Child rapist out after six years

[#juan]

Aren't we all glad he's out?

April 20, 2007 5:13:10 PM MDT
B.C. sexual offender released, community still scarred

(CBC) - A man convicted of kidnapping and sexually assaulting two little girls near the northern B.C. city of Prince George six years ago got out of jail Friday after serving his entire sentence, and is moving to Abbotsford in the Fraser Valley.
The National Parole Board considers Benjamin Corey Hart, 27, an "untreated sex offender" at high risk of re-offending, and Abbotsford police are placing him under tight restrictions.

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The rural community where Hart once lived is still recovering from his crimes.
It was there that Hart grabbed two girls he didn't know as as they played in the snow. He drove them to a gravel pit and sexually assaulted the five- and seven-year-old girls before driving them back home.
Many local parents still won't let their kids go out alone, among them, Cindy Siemens, who calls the attacks a "big shock" to the small community.



http://www.mytelus.com/ncp_news/article.en.do?pn=regional/british_columbia&articleID=2634315

 

[the caracal kid]

its not the term length that would concern me, it is the "untreated" status.

 

[#juan]

its not the term length that would concern me, it is the "untreated" status.

The measly sentence concerns me as well as the untreated status. If he refused treatment he should still be in prison. I don't know how many times over the years we've let these animals out so they could re-offend.

 

[the caracal kid]

I agree juan. If he refused treatment, he should still be in prison. An integral part of his sentence should be what kind of person is coming out at the end of it.

 

[karrie]

While I agree with keeping people like this in as long as we can, he served his sentence. And, 'treatment' for pedophiles is almost universally POINTLESS. All it does is cost the taxpayer more money so that they can sit and pretend they've gotten help. It gives people a false sense of security, since it's almost impossible to cure these types.

 

[Josephine]

I agree that it seems that "rehabilitation" doesn't seem to work...at least there is no indesputable evidence to support it.
6 Years is actually a long sentence for raping a child. Think of Peter Whitmore, in the 90's when he kidnapped and raped 3 young boys, he was given a whopping 16 months.
Our system for punishing these rapists of babies is sad and pathetic.

If our government and others (lawyers and judges) believe that rehabilitation is the answer, then they NEED to make it manditory! No more refusing treatment, then going out and raping more babies!

The recidivism rate among child molesters and child rapists is higher than that among rapists of grown women.

Personally, I think we should lock them all up and leave them there...I have no pity for them. ON the CBC raido last night they were talking about how these molesters can't control themselves and that they don't want to continue molesting...if this is true why are they released? They can't stop themselves!!!:angryfire:

 

[lysyfacet]

its not the term length that would concern me, it is the "untreated" status.

good point, i wouldn't want him out on my streets if he hasn't "changed". The amount he sat in jail, i could careless...for all i care, he should never have came out in the first place.

 

[Josephine]

good point, i wouldn't want him out on my streets if he hasn't "changed". The amount he sat in jail, i could careless...for all i care, he should never have came out in the first place.

That's what's so frustrating! Laywers, judges and politicians go on about how rehabilitation and therapy is the way to go, yet, the one convicted gets to turn down this "therapy", and go back out onto the streets.
I personally don't even think they can "change", but if they can through therapy, it needs to be manditory. If they think someone will reoffend again upon release, then don't release him! So what if he's already done the time of his sentence...he is not safe. But, I guess they would rather wait for him to molest or rape more children and then sentence him again.:angryfire:

 

[lysyfacet]

That's what's so frustrating! Laywers, judges and politicians go on about how rehabilitation and therapy is the way to go, yet, the one convicted gets to turn down this "therapy", and go back out onto the streets.
I personally don't even think they can "change", but if they can through therapy, it needs to be manditory. If they think someone will reoffend again upon release, then don't release him! So what if he's already done the time of his sentence...he is not safe. But, I guess they would rather wait for him to molest or rape more children and then sentence him again.:angryfire:

Yeh, i've heard of cases that a criminal was released, and then they give the public warning where he/she mite reoffend...so then the question is, why was he/she released?:-?
Those who commit larger more severe crimes and have done it multiple times are ones who in most cases can't change, their minds are set at what they find exciting/thrilling. Its scary to think that, but its true. Its something they will always look for and want, in most cases they aren't changing. Altho there are some, special cases that do become better and cause no threat to the society.

 

[Josephine]

Yeh, i've heard of cases that a criminal was released, and then they give the public warning where he/she mite reoffend...so then the question is, why was he/she released?:-?
Those who commit larger more severe crimes and have done it multiple times are ones who in most cases can't change, their minds are set at what they find exciting/thrilling. Its scary to think that, but its true. Its something they will always look for and want, in most cases they aren't changing. Altho there are some, special cases that do become better and cause no threat to the society.

I always tend to doubt the ones that get "better". I think I'm a sceptic:-(
I mean, when you think about it, if they have been convicted on one count of chid rape, i do not believe that was their first time raping a child. They probable committed that crime a dozen times before being caught, tried and convicted just once!

And as always, if "therapy" is supposed to work at "helping" these rapists...they should have no right to refuse...if they refuse and we let them out anyway, and then they rape again, it is the "justice" systems fault. That child lost their innocence (and virginity) because the rapists didn't feel like getting help, and we didn't care!

 

[lysyfacet]

I always tend to doubt the ones that get "better". I think I'm a sceptic:-(
I mean, when you think about it, if they have been convicted on one count of chid rape, i do not believe that was their first time raping a child. They probable committed that crime a dozen times before being caught, tried and convicted just once!

And as always, if "therapy" is supposed to work at "helping" these rapists...they should have no right to refuse...if they refuse and we let them out anyway, and then they rape again, it is the "justice" systems fault. That child lost their innocence (and virginity) because the rapists didn't feel like getting help, and we didn't care!

yeah i definitely agree with you. Its almost forsure they've done it more then once, and it just so happens they get caught that time around. Its sick, and the only one who really loses...would be the child, its really sad.

 

[hermanntrude]

the way the media are presenting these cases to us recently i think they expect us to get together in big mobs and beat them senseless with big clubs

 

[lysyfacet]

the way the media are presenting these cases to us recently i think they expect us to get together in big mobs and beat them senseless with big clubs

i think you have yourself a point there Hermantrude, i'm sure the media isn't giving us the full detials, and if they are, they're definitely twisted. BUt that happens with most news, unfortunately we're only told those things the media knows will drag our attention.

 

[hermanntrude]

It seems now all someone has to do is shout "pedophile" and point at someone and their hated for ever. proof isnt even required any more. the problem is getting stupid in the UK. anyone under trial for it is assumed guilty and their homes are pelted with rocks and they aren't safe to leave the house.

this stuff is none of our business. Labelling individual offenders is foolish, but campaigning for longer sentences in general, yes I can agree with that.

 

[lysyfacet]

It seems now all someone has to do is shout "pedophile" and point at someone and their hated for ever. proof isnt even required any more. the problem is getting stupid in the UK. anyone under trial for it is assumed guilty and their homes are pelted with rocks and they aren't safe to leave the house.

this stuff is none of our business. Labelling individual offenders is foolish, but campaigning for longer sentences in general, yes I can agree with that.

its sad but true. Its definitely how society treats these people, you are absolutely correct Herman. Couldn't have said it any better myself.