Republican slams iraqi governement

[Logic 7]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top-ranking Republican in the U.S. Senate on Sunday expressed frustration with the Iraqi government, saying Republicans were "overwhelmingly disappointed" with the lack of political progress.

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"The Iraqi government is a huge disappointment," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (news, bio, voting record) told CNN'S Late Edition on Sunday.

"So far, they've not been able do anything they promised on the political side," the Kentucky Republican said, citing the Iraqis' failure to pass a new oil revenue bill, hold local elections and dismantle the former Baath Party of Saddam Hussein. "It's a growing frustration."

Poor little boy, they can't get their new oil revenue bill, that is really bad, i feel very sad for him :angry3:

McConnell made no apology for the U.S. invasion in Iraq and Afghanistan following the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

When an american talks, nobody should expect a nobel price, it is the way they are.

"I think Republicans believe overwhelmingly, is that the decision to get on offense in the war on terror after 9/11 in Afghanistan and Iraq has protected us fully here at home," McConnell said.

"What we are all discovering, however, it's very difficult to set up a functioning government in places like Iraq and Afghanistan."

The United States should consider whether the threat from al Qaeda would be increased at home if its troops withdrew from Iraq, he said.

"If we give up prematurely, we go home, declare it over, will they be back here on the -- in our own country?" McConnell said. "And I think the chances of that are overwhelmingly likely."

He is telling americans, give us what we want to stay in iraq, or we will do other terrorist attack.


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[jimmoyer]

We REpublicans and conservatives got a rude awakening (one of many) that the Baghdad government is going to take a 2 month vacation right during the Surge where our sons and daughters are going to die for them.

Meanwhile they will also not adopt the Alaska plan whereby every citizen gets paid a check from oil revenue.

Disgusting.

The rest of the world was right.

 

[flipside]

just pathetic..

blow the crap out of a country and then expect everything to go your way.

At this point I hope we all suffer here with oil shortages and sky high prices we deserve it... As citizens we might think not, but allowing our governments to become so corrupt and intentionally hurt others either economically or with brute force the resposibility lays on all of us.

Its our responsibility to stand up, and stand together more powerful than ever.

 

[Just the Facts]

just pathetic..

blow the crap out of a country and then expect everything to go your way.

Not to be a stickler for detail, but it seems to me that the vast majority of the crap being blown out of the country is being done by the "insurgents". As far as the U.S. is concerned, the war against Iraq ended almost 4 years ago. They've been trying to rebuild but someone keeps "blowing the crap" out of the infrastructure faster than they can repair it.

I wonder how the insurgents define "go your way".

Things that make me go hmmm....

 

[flipside]

Not to be a stickler for detail, but it seems to me that the vast majority of the crap being blown out of the country is being done by the "insurgents". As far as the U.S. is concerned, the war against Iraq ended almost 4 years ago. They've been trying to rebuild but someone keeps "blowing the crap" out of the infrastructure faster than they can repair it.

I wonder how the insurgents define "go your way".

Things that make me go hmmm....

You are correct in some way.. but these "insurgents" can only dream of doing the damage a super power can.
I don't think they can even come close.

 

[gopher]

Bush's war of imperialistic terrorism is an unjust and criminal war. Defending him is defending treason.

 

[talloola]

Yup, just as I said a couple of months ago, the republicans will slowly shift all of the blame onto the
Iraqi government, and finally when the U.S. has no choice, 'according to republicans', they will pull
out and state that the Iraqi government didn't live up to it's bargain. They will claim that they did
everything they could, but just didn't get any support from the Iraqis.
It's os obvious, they aren't fooling anyone.

 

[Logic 7]

We REpublicans and conservatives got a rude awakening (one of many) that the Baghdad government is going to take a 2 month vacation right during the Surge where our sons and daughters are going to die for them.

Meanwhile they will also not adopt the Alaska plan whereby every citizen gets paid a check from oil revenue.

Disgusting.

The rest of the world was right.

Poor sons and daughters who dies for the american coorporation, disgusting, absolutly, the rest of the world was right.

 

[jimmoyer]

the republicans will slowly shift all of the blame onto the
Iraqi government, and finally when the U.S. has no choice, 'according to republicans', they will pull
out and state that the Iraqi government didn't live up to it's bargain. They will claim that they did
everything they could, but just didn't get any support from the Iraqis.
It's os obvious, they aren't fooling anyone.
-------------------------------------------------------------talloola---------------------------------------------

On the other hand, if the person you are fighting for takes a break and gets a lollipop while you are fighting his enemy ---- maybe you would find no reason to continue fighting.

On top of Baghdad government wanting a 2 month vacation in the midst of an American surge in troops culminating in September for Ramadan, you do wonder if all is lost.

What a mess.

 

[MikeyDB]

Another fine American product. Arm them then call them a danger to the world...invade them and kill a few hundred thousand then whine that you're getting body-bags at home...

America is the enemy. From the time that the "big-stick" mentality impressed the American people as the assurance of their absolute right to wage war and destruction on anyone in the name of greed....

Luckily the greed of mankind as epitomized by America is finally closing the book on this little planet and global climate change will perhaps change perspectives enthralled with consumption and greed regardless of the millions that have to die....

 

[thomaska]

Poor little boy, they can't get their new oil revenue bill, that is really bad, i feel very sad for him :angry3:







When an american talks, nobody should expect a nobel price, it is the way they are.









He is telling americans, give us what we want to stay in iraq, or we will do other terrorist attack.


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All I saw in Iraq was an entire culture mired in the 7th century. Unwilling and unable to change.


All of you cry-babies on the forums have no ideas about how to fix anything, only criticisms.

You're no better than the politicians you scathingly review from the safety of your couches and high speed internet connections.

ukeleft:

Your microcephallic rants about war for oil, and conspiracies made for entertaining reading two years ago, but since there has been no end to it, one can only conclude that you are indeed living in a tin-foil gilded bunker. Either that, or you just enjoy the "troll"

Either way, you are the "short-bus" on the internet superhighway.:smile:

 

[mabudon]

Well, that was a constructive post Thomskka, thanks for showing us losers how to REALLY make a difference.

Oh BTW that was sarcastic, ya F-in Troll

I am glad the US is in decline, The "solution" that the trol idots always blame folks for somehow not having has been posted many many times. The US needs to get back to minding its own business period.

I suppose the cavemen in Iraq only had stone PCs with stone monitors. How anyone can be so stupid as the previous poster (talking about Thomaska) and smugly state that a country sch as Iraq is somehow "primitive" is totally baffling to me- but then I guess stupid people and their actions should confound the intelligent ones eh?

 

[MikeyDB]

"All I saw in Iraq was an entire culture mired in the 7th century. Unwilling and unable to change."
"All of you cry-babies on the forums have no ideas about how to fix anything, only criticisms."

"You're no better than the politicians you scathingly review from the safety of your couches and high speed internet connections."


All you saw in Iraq eh?

So their being mired in a 7th century mindset legitimizes you providing them with weapons to kill Iranians? You felt your nation was perfectly entitled to kill hundreds upon thousands of them because of their mindset as opposed to the “urgency” of stockpiles of WMD’s?

You’d have them change into a society that practices racism and bigotry like the United States has for decades when it comes to black Americans, Hispanics and anyone not regarded as worthy of your respect only your contempt?

You’d rather that society mirrors your own where the highest principle is greed regardless of the costs to the environment or anyone else? Where slave-wages and sweatshops churning out product for gluttonous Americans to purchase from WalMart is the hallmark of an enlightened society?

A society that deemed it necessary to drop atomic bombs on Japan and used chemical warfare in Vietnam?

A social structure that worships the dollar before all else?

You’re appetite for hypocrisy is exceeded only by your contempt for reality.

I can fix the problems right away….all that’s standing in the way of resolving most issues before the participants on these forums is the attitude of the European settlers to America who practiced genocide on the indiginous people. The attitude of the consumption capital of the world that forgoes commitments to economic deals and treaties when the profits aren’t large enough. A nation of people that believe that Haitians and Nicaraguans and Columbians and Pannamanians and Chileans are responsible for the appetites of greed and controlled narcotics that underwrites the criminality in those nations….

A nation that practices psychological warfare on its own people. Keeping the masses attuned to fear and mistrust of all those who are abused and suffer at the hands of the largest criminal conspiracy ever to grace this planet…America.

A nation that has funded the criminal and oppressive societies in the Arabian Gulf for decades and established oppressive regimes throughout the world.

A nation that is so twisted in its thinking that it makes more sense for its government to pay billions to friends of the President in a war erected to funnel profits of war to select American corporations than it does to respond to natural disasters that destroy American homes and lives.

A nation that can put a clown or two on the moon but can’t seem to handle poverty and illiteracy among its own people.

Thanks for your input…..I’ll accept it for what its worth based on the historical precedence that anyone can find… that America has the “right” answers and everyone else is “wrong”.

 

[#juan]

One thing we have to remember here is that the war in Iraq started out as a "liberation". As soon as this so-called "liberation" was underway, American generals started bragging about "shock and awe" bombing. Maybe they expected "shock and awe" bombing to cause Iraqis to throw flowers in their path but as we all know, that didn't happen. What happened was horrendous damage to the infrastructure of virtually every city in Iraq. Water supply systems, sewer treatment plants, electrical power stations. We are talking about trillions of dollars in damage to a country that didn't start this ugly cock-up of a war. We are also talking about over a million deaths...........pick a number. Iraq, as a country, has been destroyed. Whether Americans stay or leave doesn't matter. The country of Iraq will not be a country again.

 

[Logic 7]

All I saw in Iraq was an entire culture mired in the 7th century. Unwilling and unable to change.

Are you sure you are not talking about us foreign policy? an entire culture mired in the 7th century, unwilling and unable to change, sounds like the US foreign policy.


How can you so synical towards iraqies? what would you do , if your invaders would have invades your country based on lies, install chaos, steal your ressources, installed deadly sanctions, that killed an entire generation?


You are ready to give a hell of a time, all of this based on likes, imagine if you were an iraqies

 

[jimmoyer]

Thomaska, I understand what you said, but I bet even you are joining a growing group of conservatives like me who realized stupidly all the mistakes we made in Iraq. I understand your scoffing at all the quitters and critics who don't want to try to give Iraq a chance to rise.

I understand that McCain says it's going to be a lot worse, and that a safe haven for al Qaeda will develop and it won't be like Vietnam in that "they" will stay put if we leave.

But...

I'm ready to quit on this mess. Bush's own Dad didn't go to Baghdad in Gulf War I fearing this mess would develop. Our boys and girls and even men and women in their 50s are getting killed, wounded AND they're going back in many cases a 3rd or 4th time. This is absolutely insane.

Having a real democracy in the Middle East would change a lot. But we had hubris thinking we could stumble in there and come out smelling like a rose.

We really did screw it up.

I hope the Iraqis do accept the Alaska plan whereby every citizen gets a check from the oil revenues.


It really is true that the only ones who can fix it are the Iraqis themselves.

 

[talloola]

One thing we have to remember here is that the war in Iraq started out as a "liberation". As soon as this so-called "liberation" was underway, American generals started bragging about "shock and awe" bombing. Maybe they expected "shock and awe" bombing to cause Iraqis to throw flowers in their path but as we all know, that didn't happen. What happened was horrendous damage to the infrastructure of virtually every city in Iraq. Water supply systems, sewer treatment plants, electrical power stations. We are talking about trillions of dollars in damage to a country that didn't start this ugly cock-up of a war. We are also talking about over a million deaths...........pick a number. Iraq, as a country, has been destroyed. Whether Americans stay or leave doesn't matter. The country of Iraq will not be a country again.

When the U.S. announced the name of that first bombing attack as "SHOCK AND AWE", I winced with
embarrassement, how could a country be so immature and arrogant,by giving such a name to a procedure that was going to kill thousands of people. It sounded so braggish, it was so tacky and
lacking in respect for 'anyone' who might be involved, including the U.S. military. It said to everyone,
"Look what we can do" it is "awsome", we are so "strong and intimidating". I am so so glad I am
not an american, I would be so ashamed of my countries leaders.

It is so simple, the U.S. were so bad in their organization of the war, they let anyone and everyone
into Iraq, open borders, very unmanned, and on top of that, bragged about their power.
The might as well have sent out invitations to all the terrorists in the world, as they all came.
Now thanks to the U.S., the country is full of terrorists from everywhere. They had none
before. Bush talks about the war on terrorism, he invented it.

 

[flipside]

When the U.S. announced the name of that first bombing attack as "SHOCK AND AWE", I winced with
embarrassement, how could a country be so immature and arrogant,by giving such a name to a procedure that was going to kill thousands of people. It sounded so braggish, it was so tacky and
lacking in respect for 'anyone' who might be involved, including the U.S. military. It said to everyone,
"Look what we can do" it is "awsome", we are so "strong and intimidating". I am so so glad I am
not an american, I would be so ashamed of my countries leaders.

It is so simple, the U.S. were so bad in their organization of the war, they let anyone and everyone
into the country, open borders, very unmanned, and on top of that, bragged about their power.
The might as well have sent out invitations to all the terrorists in the world, as they all came.
Now thanks to the U.S., the country is full of terrorists from everywhere. They had none
before. Bush talks about the war on terrorism, he invented it.

Well said!
Although I am somewhat curious as to the claims of the US being full of terrorists now? Were they not before? I recall hearing of bombings, car jackings, kidnappings, mass murders, mass suicides, mass shooting and a mass of other terrifying terrors before the 911 attacks?
I'm also unaware of any of the recent terrible terrifying terror attacks linked to Al Ciada? or Osama? ...hmm come to think of it was 9/11 linked? Plus the terrorist from the middle east have alot of competition if they come to the west. You got al sorts of organized terrible terrorists already here fighting for top of the terrible pile.

I say we hire the Hell Angels as private contractors for the war on terror.

PEACE

 

[talloola]

Well said!
Although I am somewhat curious as to the claims of the US being full of terrorists now? Were they not before? I recall hearing of bombings, car jackings, kidnappings, mass murders, mass suicides, mass shooting and a mass of other terrifying terrors before the 911 attacks?
I'm also unaware of any of the recent terrible terrifying terror attacks linked to Al Ciada? or Osama? ...hmm come to think of it was 9/11 linked? Plus the terrorist from the middle east have alot of competition if they come to the west. You got al sorts of organized terrible terrorists already here fighting for top of the terrible pile.

I say we hire the Hell Angels as private contractors for the war on terror.

PEACE

OK, I edited my original post, as it seemed I was referring to the U.S. with the open borders, letting all the terrorists in, when I was actually meaning Iraq, but yes, you are right, when you think about it the U.S. is crawling with some type of terrorist, mostly home grown, who do damage in some way all the time.

 

[jimmoyer]

What a mess.

"we" were wrong.