Scott Free:
No way, man. You said it was easy, and I'd love a revolution, so cough it up - where are we all wrong?
Pangloss
No way, man. You said it was easy, and I'd love a revolution, so cough it up - where are we all wrong?
Pangloss
[LEFT said:Pangloss[/left];923490]Scott Free:
No way, man. You said it was easy, and I'd love a revolution, so cough it up - where are we all wrong?
Pangloss
Good morning to you too DB...
Interesting subject - I love to read any interpretation of this mystery we call god - anyone who dares to examine and define this for themselves rather than accept something spoon fed to them has arrived at the truth as far as I'm concerned... for in the end, it's only our individual relationship to this word - and how we choose to allow that interpretation to influence our lives, choices and what - if any - footprint our time here leaves in our wake, that matters.
Even those who decide there really is no such thing as god have arrived at a truth - their truth - and this version of truth has been concluded, imo upon the very same reflection that drives others to determine there is an entity called god.
Who am I to conclude their truth is any less valid than mine? (This I believe, is the ultimate arrogance of organized religion – the assumption of truth on behalf of any other being.)
What drives those who do not acknowledge god as a recognizable entity in any shape whatsoever then? What 'purpose' do they assign to their existence? I don't know, but I wonder sometimes if these people are not the truest representation of god, ironically enough... for these are the people who go forth each day, doing their best, living their best for no other reason than this is how they choose to live. With no fear, guilt or outwardly imposed conventions influencing their daily choices, they exemplify all that any god could ask of us – participating in this world with all they have to give, expecting nothing in return.
I'm sorry I shouldn't have posted anything. I just feel for people trying to find God; I know the struggle. I have spent about 20 years searching for real physical evidence.
I'm sure there is a God now but it is completely different than anything we imagine or can imagine.
I'm not saying I have found God - far from it - just that there is evidence of his existence.
See? I'm crazy.
If you insist on HIS existence then you are crazy indeed. That is a clue to your Judeo/Christian thinking. The patriarchal godhead is the first lie of that line. The universe is in essence female as midochondrial DNA seems to indicate. That first rib came from eve or it did not come at all.
Hello again Scott:
Just what evidence would that be for the existence of god? I mean, some of the brightest minds through the ages have been looking and nobody has found anything yet. Indeed, all we ever seem to find is our desire to not die, and for something else to be in charge and take care of things for us - hence, our invented supernatural landlords.
From the gods and demigods of the cave dwellers to Scientology, all creations of our unwillingness to leave our adolescence.
Pangloss
Hello again Scott:
Just what evidence would that be for the existence of god? I mean, some of the brightest minds through the ages have been looking and nobody has found anything yet. Indeed, all we ever seem to find is our desire to not die, and for something else to be in charge and take care of things for us - hence, our invented supernatural landlords.
Pangloss
If you read my posts carefully you'll see that I didn't say anything of the kind.
Most people think I am an atheist because I insist on evidence. I don't "believe" anything and I sure don't have faith in anything except fundamental laws of physics. I don't believe in sky gods and I think Jesus was just another name for Horus.
It is realistic but difficult to face the fact that we 'die', but we definitely do, and that is
that. The invention of religion, as you said, is a crutch so that those who believe, don't
have to face the realism of real death. When we die we don't go anywhere, we remain
on/in this earth, which was our birth place, and natural for us to be,in death as well.
(and, that includes everything about us, heart,soul,body.) I do believe we have a soul,
and our soul is our feelings,love and compassion, and, sorry folks, we keep those with
us as well.
DB:
Good of you to be gentle with SF: he hasn't even broken his 100 post cherry yet.
Noobs. Yummy, tender noobs.
Anyone call dibs yet?
Pangloss
I'll take your liver, mine's pretty much shot.
Pangloss
Zan:
Eloquent and persuasive, as usual. And I think if we worked at it just a little, we'd find we didn't disagree at all.
So there.
Pangloss
...you have chosen to use the word 'god', as your guide to being the best you can.....It is confusing me with the god the religious believe in. There has to be a different word