Clinton or Bush?

Clinton or Bush?

  • I admire Clinton more

    Votes: 20 83.3%
  • I admire Bush more

    Votes: 4 16.7%

  • Total voters
    24

Stretch

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Feb 16, 2003
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if you guys arent careful, ya gunna end up with bush, bush...clinton, clinton....bush, bush....clinton? in 2008
now there's a cycle that needs to be broken
 

s243a

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Mar 9, 2007
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Who else should we blame for the debacle known as the Iraq war?

How about the president of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Nice guy. He said he wants to drive Israel into the sea. If the US leaves who do you think becomes the dominate power in the region. He has no interest in the US being successful in Iraq. In fact most leaders in the region don’t have an interest in the US being successful in Iraq because it will be harder for them to deflect blame onto the United States to distract the people from their corruption. Ahmadinejad has an even greater interest in undermining the American efforts since the more America struggles in Iraq the less will the American’s or anyone else in the world community will be willing to do anything about the nuclear weapons that Iran is developing.

Sure Bush made mistakes. People believe that there weren’t enough troops to do the job. Is this Bush’s fault? I don’t know. To quote Rumsfield, “you go to war with the army you have”. No other nation shared anywhere close to the burden in Iraq as the US so it is not like there were good choices. Bush is trying to correct this now but the democrats are thinking of sabotage. A failure for Bush in Iraq is a victory for the democrats back home. To quote Libermen, “What ultimately matters more to us: the real fight over there, or the political fight over here?”
http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009715
 

Stretch

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>>>That's scary. She's for abortion isn't she?<<<

who knows....I do know she is a supporter of isreal...the country is a big enough abortion now...what more could she do
 

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s243a

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Meantime"]http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009715
Meantime[/url], the education of kids is suffering, healthcare isn't in the best of health, the amount of poor is climbing, etc. Yep, political fights and wars are the important things, though.[/quote]

I am not a fan of Bush’s domestic policy but why should Bush’s domestic policy divide the world. Isn’t that America’s business.
 

gc

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How about the president of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Nice guy. He said he wants to drive Israel into the sea. If the US leaves who do you think becomes the dominate power in the region. He has no interest in the US being successful in Iraq. In fact most leaders in the region don’t have an interest in the US being successful in Iraq because it will be harder for them to deflect blame onto the United States to distract the people from their corruption. Ahmadinejad has an even greater interest in undermining the American efforts since the more America struggles in Iraq the less will the American’s or anyone else in the world community will be willing to do anything about the nuclear weapons that Iran is developing.
How can you blame Ahmadienjad for the Iraq war when he wasn't elected until 2005, and the Iraq war began in 2003? And, ironically, the Iraq war has only encouraged Iran to become defensive and elect a nutbar for President. The more the U.S. ramps up the rhetoric, the more Iranians are going to want a conservative anti-American president.
 

s243a

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Mar 9, 2007
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How can you blame Ahmadienjad for the Iraq war when he wasn't elected until 2005, and the Iraq war began in 2003? And, ironically, the Iraq war has only encouraged Iran to become defensive and elect a nutbar for President. The more the U.S. ramps up the rhetoric, the more Iranians are going to want a conservative anti-American president.

The problem with your theory is there was terrorism and anti-Americanism long before the US invaded Iraq.
 

Stretch

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>>>Yeah, but Ahmamadjihad was all over the news with his sentiments about Israel a couple months ago.<<<

I mean..isreal? ya gotta admit...they are a bunch of controling arseholes