty little one that says if one province agrees to export water in bulk, we no longer have control of it.
Clinton and Obama talked about renegotiating NAFTA...........It'll never happen. It's the best deal they ever had.........But not ours.
 

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How is it a good deal for us? The common working man? Just about every manufacturing industry has left because of NAFTA. Then a US company gets stonewalled trying to do business up in Nova Scotia. Now granted I agree in part with you that NAFTA is no good but don't think that each and every American is benefitting because of NAFTA while Canada and Mexico languish. But you whine about how bad we are and you guys pull the same stuff.
 

#juan

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How is it a good deal for us? The common working man? Just about every manufacturing industry has left because of NAFTA. Then a US company gets stonewalled trying to do business up in Nova Scotia. Now granted I agree in part with you that NAFTA is no good but don't think that each and every American is benefitting because of NAFTA while Canada and Mexico languish. But you whine about how bad we are and you guys pull the same stuff.

You misunderstand me Eagle. NAFTA is only good for multinational corporations. I don't think it is good for individual Americans or Canadians. These corporations have off-loaded labour and jobs to Asia and elsewhere and those jobs will never come back.....To either country. Oil and gas are not infinite resources and they will run out. In any case free trade is a myth. We just have to remember soft wood lumber.
 

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If you don't like NAFTA you're going to hate the North American Union and the Amaro!
 

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Yeah, I've been opposed to it since I learned about it. It is not good for us and we better stop it soon. Too bad the only party advocating NAFTA renegotiation is NDP :(
 

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NAFTA, CAFTA and the FTAA have never been good for any nation. It wasn't intended to be. This is another CFR scheme to supplant the already huge profits of it's members only. This is about money and power and was never seen as anything but that by those who originally opposed the whole gamut of those trade bills. These are all paving stones to the NAU which is being quietly pushed behind the scenes by some very affluent citizens of the world. One World Order is the eventual goal. The rich get richer and the workers fall farther behind.
 

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NAFTA, CAFTA and the FTAA have never been good for any nation. It wasn't intended to be. This is another CFR scheme to supplant the already huge profits of it's members only. This is about money and power and was never seen as anything but that by those who originally opposed the whole gamut of those trade bills. These are all paving stones to the NAU which is being quietly pushed behind the scenes by some very affluent citizens of the world. One World Order is the eventual goal. The rich get richer and the workers fall farther behind.

There was (is?) a document on the council of Canadians website that shows these elite actually discussing how to get around democracy. They are very evil people and I think we would be wise to realize that now before it is too late.
 

Milko

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Isn't the fact that NAFTA is crap like the oldest news on earth?

Um, why nobody is addressing it? I wrote to my NDP member long time ago, all I got was some crappy flyer how conservatives decreasing corporate tax on oil industry to 15% by 2011. And I am watching question period and passing bills days almost religiously.
 

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Isn't the fact that NAFTA is crap like the oldest news on earth?
Maybe Phase II will make crap look like the 'good old days'.
Like I'm really looking forward to seeing our 'natural resources, heading south only to come back as what we would call 'goods', the money would go to the 'middle man', the one who does the least gets the most. No doubt the weapons industry will, shall we say, stay with the ones who already have them. That is why energy needs are already in place, so that machine will always be well fed.

Ottawa doesn't have any legal authority to do anything in the name 'of the people', that is still in the hands of the Provinces. Their 'hopefully valid loophole' is to make it a business deal. That might even work out for 'the people' if they went with maritime law. (disbanded all government). Each person is a separate business. At least we would only be getting one pocket fleeced rather than getting two as we get from the companies and our so called 'representatives that are there to stop all fleecing'. Now if a Province could align with one State you might have a Republic of Alberto Montano
 

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The only hope I see to stop the NAU is the Canadian people. The sheep down here in the states just keep going to the polls and voting the same "do nothing" lops back into office. Lets face it, the only thinking folks left on the North American continent are from Canada. The Mexicans are kept in the dark. The US folks don't seem to want to be bothered and the Canadians are still talking about how to head this power grab disaster off. There is so much disinformation being disseminated by the wealthy CFR that most folks are thinking it will benefit them. Believe me, it won't!
 

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Absolute bull!!

The only quack here is you Daffy....:roll:

I know you're clueless and you spit out what has been spoon fed to you, but try and research something before you start flinging insults.

The U.S. took exception to Softwood lumber and Canada took exception to Cultural Industries, how do you think you ended up with Canadian Content (no pun intended) laws?

Think about that and stop acting like a moron.
 
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Since the beginning of NAFTA both Canada and the US have experienced massive growth in wealth and currently the rates of unemployment are close to what economists would call full employment. Why did we sign this agreement indeed.
 

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Somone has to tell this quack softwood lumber was exempt from NAFTA.
I think that example is perfect to show that 'free trade' shouldn't be able to be called 'free' if there is even one exemption.
Who do you think proposed that some lumber would be exempt? It certainly wouldn't have been Canadian Companies or any agent acting on their behalf. The other possibility is the importer. Even though cheaper lumber should have meant some benefits to those that use lumber it would have caused lay-offs in their lumber industry. That would affect the profit margin for some American Company, so it got exempted.
Is it free trade if energy is already set as having it's rules? Current rules would seem to favor cheap oil to the US even if OPEC prices went through the roof.
Even that might not be totally bad if Canada got a reduction for importing some other goods that that came close to what was lost. When one party gets to set the import price and the price they get for their exports they have the best position.
Who gets to keep the tariff money? If a Canadian company has a board for sale for $10 and a tariff of $5 is imposed and a few boards are sold (rather than a lot) who gets the extra $5/board?

How does free trade work if America can impose sanctions Canada if we want to buy a cup of sugar from Cuba? (by rights it is something that they shouldn't even be able to comment on)

The creation of the nau would also mean our security would take a real dive. The little color codes the States have would not disappear, we would come under them. We would require 'protection' from those who America has deemed as being a threat to them. If those phantom enemies ever came home to roost Edmonton would be a valid target, right now nobody cares about Edmonton, other than how the hockey team is doing.
It should really be called an insecurity package since that is our direction.

If Canadians want a preview of what could happen if things did go 'wrong' take a look at the way the coal-mines were run not all that long ago. The workers got just enough to last till their next payday. That always just covered 'room and board', there was no such thing as 'saving' or 'owning'.

Is this an accurate summary of the difference between Common Law and Admiralty Law.
Common Law benefits the one who works for a company. A person is just a person, a company has different rights and obligations than a person has to the country they live in. Taxes should be paid by the companies. What shareholders take home these days should go into govt coffers. Those stupid-ass high salaries of the heads of companies should be more in line with what the lowest paid is able to purchase. Government acting properly for the people would be very effective in handling those types of issues.
Maritime Law is more or less corporate law, a company is a person with all the rights of a 'common person', not paying taxes (exemption, grants, subsidies, etc) means the greater part of any profit goes into their pockets (a few even though there are many).

I have heard that when Canada does an assessment on it's assets, they can, and do, include a 'common person' as being worth "X" dollars. At birth they estimate how much money he will make in his lifetime. (estimated from national figures, all wages/number of employed in any given year), that would seem to make us 'property of' something. It might just be a figure banks can use to determine how big a loan a country is good for in terms of being able to pay back, with interest, over many decades.

You can't argue against Maritime Law using the rules that apply to Common Law. In Maritime Law there shouldn't be any 'employees' we should all be viewed as 'independent contractors'.
 

#juan

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I know you're clueless and you spit out what has been spoon fed to you, but try and research something before you start flinging insults.

The U.S. took exception to Softwood lumber and Canada took exception to Cultural Industries, how do you think you ended up with Canadian Content (no pun intended) laws?

Think about that and stop acting like a moron.

Seems to me you started with the name-calling and insults. Retaliating with Daffy after you called me a quack is not an insult.

Dozens of accountants and lawyers argued about the softwood shmozzle for months. Every court and board ruled in our favour. Just because a weak-kneed Harper capitulated to please Bush, it doesn't make it right.
 

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Seems to me you started with the name-calling and insults. Retaliating with Daffy after you called me a quack is not an insult.

Oh I'm sorry #juan, did you write that article? Because I could swear I was quoting the author. Are you the author? :roll:

Dozens of accountants and lawyers argued about the softwood shmozzle for months. Every court and board ruled in our favour. Just because a weak-kneed Harper capitulated to please Bush, it doesn't make it right.

There are no rulings or verdicts, there are only opinions, the sooner you realize this the better off you will be.