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darkbeaver

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DB:

Is it possible to take a different meaning from all of this?

The 911 debate is avoided by those who know the physics for the well understood bending of humans to authority even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Authors whom I have read and respected for decades will not entertain conspiracy for fear of ridicule and loss of position
among them is Noam Chomsky who more than anyone provided me with answers to questions of power and it's exercise. But if I were givien the chance to speak to him I would remind him of his own superb dictums which he ignors to the puzzelment of multitudes of his devoted readers. The list is endless of those who should know better.


If Noam Chomsky and others of equal repute dismiss conspiracies about 9/11, maybe that should signal to the theorists that their ideas might need to be re-examined.

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And reexamined they were and then rereexamined with the same conclusions, no buildings have ever before or after 911 pulverized themselves in mid air and collapsed straight down at free fall speed even if they have burned for days.
 

darkbeaver

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Dark Beaver, thank goodness you are warned and aware of your darkness, that darkness that might end your quest for evolution, progress, and light.

But now Bush has bombed the World Trade Centre. Did Osama Bin Laden try to stop it? Yes, the planes, the pilots, all an elaborate charade, arranged by the CIA no doubt.

And what is next? I remember being told by a new acqaintance that the first moon landing had been faked. I've heard several people insist that the oil companies killed the 100 mpg carbereter long ago. I know that these things are not true. I just can't waste time on this nonsense. I'm not in favour of propagating these lies. No respectable news source would report this unsubstantiated fantasy, and i dopn't tune in to the tin hat news.

Respectable news source eh, give us some respectable news sources that we may bask in thier iron respectability. Bush bombed nothing, only a complete idiot would trust him with a lawnmower, however I know 300 million people who trusted him with nuclear weapons twice in sucession, coincidence, I don't think so. You may in fact know lots of things to be true, all you have to do is provide links to your bibles then maybe I'll take you as serious. I saw loads of respectable news sources report on Iraqi WMDs and today I see those same respected sources babble on incesantly about Iranian WMDs, publish or perish.:smile:
 

darkbeaver

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With all these people running for the presidency, is any work getting down in Congress?

How's it goin gopher? Is there any work done in congress at any time, seems to me thier order of every day is to line thier pockets with lobby money and babble nonesense into the idiot boxes of half the almost but not quite yet free world.what!:smile:
 

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And reexamined they were and then rereexamined with the same conclusions, no buildings have ever before or after 911 pulverized themselves in mid air and collapsed straight down at free fall speed even if they have burned for days.

Shaking my head hear and sighing. I guess we have to back to page one with you. Tell me... do ever consider the evidence to the contrary of what you want to believe?

Or should everyone here resign themselves to the fact that no matter how many conspiracy theories are disproven you will still stand by them and believe what you want to believe?
 

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Just as long as you believe there were WMD in Iraq.....

"Conspiracy Theorists Unite"..... MY GUVMINT....the gatekeepers of everything that's good and moral and just in the world....they wouldn't generate a conspiracy theory now would they.....?

Hook Line and Sinker.....
 

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Eaglesmack

Just as long as you believe there were WMD in Iraq.....

"Conspiracy Theorists Unite"..... MY GUVMINT....the gatekeepers of everything that's good and moral and just in the world....they wouldn't generate a conspiracy theory now would they.....?

Hook Line and Sinker.....

YAWN. Just as long as you believe in little green men you'll believe in the 9/11 conspiracy.
 

MikeyDB

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... and as long as you believe the propaganda of your government and your neighbors

It's so comforting to believe that the Chinese are responsible for American corporations importing cheap dangerous goods into America and lay blame at their feet isn't it?

You'll believe anything if it satisfies your fantasy about the wholesome goodness of your make-believe nation.
 

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Eaglesmack, Eaglesmack, Eaglesmack. Do you not see the connection between Obama's victory and the World Trade Centre hoax? And the Holocaust? And kosher food? And everything? Everything is united in one grand unified theory. But it's a conspiracy theory. Get the picture? Look at the face you're arguing with. Take a good look. Get the picture?

Anyway, it was a great moment to open a thread on this backwoods caucus in Iowa. If history is not in the making sir, it sure smells like it so strong I can just about taste it. And it smells like Martin Luther King's promised land, drawn so close it's under our noses.

is it not good? Is it not time?
 

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Undoubtedly Gym you believe that gods cause ocean tides right....that everything in your world that you're capable of sampling (not understand of course that's for the critical thinker...) isn't connected to anything else right....

That politics is remote and distant from economics, that spending trillions in Iraq has no relationship to dire warnings from Celucci et al. regarding missile defense strategies...that petroleum isn't the "get out of jail free" card that allows Rwandans to die by the thousands, but makes punishing rape victims perfectly acceptable....all this stuff is discrete and seperate in your mind isn't it.....

You're the perfect example of how easy it is to fool all of the people all of the time....

Just keep them focused on one little element of the world that's happening around them and they're YOURS!

Refreshingly myopic view of life you have there....
 

darkbeaver

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Shaking my head hear and sighing. I guess we have to back to page one with you. Tell me... do ever consider the evidence to the contrary of what you want to believe?

Or should everyone here resign themselves to the fact that no matter how many conspiracy theories are disproven you will still stand by them and believe what you want to believe?

Smack in a forensic investigation there are things that are considered hard physical evidence and then there's circumstantial evidence, when in the course of said investigation you encounter say millions of tons of pulverized concrete you got some good ,previously hard, hard evidence. At that point we need go no further untill we find the cause of that irrefutable evidenciary fact, the first question asked would be, what turns millions of tons of very strong, very hard, concrete into to dust. Just try and imagine how far down the list of possible causes a tiny speeding aluminum bag full of lamp fuel is. It's on page fifty-seven million right under rabid bunnies with disposable cigarrette lighters.
You know how stupid GeorgeB is right, well the people who did the job on the buildings are even stupider, they could have just lit the fuse and blown up the buildings without the HollyWood stunt of jet airliners and still blamed it on terrorists and avoided all these nasty lingering questions surrounding the complete impossibility of the official line on the whole affair, it would have been controllable and containable, they're the dumbest bunch of greedy murdering bastards you can imagine, this will never go away. But they thought they needed a bigger lie, something like overkill Smack, a vast stupid incident of overkill and it's attentant blowback. Why? It's because the greedy and evil are invariably also in the end stupid, simple as that Smack, nobody has to go any further than that dust.
 

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Smack in a forensic investigation there are things that are considered hard physical evidence and then there's circumstantial evidence, when in the course of said investigation you encounter say millions of tons of pulverized concrete you got some good ,previously hard, hard evidence. At that point we need go no further untill we find the cause of that irrefutable evidenciary fact, the first question asked would be, what turns millions of tons of very strong, very hard, concrete into to dust. Just try and imagine how far down the list of possible causes a tiny speeding aluminum bag full of lamp fuel is. It's on page fifty-seven million right under rabid bunnies with disposable cigarrette lighters.
You know how stupid GeorgeB is right, well the people who did the job on the buildings are even stupider, they could have just lit the fuse and blown up the buildings without the HollyWood stunt of jet airliners and still blamed it on terrorists and avoided all these nasty lingering questions surrounding the complete impossibility of the official line on the whole affair, it would have been controllable and containable, they're the dumbest bunch of greedy murdering bastards you can imagine, this will never go away. But they thought they needed a bigger lie, something like overkill Smack, a vast stupid incident of overkill and it's attentant blowback. Why? It's because the greedy and evil are invariably also in the end stupid, simple as that Smack, nobody has to go any further than that dust.

Or...perhaps planes flown by Al-Queda terrorist actually crashed into the buildings causing them to fall. There is irrefutable evidence that points to that. You just want to believe that the CIA did it.

Once again I ask you. Where are the people that were on the planes?
 

darkbeaver

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Or...perhaps planes flown by Al-Queda terrorist actually crashed into the buildings causing them to fall. There is irrefutable evidence that points to that. You just want to believe that the CIA did it.

Once again I ask you. Where are the people that were on the planes?

Refute the dust thomaska, don't bother refuting me.The people if there were any will likely be found among the dust particles, with thier cell phones.Why don't we have an investigation just so you can finally shut the conspiracy nuts up? And nobody mentioned the CIA except you thomaska. I believe that terrorists did it
 

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Refute the dust thomaska, don't bother refuting me.The people if there were any will likely be found among the dust particles, with thier cell phones.Why don't we have an investigation just so you can finally shut the conspiracy nuts up? And nobody mentioned the CIA except you thomaska. I believe that terrorists did it

They had an investigation. Conspiracy folks didn't like it. If they had another they would not like that either unless it said what they wanted to say.

Are you insinuating that Thomaska and I are the same person?
 

darkbeaver

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They had an investigation. Conspiracy folks didn't like it. If they had another they would not like that either unless it said what they wanted to say.

Are you insinuating that Thomaska and I are the same person?

No Smack I'm not insinuating anything, I made a mistake eh. And anyway all you yanks lok the same.