Do you have a religious mind?

[china]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Sans Serif]The religious mind is something entirely different from the mind that believes in religion. You cannot be religious and yet be a Hindu, a Muslim, a Christian, a Buddhist. A religious mind does not seek at all, it cannot experiment with truth. Truth is not something dictated by your pleasure or pain, or by your conditioning as a Christian or whatever religion you belong to. The religious mind is a state of mind in which there is no fear and therefore no belief whatsoever but only what is -what actually is.
What are your thoughts?
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[tamarin]

Pass me the aspirin please. China's here!

 

[MikeyDB]

I prefer to call it a spiritual mind....

Maybe my tagline addresses this idea....


"I believe in nothing everything is sacred...I believe in everything nothing is sacred...

 

[eh1eh]

:| I'm sorry, my mind is free to explore anything. I will not submit to the confines of 'religion'. Spirtuality has absolutly nothing to do with 'relgion'. Religion is for people who want someone to tell them 'evrwyfing is OK baby'. People need to convert their minds to freedom so we can get on with developing the human race to another level. We have been stargnated for thousands of years because the people in power think they are acting in the name of God. We need to be braver than that. We need to accept there may not be a God and we will just have to do things for ourselves as a speices.

:|

 

[look3467]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Sans Serif]The religious mind is something entirely different from the mind that believes in religion. You cannot be religious and yet be a Hindu, a Muslim, a Christian, a Buddhist. A religious mind does not seek at all, it cannot experiment with truth. Truth is not something dictated by your pleasure or pain, or by your conditioning as a Christian or whatever religion you belong to. The religious mind is a state of mind in which there is no fear and therefore no belief whatsoever but only what is -what actually is.
What are your thoughts?
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Religiously speaking, religion in my opinion is mankind's attempts to reach God, by whatever means it thinks is appropriate as a cause, or as a motive to achieve certain power or status.

Therefore, ones core beliefs reflect ones own religion.

But belief in God as unlined by Jesus as the known God in the flesh, or correctly said, "Emanuel" is "the" religion of love (God), by which all mankind can relate too, and can be that of one spirit.

Religions then define themselves according to that standard. If there is no love exercised then that persons religion is a false religion.

Now as for all the other religions, it is now my understanding, that Christ purchased the souls of all mankind, thereby rendering mankind's attempts to save himself by reason of merit, holds no credit.

That persons religion is tested by fire as to what it is. Fire meaning under suffering causing one to either generate love or hate, depending on if God is in the heart. (Love)

I see all mankind as brothers, same gender speaking, since I also believe that in God there are no male or female souls.

Brothers, therefore I have to love them whether they are my enemies or not. That was the example left us by Christ.

To follow in His footsteps, then, there may be a call to suffering of persecution as did the early followers.

But here and now today, I have suffered none of those things because my former brothers have paved the way by their own sacrifices, many with their lives.

We are the beneficiaries of their work and plus the knowledge and understanding they have contributed to our well being.

It is akin to relating the same situation to say, the American Indians. At first they were ran out of their own land, many killed and made to live in reservations.

But today, the benefits of their sacrifices are tremendous. They have casinos generating monies, their own medical centers. Not only that, but inner marriages with the rest of the races defusing somewhat discrimination.

The marriage than for all of us is in the bond of love. Regardless of what religion, religious beliefs, race, color, makes no difference, as long as love is the bonding agent.

Peace can only be made with God in one's heart, then to our neighbors heart.

Love knows no bounds.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[MikeyDB]

If the best your god can do is demonstrated by the two thousand years that have passed since he pulled the bait and switch routine..."For god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son"....OPPS he rose from the dead and didn't really die for mankinds god-given sinfulness after all....

Keep it.

 

[look3467]

:| I'm sorry, my mind is free to explore anything. I will not submit to the confines of 'religion'. Spirtuality has absolutly nothing to do with 'relgion'. Religion is for people who want someone to tell them 'evrwyfing is OK baby'. People need to convert their minds to freedom so we can get on with developing the human race to another level. We have been stargnated for thousands of years because the people in power think they are acting in the name of God. We need to be braver than that. We need to accept there may not be a God and we will just have to do things for ourselves as a speices.

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Well guess what? Well, first let me quote the words of God: Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Christ can liberate us to believe what we want and still be saved! Let me x-plain. Christ died for the salvation of our souls. He is the rightful owner of them, yours and mine.

Now, to understand that, means to appreciate the effort of God to save us dispite our efforts.

That makes us all brothers and sisters, enemy or not.

Therefore, the only possible bond that any of us can have between our deverse beliefs and understandings is love one for another.

That is what "being free"means. It means bound by nothing but love. No religious dogmas!

Right now, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle that for a religious person to demonstrate love. The reason being is because the religious person is bound by the choice of religious belief.
A none religious persons can see passed that needle allot easier than a religious one can.

So your argument holds water, and a good point at that.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[look3467]

If the best your god can do is demonstrated by the two thousand years that have passed since he pulled the bait and switch routine..."For god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son"....OPPS he rose from the dead and didn't really die for mankinds god-given sinfulness after all....

Keep it.

My friend, God is best demonstrated in you and I! There is where He works: in us! To change our hearts as like His. Love thy neighbor is a resultant attitude of that fact.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[Said1]

No, I don't have a religious mind, nor do I have a very spiritual mind..

 

[look3467]

No, I don't have a religious mind.

Meaning?

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[Said1]

Meaning?

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

Meaning I don't have a religious mind.

 

[look3467]

Meaning I don't have a religious mind.

If you went to the casino and gambled regularly, could it be said you do it religiously?

Now, if your saying something about God as a religious belief, that you don't have one, than that is understandable.
There are few here who claim that as well, of which by me, is understandable.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[Said1]

If you went to the casino and gambled regularly, could it be said you do it religiously?

Now, if your saying something about God as a religious belief, that you don't have one, than that is understandable.
There are few here who claim that as well, of which by me, is understandable.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

I don't do anything religiously unless it's a matter of survival - as in going to work everyday for 8am, or taking a shower as to not offend those I work with so I can continue to go to work everyday at 8am.

Now, as I said, I'm neither religious or very spiritual.

 

[eh1eh]

So your argument holds water, and a good point at that.

Peace>>>AJ

Maybe I've been a little hasty in devoping my opinions. You've given me cause to think.:wave:

 

[Said1]

Will the real AJ please stand up.

Or, is that who you're addressing?

 

[MikeyDB]

Eh1Eh

You are free to draw your own conclusions of course, but the love of ones neighbor must proceed from love of one's self. Religions frequently demand that you acknowledge the sinful nature and propensity to sinfulness and corruption that you were "given" by respective "creator beings"...

As soon as you capacity to see yourself and acknowledge your own shortcomings has emerged, you have the capacity to exercise tolerance and forgiveness to those whom you may call neighbors...

Don't look to the Roman Catholic Church as "model" for this behavior any more than the Islamic "faith", these institutions have practiced prejudice and exclusivity for generations, sitting idle while good Catholics and good Protestants killed each other in Ireland and all over the world...

Chirstianity informs human consciousness that human beings are flawed creatures, one can only conclude that this "flaw" must reside within the context of the creator-mythology. Getting rid of this notion that humankind is created with a spectum of flawed characteristics isn't what the Roman Catholic Church or many of the large theist organizations really want. Attendance at rituals and cathedrals build among the starving and the poor demand attendance....do the math...

 

[look3467]

Will the real AJ please stand up.

Or, is that who you're addressing?

Just trying to bring out the best in ya!

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[Curiosity]

Dear China

I would love to answer your question regarding my mind.... it appears I have lost mine therefore cannot determine where it belongs.

 

[look3467]

Eh1Eh

You are free to draw your own conclusions of course, but the love of ones neighbor must proceed from love of one's self. Religions frequently demand that you acknowledge the sinful nature and propensity to sinfulness and corruption that you were "given" by respective "creator beings"...

As soon as you capacity to see yourself and acknowledge your own shortcomings has emerged, you have the capacity to exercise tolerance and forgiveness to those whom you may call neighbors...

Don't look to the Roman Catholic Church as "model" for this behavior any more than the Islamic "faith", these institutions have practiced prejudice and exclusivity for generations, sitting idle while good Catholics and good Protestants killed each other in Ireland and all over the world...

Chirstianity informs human consciousness that human beings are flawed creatures, one can only conclude that this "flaw" must reside within the context of the creator-mythology. Getting rid of this notion that humankind is created with a spectum of flawed characteristics isn't what the Roman Catholic Church or many of the large theist organizations really want. Attendance at rituals and cathedrals build among the starving and the poor demand attendance....do the math...

You are right about first loving oneself. But if we look at loving our neighbor as like we love ourselves, then there is no problem.

The problem lies in the things we don’t love about ourselves, are the things we don’t like in our neighbor as well.

We must first understand our strengths and deficiencies in ourselves so that we can understand our neighbors.

For: they are no different than us as far as the flesh is concerned. Spiritually speaking, there are degrees of faith.
But it only takes a small amount as the word of God says: “faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains”.

There are some with greater faith and some with lesser faith. But faith is faith regardless of what degree.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[L Gilbert]

Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry: 1re·li·gious Pronunciation: \ri-ˈli-jəs\ Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French religius, from Latin religiosus, from religio Date: 13th century 1: relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity <a religious person> <religious attitudes>2: of, relating to, or devoted to religious beliefs or observances <joined a religious order>3 a: scrupulously and conscientiously faithful b: fervent, zealous
— re·li·gious·ly adverb
— re·li·gious·ness noun

My religious mind? Hmmmm. In reference to the 1st definition, perhaps, but it's more like a confidence in reason and science than a faithful devotion. In reference to the 2nd definition, no. In reference to the 3rd definition, no, I'm not a zealot.
Anyway, I try to stay away from certain terms when describing myself; religion, faith, belief, etc. are all terms I avoid.