Accomplishments of George W Bush

Kreskin

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He lowered the value of the US dollar to help stimulate growth in response to the exporting of jobs to cheap slave-like socialized third world job markets.
 

darkbeaver

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How can we expect incomes to increase faster than inflation? A company increases it's profits by 1% but is expected to raise wages by 2% on an ongoing basis? How does that work?

100 years ago you would die from half of the medical conditions floating around. You didn't have social safety nets that you could buy more crack with, you were given a shovel and a piece of dirt and told to sink or swim. You didn't watch 40-inch high definition televisions, you found a potato and played catch. You commuted in things people today would sue over in a flash.

Today's urbanites choose to live the way they do. Anyone with nothing that chooses to live in downtown Vancouver is a fool, not a victim.

Why is thier inflation in the first place?
100 years ago cancer, heart disease, diabetes, alzhiemers all were rare.
The social safety net was the extended family which I'll remind you functioned perfectly for tens of millenia.
Todays urbanite is a result of being driven off the land during the depression and ensueing steady decline of the family farm and consequent rise of agribizz in concert with the hydro-carbon economy.
Your characterization of the poor and the homeless is perhaps a very sad reflection of the age.
Some day you may live in poverty and dispare. I wonder if you'll consider yourself a fool or a victim? I'll keep my thoughts about that to myself.
PS You don't seem to have been able to find much of benevolent accomplishment from Mr Bush

goodbye Kreskin
 

gopher

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`` PS You don't seem to have been able to find much of benevolent accomplishment from Mr Bush

goodbye Kreskin``


Is Kreskin pulling our collective leg??
 

Hazmart

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Oh I forgot. It took a lot of conviction to try to save Iraq. Perhaps some bad advice and some naivete as well. The experiment is noble. The experiment is bold. I see it as an experiment however, and that the original hypothesis is on track morally, but off track in terms of methods and candidate. The patient was DOA after 29 years of Saddam. The place is an insane asylum.

It's too bad. You can take a horse to drink, but not a dead horse.

Ok yes I guess it could be looked at as noble but I remember Bush (and Blair I think) going against the UN when this first started, and wasn't it about controling the oil, that is not nobel. But it is the past.
What are the pres. candidates talking about in regards to Iraq? Pulling out? Staying? I don't know to be honest! But don't they kind of owe it to the people of iraq to see this right? How do you fix this?
 

Kreskin

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`` He lowered the value of the US dollar``


Thereby weakening the USA economy and lowering our standard of living.
..thereby slowing the US trade deficit and thus giving the economy some chance to miss a recession.
 

gopher

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Kreskin said:
..thereby slowing the US trade deficit and thus giving the economy some chance to miss a recession.


It was a trade deficit he created in the first place as the earlier Republican deficit had been wiped out under Clinton.
 

darkbeaver

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`` PS You don't seem to have been able to find much of benevolent accomplishment from Mr Bush

goodbye Kreskin``


Is Kreskin pulling our collective leg??

And that gopher is also a sad very sad indicator of these times when one can not descern between jest and reality, I am afraid to know gopher very frightened actually.
 

Kreskin

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It was a trade deficit he created in the first place as the earlier Republican deficit had been wiped out under Clinton.
Remember Ross Perot warning about jobs getting sucked out America? That was long before GWB. How do expect to compete against cheap imports? He didn't create free trade or global trade. He inherited them.
 

Zzarchov

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Why is thier inflation in the first place?
100 years ago cancer, heart disease, diabetes, alzhiemers all were rare.

And for 2 reasons, the first is that people died long before they got old enough for it to matter (like 50), the second that no one got diagnosed. People didn't get Alzheimers, they just "got forgetful in their old age".

The social safety net was the extended family which I'll remind you functioned perfectly for tens of millenia.

And which works better now than then, since people are better off now than then.

Todays urbanite is a result of being driven off the land during the depression and ensueing steady decline of the family farm and consequent rise of agribizz in concert with the hydro-carbon economy.
Im sorry are you a farmer? Im from a farming family. I left because FARMING SUCKS. You either like it or hate it and most people hate it. Its long gruelling work, with foul odours and dangerous conditions (bulls kick you to death in one false step). And you are stuck in the middle of nowhere. You can't just zip to a bar or restaurant for a bite to eat, you can't just visit with friends of family. You gotta preplan a trip. It blows.

People left because they could. I left because I worked hard to get away and because my mother and father worked hard to give me a leg up before I was born by saving up to move away.


Your characterization of the poor and the homeless is perhaps a very sad reflection of the age.
Some day you may live in poverty and dispare. I wonder if you'll consider yourself a fool or a victim? I'll keep my thoughts about that to myself.

Been there, done that, worked my way out.



goodbye Darkbeaver.
 

gopher

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``He didn't create free trade or global trade. He inherited them.``


... from a Republican Congress whose contract on America created that mess.


oops, make that ''contract with America'' {sic}
 

Kreskin

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``He didn't create free trade or global trade. He inherited them.``


... from a Republican Congress whose contract on America created that mess.


oops, make that ''contract with America'' {sic}
..which Ross Perot debated with Clinton over.
 

jimshort19

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Beaver, "The social safety net was the extended family which I'll remind you functioned perfectly for tens of millenia. "

Zzarchov, "And which works better now than then, since people are better off now than then."

Both true, but our society is generally so affluent that family does not play the role that it used to. There are still places where family is the social safety net, and of these places it is politely and sincerely, with a wistful sigh, said that they are more family oriented. They have no choice, but we do. I've spent the last five years in the third world. Family oriented they are, but to romanticize it is like romanticizing the farm, eh Zzarchov?

Anyway, Bush put through some serious education stuff didn't he? No child left behind. And was it not on his watch that welfare rolls and unemployment declined? Is health insurance coverage not being increased? There is always some good stuff going on no matter who the leader is. But George was a loser president. Let's face it. It was you George.
 

gopher

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``was it not on his watch that welfare rolls and unemployment declined? Is health insurance coverage not being increased?``

Welfare for the poor decreased but this trend started under Clinton.

Welfare for the rich and unemployment increased under Bush.

Health insurance has greatly DECREASED under Bush.