Canada praised for climate leadership @ APEC

CDNBear

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you are easy to get lost in Bear.....You diss Trudeau, praise Mike Harris, think Harper is the right guy in parliment....
I would love to see where I praised Harris. Harpo and company are in the right place at the right time...

As Robin Williams said in the movie "Man of the year"..."Politicians, like dirty diapers should be changed often...and for the same reason."

The same can be applied to political parties just as easily.

This is the problem with a free thinker who for some reason has abadonned his common sense to take up the cause of conservative party, try to right the thing, and fail to see the merit of the Liberal party of Canada....
Think of me as trying more to keep you honest then taking up the cause of one party over another...Shall I tell you who I won't be voting for in the next Ontario elections...John Tory.
I think you are a very confused individual when it comes to politics...somewhere you made the wrong choice and you know it....so all this anger comes across everyone's screen.....
besides that...i don't know why but i like you as a poster.....
You're still just confused...don't worry...it'll take.
I mean i can't buy this sort of stuff to post off of....
i mean trying to to make right the conservative party..heh heh....it's ruining your life man....but it makes for great fun for us....
Glad to be of assistance ;-)
 
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I would love to see where I praised Harris. Harpo and company are in the right place at the right time...

As Robin Williams said in the movie "Man of the year"..."Politicians, like dirty diapers should be changed often...and for the same reason."

The same can be applied to political parties just as easily.

Think of me as trying more to keep you honest then taking up the cause of one party over another...Shall I tell you who I won't be voting for in the next Ontario elections...John Tory.
You're still just confused...don't worry...it'll take.
Glad to be of assistance ;-)

OK OK I CONCEDE!!! who is this masked man then....i apologise for getting you all wrong...i'll start over and read with more care.....
sorry
 
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Good call...


It's not a mask...it's fur...

And for the record, I do not use political ideology to formulate my thoughts.

Ok well how in the hell i thought you were a conservative bent sort of voting guy i dunno...
before i go assuming all over again can i hear you say you think the present state of conservative party in canada are all vermin ...sort of make it simple all for ole doc assumption here.....Now i have you clear on the liberal stance...i don't get why you don't love them...they really are the Canadian ideal..i know my political views are ruined now that i went and read you all wrong...but have some pity on this guy and post some real down home anti conservatism for ole doc here...like you do the liberal schtick.....

it would make my day
 

CDNBear

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Ok well how in the hell i thought you were a conservative bent sort of voting guy i dunno...
As many have you tried to apply an ideology to my thinking and made assumptions on evidence not in record.
before i go assuming all over again can i hear you say you think the present state of conservative party in canada are all vermin ...
Not in your wildest dreams.

sort of make it simple all for ole doc assumption here.....
I'm not that easy going...

Now i have you clear on the liberal stance...
I doubt you do...I believe whole heartedly in the LPoC's stance on Gay marriage, some social programming and reforms, but my contempt for their criminalty, desimation of our Armed Forces(and yes I am aware of Mulroney's hand at kicking us around) and the "We know what's best for you" mentality disgusts me to no end.
i don't get why you don't love them...
Answered already...
they really are the Canadian ideal..
If the Canadian "ideal" is about awarding sloth, promoting mediocraty, sleaze, theft and self righteousness, then you would be correct.
i know my political views are ruined now that i went and read you all wrong...
Really?

but have some pity on this guy and post some real down home anti conservatism for ole doc here...
I have...I've posted several scathing commentaries on Harpo's pandering to Kebec, his postponing of Parliament, his lack of quick action on the Arctic soveriegnty issue, his slow process of rebuilding the CDN Armed Forces, and so on...I callem as I see'em. No ideology involved...

like you do the liberal schtick.....
I can't help that, most of the Conservatives I've met are freely able to accept the foibles, follies and malfeasences of the CPoC. Unlike the lovers of the LPoC and the Trudeaumaniacs, that justify, deflect, excuse and outright turn a blind eye to the corruption, sleaze and pathetic pasts and present personality flaws in the party of their choice.
it would make my day
Sorry, not in the cards...

But like I've said before, when the CPoC catches up to the LPoC in criminality, or someone catches Harpo or one of his cronies freebasing a kitten, while jerking off to kiddie porn in a Parliament bathroom, I'll be all over them. Like a fat kid on a green M&M.
 

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Still does nothing to bring the biggest emmiter of GHG on side and is no where near aggressive enough.
 

CDNBear

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Because they are and are planning to create more pollution...

The pollution that has been and is being spewed into the environment is detrimental to the planet. Ground water and soil contanination, the seas puking up all sorts of toxins and garbage, the air quality and toxicity.

It all adds up.

Something complex and indepth needs to be done to combat global pollution, without driving us into a depression.
 

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I agree, something needs to be done about Chinese present and proposed emmissions.

The developing nations aren't going to sign on to any emmissions control protocol if the nations that are responsible for most of the excess CO2 in the first place aren't willing to accept responsibility.

All this talk about intensity and voluntary limits are a joke, the energy sector is going to keep making a killing until they're forced to change or it's too late to do anything about it...and time is running out.

Suzuki and Gore have revealed the Harper government for what it is, a shill for the oil lobby.
 

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The developing nations aren't going to sign on to any emmissions control protocol if the nations that are responsible for most of the excess CO2 in the first place aren't willing to accept responsibility.

All this talk about intensity and voluntary limits are a joke, the energy sector is going to keep making a killing until they're forced to change or it's too late to do anything about it...and time is running out.

Suzuki and Gore have revealed the Harper government for what it is, a shill for the oil lobby.
And if Suzuki and Gore put forth a reasoned debate, complete with truth, and addressed the whole of the pollution problems the planet faces...I'ld buy their wares...Until then...They're socialist shills of their own.
 

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Because they are and are planning to create more pollution...

The pollution that has been and is being spewed into the environment is detrimental to the planet. Ground water and soil contanination, the seas puking up all sorts of toxins and garbage, the air quality and toxicity.

It all adds up.

Something complex and indepth needs to be done to combat global pollution, without driving us into a depression.

Surley what happens in China can't affect us.
 

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And if Suzuki and Gore put forth a reasoned debate, complete with truth, and addressed the whole of the pollution problems the planet faces...I'ld buy their wares...Until then...They're socialist shills of their own.

Even though these two individuals have been combating pollution for over 30 years?

Peel away the layers and we see ideology for what it is eh bear.:lol:
 

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And if Suzuki and Gore put forth a reasoned debate, complete with truth, and addressed the whole of the pollution problems the planet faces...I'ld buy their wares...Until then...They're socialist shills of their own.

The bastards, they want us to have clean air, water, soil, oceans etc... and more than just a handful of species leftover. Why can't they just be quiet and let us kill ourselves off as effeciently as we've been doing.:lol:
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Really?

How?

Gore has been working in politics for decades to bring Global Warming onto the agenda and Suzuki has been a researcher and educator on the environment for decades also. I'd believe what they had to say over people who are more concerned with proping up an industrial system that is clearly unsustainable.
 

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This is particularly upsetting to me. If I am to treat Skeptics with a skeptical eye myself, being critical of any mistake, how then can I turn around and not do the same for Gore, or Suzuki, who have taken liberties? Doesn't matter that they're on "my" side, this issue is too important to treat without an even hand. It's political enough without giving loud mouthed media darling fools the microphone. This is as true for the greens as it is for the skeptics.
 

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Gore has been working in politics for decades to bring Global Warming onto the agenda
I must admit that I am most and very surprised too, to hear that.

Wherever did he find the time while inventing the net and being a particularly useless VP, a Slick Willie supporter, and a failure with his vision to take the red tape out of Washington, to set up a company where he can purchase credits from himself all the while jet setting and H2ing all over the place.

What an amazing chap he is!
 

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I must admit that I am most and very surprised too, to hear that.

Wherever did he find the time while inventing the net and being a particularly useless VP, a Slick Willie supporter, and a failure with his vision to take the red tape out of Washington, to set up a company where he can purchase credits from himself all the while jet setting and H2ing all over the place.

What an amazing chap he is!

Since being a Congressman in the seventies he's been trying to bring this issue to the forefront, long before almost anyone knew it was even important. Probably why right-wingnuts like you and so many others feel threatened by him. Your days of unlimited oil production would be over if he got into power.

Gore rules, Bush sucks diesel exhaust.
 

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This is particularly upsetting to me. If I am to treat Skeptics with a skeptical eye myself, being critical of any mistake, how then can I turn around and not do the same for Gore, or Suzuki, who have taken liberties? Doesn't matter that they're on "my" side, this issue is too important to treat without an even hand. It's political enough without giving loud mouthed media darling fools the microphone. This is as true for the greens as it is for the skeptics.

Tonington

The issue is far too important to have flawed individuals stumping around making a living off it....