Public executions in Iran as seven hang for rape and robbery

lone wolf

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Somebody tell me how a thong ... er ... flip-flop manages to remain on the foot during the sudden deceleration at the end of a rope when I was forever having to kick mine back on while walking????

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Walter

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The rapists should be hanged by the offending appendage.
 

William Ashley

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I think fundamentally agreed resolution, exile or death are the only reasonable setences - prison is a waste of resources.

however I think we carefully need to examine what is required to protect society - and we need to examine issues based on undisputable instances not hearsay and possibility.

I think murder is looked at far harsher than it was in the past - almost mystefied due to the extension of life these days with modern medicine etc...

I don't see why property crimes deserve death if the property is returned an undamaged.

but I think that there really is no differnce, a crime is a crime if intended - there is no worse or better crime they are all wrongs against society if done so intentionally to enhance the self and harm another member.

I think jail time is WORSE than death. As death is a liberation from a totalitarian and limiting world.
 

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I think fundamentally agreed resolution, exile or death are the only reasonable setences - prison is a waste of resources.

however I think we carefully need to examine what is required to protect society - and we need to examine issues based on undisputable instances not hearsay and possibility.

I think murder is looked at far harsher than it was in the past - almost mystefied due to the extension of life these days with modern medicine etc...

I don't see why property crimes deserve death if the property is returned an undamaged.

but I think that there really is no differnce, a crime is a crime if intended - there is no worse or better crime they are all wrongs against society if done so intentionally to enhance the self and harm another member.

I think jail time is WORSE than death. As death is a liberation from a totalitarian and limiting world.

I think we have enough options to rule out killing someone who isn't a direct and immediate threat to us. That we are also prone to making mistakes should tell us that we shouldn't make any final decisions that we just can't fix.
If the death penalty were a deterent, then there would be no killings in death penalty states and countries. Yet there are plenty. Not to mention the countries that use this harshest for of punishment look more and more like dictatorships the closer you investigate them.

Some people just need someone to set them straight and mentor them for a few years until they can get their wheels under them. Others need to have someone looking over their shoulder all the time, but do pretty good in that sort of organized setting. But they all can be productive and for the most part carry their own weight. And that takes the pressure off of the rest of us.

This is why I've suggested in the past that military service should be manditory in Canada. This would give that opportunity for a strictly regulated institution could instill strict disipline and routines that work in far more youth than we presently do. Not to mention the ability to put boots on the ground in parts of the country that need attention like the North at the moment.
 

Ariadne

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How come their shoes don't fall off? Is the photo from before they were dead?

Is it right to question the laws of other countries? Look what happened in Iraq. The US decided that their laws were better for the Iraqi people than the laws that had emerged over centuries. Not a good result. If one is to assume that their laws are better, what actions are justified? Behavior modification?

I don't know about complaining about this whole scenario. The US has capital punishment, thus setting an example for places like Iran. Whether the execution is a public hanging or an electrifying, head burning experience, what difference does it make? Whether it is a rape conviction or retarded people committing murder, does it really matter? If anyone wants to make a difference in capital punishment, then the US is the place to set a better example. Until such time that the US gives up "an eye for an eye" attitude, no other country will accept that they should.

Furthermore, rape is extremely difficult to prove in a Muslim society so, if the person is a rapist, I bet it was pretty bad.
 

Ariadne

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I think we have enough options to rule out killing someone who isn't a direct and immediate threat to us. That we are also prone to making mistakes should tell us that we shouldn't make any final decisions that we just can't fix.
If the death penalty were a deterent, then there would be no killings in death penalty states and countries. Yet there are plenty. Not to mention the countries that use this harshest for of punishment look more and more like dictatorships the closer you investigate them.

Some people just need someone to set them straight and mentor them for a few years until they can get their wheels under them. Others need to have someone looking over their shoulder all the time, but do pretty good in that sort of organized setting. But they all can be productive and for the most part carry their own weight. And that takes the pressure off of the rest of us.

This is why I've suggested in the past that military service should be manditory in Canada. This would give that opportunity for a strictly regulated institution could instill strict disipline and routines that work in far more youth than we presently do. Not to mention the ability to put boots on the ground in parts of the country that need attention like the North at the moment.

"Not to mention the countries that use this harshest for of punishment look more and more like dictatorships the closer you investigate them" - like the US?

Who should set their wheels on straight? The US?
 

Unforgiven

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"Not to mention the countries that use this harshest for of punishment look more and more like dictatorships the closer you investigate them" - like the US?

Who should set their wheels on straight? The US?

"No body tells the US of A what to do buster!"
Yeah the US is a good example of that. Land of the free home of the brave and all that. Breaking international laws, refusing to recognize a world court in fear of being brought to stand before it. Having to wear a disguise just to go on holiday outside the country. "We can arrest and hold you as long as we want without charges because we are protecting our country." Canada is so envious we'll try to ape them too.

Who's rockin' that Patriot Act?
 

Walter

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If the death penalty were a deterent, then there would be no killings in death penalty states and countries.
I believe the death penalty is not a very good deterrent, but it's a great punishment and a guarantee that the murderer will not do it again.
 

Unforgiven

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I believe the death penalty is not a very good deterrent, but it's a great punishment and a guarantee that the murderer will not do it again.

Of course it also means that once you go so far in a crime, there is no point in stopping there cause you are going to die no matter how many people you kill.
The only way you can get out of it is to escape and the psychology of a person who has no hope is vastly different from the one of a person with slight hope.