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Is there a God ?
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I don't believe that because there is not a god, that means there is 'nothing', there is everything, and
we can see it, live on it, walk on it, nourish it, and love it.
Our earth is real, and is 'everything', god is a figment of the imagination, in my opinion.
There was living beings and other life, millions of years ago, long before any god was 'created', by
humans.
we can see it, live on it, walk on it, nourish it, and love it.
Our earth is real, and is 'everything', god is a figment of the imagination, in my opinion.
There was living beings and other life, millions of years ago, long before any god was 'created', by
humans.
I can understand the mind of a baby who knows nothing and in whose mind can be manipulated.
Consider Adam and Eve as one living soul who was created perfect, without flaws and with a mind as you described (Or as like a baby’s mind) and then give introduce knowledge to that soul and see if it does not become corrupted.
Corrupted; in the sense that now that soul knows the difference between good and evil.
We all were corrupted with whatever knowledge we gained from the present, the past and can only see to discern with what we have in our stored knowledge.
For many, that knowledge becomes walls by and in which form as a sense protection against any new knowledge that might be threatening to that which we already know.
China is speaking of first tearing down those walls before anything of truth can be digested, I believe he is saying.
And I tend to agree to a point; in that knowledge of Godly things are always evolving, much as a child is growing towards maturity.
We both think with the mind of the flesh and with the mind of the spirit. The mind of the flesh, minds only that which belongs to the flesh, while the mind of the spirit, only which belong to the spirit.
If the mind of the flesh rules the spirit mind then it becomes blinded to the things of the spirit.
Much as like; us seeing Jesus as a man and not as a spirit God.
The renewing of the spirit mind by the spirit of God is where perfection lies, as then we become like He is.
Peace>>>AJ
A baby is born long before it can receive meat to eat, does that mean that that meat does not exist?
Up and until the child has grown to a certain age, can it eat meat comfortable.
Meat always existed, yet it did not enter into the mouth of the child until due time, when the child was able to chew and digest it.
Belief in an unknown spirit entity produced a surmountable amount of different gods of worship, and it wasn't until God saw that it was time to introduce Himself to mankind by first speaking to Abraham.
Abraham was a gentile and righteousness was reckoned on him by faith. This was a taste of the real God-in-man reconciling the lost world back to God.
The real God of all creation revealed in due time where mankind could set their faith on and find the true God which can only exist in the mind of our spirit.
So the battle has been on ever since for the mind of the spirit.
Peace>>>AJ
Up and until the child has grown to a certain age, can it eat meat comfortable.
Meat always existed, yet it did not enter into the mouth of the child until due time, when the child was able to chew and digest it.
Belief in an unknown spirit entity produced a surmountable amount of different gods of worship, and it wasn't until God saw that it was time to introduce Himself to mankind by first speaking to Abraham.
Abraham was a gentile and righteousness was reckoned on him by faith. This was a taste of the real God-in-man reconciling the lost world back to God.
The real God of all creation revealed in due time where mankind could set their faith on and find the true God which can only exist in the mind of our spirit.
So the battle has been on ever since for the mind of the spirit.
Peace>>>AJ
God? I hope there is and there should be.
Whether He's understood by Scripture or Koran or Talmud or whatever, I think most people have their own personal concept of who He is.
Even atheists.
The human mind is so rich, the world so gifted and our time sharing both so short it would be impossible not to consider His existence.
Whether He's understood by Scripture or Koran or Talmud or whatever, I think most people have their own personal concept of who He is.
Even atheists.
The human mind is so rich, the world so gifted and our time sharing both so short it would be impossible not to consider His existence.
Joe, now that was just mean, petty and uncalled for. My feelings are all bruised.
Pangloss
Not impossible at all, very easy and natural. If you believe in a god, and find it easy and a natural
belief,then, just think of me in the same sense, believing the exact opposite.
Respect for each others beliefs is a key point in making this place a better world.
Share one’s beliefs, but impose them on no one.
Peace>>>AJ
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When you say ‘I know’, you are on the path of non-intelligence; but when you say ‘I don’t know’, and really mean it, you have already started on the path of intelligence. When a man doesn’t know, he looks, listens, inquires. “To know’ is to accumulate, and he who accumulates will never know: he is not intelligent.Nor has intelligence to do with intellectual or any other capacity.Capacity is not intelligence. Intelligence is sensitive awareness of the totality of life; life with its problems, contradictions, miseries, joys. To be aware of all this, without choice and without being caught up in any one of its issues and to flow with the whole of life is intelligence.
When you say ‘I know’, you are on the path of non-intelligence; but when you say ‘I don’t know’, and really mean it, you have already started on the path of intelligence. When a man doesn’t know, he looks, listens, inquires. “To know’ is to accumulate, and he who accumulates will never know: he is not intelligent.Nor has intelligence to do with intellectual or any other capacity.Capacity is not intelligence. Intelligence is sensitive awareness of the totality of life; life with its problems, contradictions, miseries, joys. To be aware of all this, without choice and without being caught up in any one of its issues and to flow with the whole of life is intelligence.
Unforgiven,
You realize that there is no "I" and you stop asking stupid questions...... perhaps.
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If i may unforgiven ...i think what unf was trying to get across here china was when one does learn something there is realization....or at the moment of realization there is learning.
unf this is conventional thinking.
If I may china....china you are trying to use esoteric thinking to throw us somewhere ...right? ...yes /no
If i may furhter say something china.....In answering Unforgiven's question you sort of jumped to the last sentence in an esoteric teaching.
just me 2 cents.....i was enjoying this and felt a need to keep it going and hopefully i did see a lil something here that needed to be said.
DocDred,
If I knew what the answer to that question is , could I explain it to others ?
would any one understand ? would I even be here? .I don't know.
I don't think there is anything esoteric about my posts ,Doc ,I'm just writing ,copying and learning .
If I knew what the answer to that question is , could I explain it to others ?
would any one understand ? would I even be here? .I don't know.
I don't think there is anything esoteric about my posts ,Doc ,I'm just writing ,copying and learning .
Judging from your last response to me, you're post is clearly esoteric and reeks of elitism. Much like the problems of all other religions, your's too fall into the same trap of ill-equiped teacher frustrated and angry over the questions they can't answer.
So ends the story of China.
UNFORGIVEN,
You are wrong as always.That is clearly a sensual response which reeks a sexualisim .I know ,I"ve written it.
Mister ,there was never any beginning of China and so obviously there wont be and end and that seems to me would be beyond your understanding.No problem , we all evolve one way or another .
You are wrong as always.That is clearly a sensual response which reeks a sexualisim .I know ,I"ve written it.
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Have it your way China. You don't know me from Adam and so, your judgement stands as testement to your own shorth comings.
Adios amigo. :roll:
psssst china......"Lost in translation maybe"......??
Esotericism refers to the doctrines or practices of esoteric knowledge, or otherwise the quality or state of being described as esoteric, or obscure.[1] Esoteric knowledge is that which is specialized or advanced in nature, available only to a narrow circle of "enlightened", "initiated", or highly educated people.[2] Items pertaining to esotericism may be known as esoterica.[3] Some interpretations of esotericism are very broad and include even unconventional and non-scientific belief systems. In contrast, exoteric knowledge is knowledge that is well-known or public.
Esotericism refers to the doctrines or practices of esoteric knowledge, or otherwise the quality or state of being described as esoteric, or obscure.[1] Esoteric knowledge is that which is specialized or advanced in nature, available only to a narrow circle of "enlightened", "initiated", or highly educated people.[2] Items pertaining to esotericism may be known as esoterica.[3] Some interpretations of esotericism are very broad and include even unconventional and non-scientific belief systems. In contrast, exoteric knowledge is knowledge that is well-known or public.
God is a green woman, I have chased her in my forest, she won't slow down for me but smiles an invitation so I'll chase her again tomorrow.