How to recognise GOD?

Scott Free

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Pangloss[/left];923490]Scott Free:

No way, man. You said it was easy, and I'd love a revolution, so cough it up - where are we all wrong?

Pangloss

I'm sorry I shouldn't have posted anything. I just feel for people trying to find God; I know the struggle. I have spent about 20 years searching for real physical evidence.

I'm sure there is a God now but it is completely different than anything we imagine or can imagine.

I'm not saying I have found God - far from it - just that there is evidence of his existence.

See? I'm crazy.
 
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darkbeaver

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Good morning to you too DB...

Interesting subject - I love to read any interpretation of this mystery we call god - anyone who dares to examine and define this for themselves rather than accept something spoon fed to them has arrived at the truth as far as I'm concerned... for in the end, it's only our individual relationship to this word - and how we choose to allow that interpretation to influence our lives, choices and what - if any - footprint our time here leaves in our wake, that matters.

Even those who decide there really is no such thing as god have arrived at a truth - their truth - and this version of truth has been concluded, imo upon the very same reflection that drives others to determine there is an entity called god.

Who am I to conclude their truth is any less valid than mine? (This I believe, is the ultimate arrogance of organized religion – the assumption of truth on behalf of any other being.)

What drives those who do not acknowledge god as a recognizable entity in any shape whatsoever then? What 'purpose' do they assign to their existence? I don't know, but I wonder sometimes if these people are not the truest representation of god, ironically enough... for these are the people who go forth each day, doing their best, living their best for no other reason than this is how they choose to live. With no fear, guilt or outwardly imposed conventions influencing their daily choices, they exemplify all that any god could ask of us – participating in this world with all they have to give, expecting nothing in return.

For sure Zan. The truth belongs to no one it just is. an observation----having a generic spook type god relieves the adherant of responsibility in many ways.
My god, the one and only (the sun) is pure truth and power and the giver of life, and as such is not open to debate or the whims of personal choice, it offers none, it asks nothing of us, it commands obediance. It speaks all the languages its light and energy touch. It is literally in your head and heart and soul. The sun (god) is not a product of interpretation but rather of empiricle verifiable truth. If we follow the suns laws we can expect and do expect life.Organized religion has never been about god. Similarly armys have never been about peace. The sun is the god for this planet, that power controls and allows a conscience for our species which builds spirit specific to the human species, a spirit of that species generated by that species, similar for the other lifeforms on the planet and the planet itself. something like dat +or- 10%. God only gets complicated when we write huge convoluted manuals about control and regimentation and insist it's the word of god. God don't need paper and interpreters to explain that it's daytime or that it's raining or you got an empty belly eh.
IMHO I agree it's an interesting subject and deadly if you discuss it with the wrong people.
 

darkbeaver

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I'm sorry I shouldn't have posted anything. I just feel for people trying to find God; I know the struggle. I have spent about 20 years searching for real physical evidence.

I'm sure there is a God now but it is completely different than anything we imagine or can imagine.

I'm not saying I have found God - far from it - just that there is evidence of his existence.

See? I'm crazy.

If you insist on HIS existence then you are crazy indeed. That is a clue to your Judeo/Christian thinking. The patriarchal godhead is the first lie of that line. The universe is in essence female as midochondrial DNA seems to indicate. That first rib came from eve or it did not come at all.
 

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Hello again Scott:

Just what evidence would that be for the existence of god? I mean, some of the brightest minds through the ages have been looking and nobody has found anything yet. Indeed, all we ever seem to find is our desire to not die, and for something else to be in charge and take care of things for us - hence, our invented supernatural landlords.

From the gods and demigods of the cave dwellers to Scientology, all creations of our unwillingness to leave our adolescence.

Pangloss
 
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Scott Free

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If you insist on HIS existence then you are crazy indeed. That is a clue to your Judeo/Christian thinking. The patriarchal godhead is the first lie of that line. The universe is in essence female as midochondrial DNA seems to indicate. That first rib came from eve or it did not come at all.

If you read my posts carefully you'll see that I didn't say anything of the kind.

Most people think I am an atheist because I insist on evidence. I don't "believe" anything and I sure don't have faith in anything except fundamental laws of physics. I don't believe in sky gods and I think Jesus was just another name for Horus.
 

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Hello again Scott:

Just what evidence would that be for the existence of god? I mean, some of the brightest minds through the ages have been looking and nobody has found anything yet. Indeed, all we ever seem to find is our desire to not die, and for something else to be in charge and take care of things for us - hence, our invented supernatural landlords.

From the gods and demigods of the cave dwellers to Scientology, all creations of our unwillingness to leave our adolescence.

Pangloss

Wow! Do I ever agree with you! Likewise any notion of God from such a perspective has got to be wrong. We need to leave childish things behind us.
 
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talloola

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Hello again Scott:

Just what evidence would that be for the existence of god? I mean, some of the brightest minds through the ages have been looking and nobody has found anything yet. Indeed, all we ever seem to find is our desire to not die, and for something else to be in charge and take care of things for us - hence, our invented supernatural landlords.
Pangloss

It is realistic but difficult to face the fact that we 'die', but we definitely do, and that is
that. The invention of religion, as you said, is a crutch so that those who believe, don't
have to face the realism of real death. When we die we don't go anywhere, we remain
on/in this earth, which was our birth place, and natural for us to be,in death as well.
(and, that includes everything about us, heart,soul,body.) I do believe we have a soul,
and our soul is our feelings,love and compassion, and, sorry folks, we keep those with
us as well.
 
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darkbeaver

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If you read my posts carefully you'll see that I didn't say anything of the kind.

Most people think I am an atheist because I insist on evidence. I don't "believe" anything and I sure don't have faith in anything except fundamental laws of physics. I don't believe in sky gods and I think Jesus was just another name for Horus.

You said ( His) existence. So you believe in the laws of fizzics eh. How can we have (faith) in you Scott you're refuteing your own words. Horus is in the sky, ain't it?:lol:

I'm just teasing, have fun here, everybody does, I think.
 

darkbeaver

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It is realistic but difficult to face the fact that we 'die', but we definitely do, and that is
that. The invention of religion, as you said, is a crutch so that those who believe, don't
have to face the realism of real death. When we die we don't go anywhere, we remain
on/in this earth, which was our birth place, and natural for us to be,in death as well.
(and, that includes everything about us, heart,soul,body.) I do believe we have a soul,
and our soul is our feelings,love and compassion, and, sorry folks, we keep those with
us as well.

Me too talloola I'm taking my soul/spirit with me when I go to the big pond in the milky way. Just the flesh dies, the spark is eternal, I think that's what I heard, I hope I got it right.
 

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...you have chosen to use the word 'god', as your guide to being the best you can.....It is confusing me with the god the religious believe in. There has to be a different word

Yes Talloola, the etymology can make us lose sight of what it is we're trying to define. I used a small 'g' in my use of the word god to indicate I don't hold that word in the same reverence as the conventional use of it. In fact I usually spell it "gawd". :p I don't have a better word either. It's much too big to be encapsulated with such a tiny word, no?
 

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