Bono, Geldof slam Canada as a 'laggard' on African aid

[BitWhys]

Well, I'm not really sure I'm "supposed" to be doing anything of the sort, but even we take what you say as a given, it's got nothing to do with non-sequitur....I wasn't even making an argument let alone a fallacious one. As for as hominum, if there was any it was very subtle. So subtle that even I was unaware of it.

The only way you saying "its not very often I see somebody manage to get so non sequitur and ad hominem at the same time" makes any sense is if you meant it as a lesson in irony.

please

check the quote you attacked that started this. Harper's being elected doesn't have anything to do with whether other spokespeople are credible or not. and if you can't figure out all you're doing is slagging the messenger too bad.

 

[BitWhys]

Who said anything about his label?

then who paid them under contract to attend the G8?

 

[gc]

If you think you've contributed more to the cause than he has whale away otherwise quit your wailing.

If I had nearly as much money as Bono, I would have contributed much more than him. For a millionaire to tell the average Canadian barely scraping by to donate more is extremely hypocritical. Again, when he has as much money as I do, he can whale away...otherwise he can quit his wailing.

 

[BitWhys]

If I had nearly as much money as Bono, I would have contributed much more than him...

and that would be more than how much, exactly? you make it sound like he's shaking us down for loose change. if Canada can't pony up, nobody can.

 

[Just the Facts]

please

check the quote you attacked that started this. Harper's being elected doesn't have anything to do with whether other spokespeople are credible or not. and if you can't figure out all you're doing is slagging the messenger too bad.

Where did I say that? And how would it be slagging the messenger even if I did? Or are you presenting a lesson in Straw Man now?

Talk about eye on the ball.

My only point was that Harper doesn't need credibility. He's the Prime Minister, ergo the decision maker. That's all. Nothing to do with anyone else's credilibility. Just his. Period.

As for Ad hominem, that would be something like this:

Who the heck are you to talk about credibility anyway! I challenged you almost a year ago to send money to help in Afghanistan after you were ragging about the failing mission running out of funds, and you never even responded, let alone declined! So don't talk to me about credibility!!

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/c...-more-afganistan-threads-well-one-more-3.html

Bitwhys, from your link:
Perhaps enough donations will be received to cut WFP’s huge funding gap – and ensure that the agency can provide aid to all 3.5 million needy Afghans this year.
I'll send in $100.00 if you will. Lets put our money where their mouths are!

See, that would be ad hominem.

 

[tracy]

and that would be more than how much, exactly? you make it sound like he's shaking us down for loose change. if Canada can't pony up, nobody can.

This is the problem I have with opponents of aiding Africans. Even the poorest person in Canada is rich in comparison to those living in some of those third world nations. How rich do we have to be before we have enough for ourselves to share with the poorest people in the world?

 

[Just the Facts]

This is the problem I have with opponents of aiding Africans. Even the poorest person in Canada is rich in comparison to those living in some of those third world nations. How rich do we have to be before we have enough for ourselves to share with the poorest people in the world?

Maybe I should redirect my above noted challenge from Afghanistan to Africa. So, since we're all about helping the poor, I'll send $100.00 to Bono's cause if you guys will. Any takers?

 

[BitWhys]

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As for Ad hominem, that would be something like this:



See, that would be ad hominem.

no

that would be a personal attack. I'm not the messenger here.

 

[tracy]

Maybe I should redirect my above noted challenge from Afghanistan to Africa. So, since we're all about helping the poor, I'll send $100.00 to Bono's cause if you guys will. Any takers?

Got a link? If you don't, I know a very good charity in Africa that gives surgery to women with fistulas. It's easy to repair, but if it isn't, the woman is basically ostracized from her community.

 

[Just the Facts]

Got a link? If you don't, I know a very good charity in Africa that gives surgery to women with fistulas. It's easy to repair, but if it isn't, the woman is basically ostracized from her community.

Lay it on me.

 

[tracy]

Lay it on me.

http://www.fistulafoundation.org/

It's not a glamorous cause or anything, but the surgery literally changes the woman's life.

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[tracy]

If 5 of us gave 90$, that would pay for one woman's surgery and post operative care, buy her a new dress and a bus ticket home.

 

[gc]

if Canada can't pony up, nobody can.

Better yet, if multi-millionaires can't pony up, nobody can.

 

[gc]

This is the problem I have with opponents of aiding Africans. Even the poorest person in Canada is rich in comparison to those living in some of those third world nations. How rich do we have to be before we have enough for ourselves to share with the poorest people in the world?

Don't get me wrong, I think Africa is a great cause, and I have donated to the cause myself. What I have a problem with is millionaires lecturing me (as a taxpayer) that I am not doing enough. How rich I am compared to Africans is about how rich Bono is compared to me.

 

[BitWhys]

Better yet, if multi-millionaires can't pony up, nobody can.

I can see how that would be better if you're looking for an excuse for Canada's not meeting its commitments but I don't buy it.

 

[BitWhys]

...What I have a problem with is millionaires lecturing me (as a taxpayer) that I am not doing enough...

You really shouldn't take what they said about Harper's behavior so personally. They actually went quite easy on Canada the collective.

 

[gc]

I can see how that would be better if you're looking for an excuse for Canada's not meeting its commitments but I don't buy it.

I never said anything even remotely close to that. Please try to keep a little honesty in this debate.

 

[gc]

You really shouldn't take what they said about Harper's behavior so personally. They actually went quite easy on Canada the collective.

You really shouldn't take what I am saying about Bono so personally...

 

[BitWhys]

I never said anything even remotely close to that. Please try to keep a little honesty in this debate.

Then what's "better" about it?

 

[Just the Facts]

If 5 of us gave 90$, that would pay for one woman's surgery and post operative care, buy her a new dress and a bus ticket home.

Are you talking about going splits on the love-a-sister one, or just what the money would buy in general?