Brave IDF caught on tape using human shield

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Did you notice that it looks like he "shined" the bottom of his shoe?
It has always amazed me, how people claim to be objective and see the violence on both sides, then make comments like...
earth as one said:
Now that Hezbollah has rearmed, they are ready to take on Israel again. I predict within three months something will trigger the fighting and it will be a hot war again. But this time, Israel will have to fight past Lebanese army and UNIFIL positions to get to Hezbollah. I wonder how countries with soldiers in UNIFIL will feel about that?

Looks to me like Hezbollah outfoxed Israel yet again.

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And you havent learned nothing from iraq war, you still think it is appropriate to attack iran, a nation that hasnt attacked anyone in the last 20 year, the only thing they do( which is good) is to finance Hezbollah.

Totally blowing their own opinion out of the water in the process, then insinuate that if you dissagree, you are somehow mentally or physically defective.



Baffling.
 
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And all of that will be instantly dismissed, excused or outright ignored.

These people see the Hezbollah as "freedom fighters". only attacking Israel, for Israel occupation and transgressions, yet where were these "freedom fighters" when their lands were occupied by other Arabs?

There's a reason I didn't bother LG. I've posted the same links so many times, it's just become boring. Nothing you or I say will be intelligent, factual, objective or anything else for that matter, where these people are concerned.
 

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Still image of the video:
http://mwcnews.net/content/view/12917&Itemid=1

...In the AP video, the young Palestinian man is seen leading soldiers to the door of a home. He stands outside as troops move in, then leads the soldiers up some stairs to the apartment's main entrance.
The man enters the home ahead of the soldiers. Gunshots are heard as several soldiers stand guard outside...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Israel-Nablus-Raid.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Its unusual that it was caught on video.
 

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Pretty good links. I noticed where they came from. Those images are newsworthy, people should see them.

No doubt some of Israel's enemies hid and launched missiles near innocent people.

Human Rights Watch
...Although both the UN’s Human Rights Council and the Lebanese government have called for Israel to be held accountable for its crimes, they have not done so for Hezbollah. This failure sends Hezbollah a message that it can act with impunity while undermining the protection of civilians caught in fighting involving armed groups around the world...

http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/10/05/lebano14336.htm

I disagree with Hezbollah's violence as much as Israel's. But let's be clear on the sequence of events.

Israel and Hezbollah had been taking swipes at each other since Hezbollah's creation. The swipes continue today I'm sure.

When Hezbollah launched a successful military operation against Israel which resulted in the death and capture of Israeli soldiers, Israel responded with a disasterous rescue attempt which killed more Israeli soldiers. Its too bad Israel wasn't successful. Then maybe that's where it would have ended.

But instead Israel resorted to bombing civilian neighborhoods and Beirut's international airport. At no time were missiles ever fired from Beirut, yet Israel killed hundreds of innocent people in Beirut. Hezbollah returned fire from southern Lebanon only after Israel had already killed hundreds of innocent civilians across Lebanon.

Hezbollah has responsibility for some of the innocent deaths on both sides of the border when they met violence with violence, but Israel for drew first civilian blood.

That's not a defence of Hezbollah's violence but an observation regarding the sequence of events.

I would be in favor of bringing leaders of both sides in this dispute before the Hague for their crimes.
 

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I disagree with Hezbollah's violence as much as Israel's. But let's be clear on the sequence of events.
BS...
No doubt some of Israel's enemies hid and launched missiles near innocent people.
Huh? "some of Israel's enemies", ya I didn't think you could bring yourself to actually admit, your beloved Hezbollah are guilty of using human shields.
When Hezbollah launched a successful military operation against Israel which resulted in the death and capture of Israeli soldiers, Israel responded with a disasterous rescue attempt which killed more Israeli soldiers. Its too bad Israel wasn't successful. Then maybe that's where it would have ended.
Your choice of exclamation and words, proves me right.
Had you truly been offended by the violence on both sides, no military operation would be considered "successful", they would all be disasterous. You don't want peace, you are anti Israeli, pro Arab. Since you keep showing this love affair for the Hezbollah, you are a defacto nazi lover as well.

The more you post, the more you expose of your true self.
 

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Prove it was an accident. I spose it's accidental that Hizbollah launch rocket attacks from close to UN posts, too.

When israel target ambulance, is it possible to prove it was an accident?

And don't worry i don't excuses their radical behavior, cause i support it all the way.

That's only your opinion, not fact.

What about the rest of the info in the links? No comment? I didn't think you'd comment much on evidence against you.

Your turn now. Any evidence that Hizbollah don't use civilian structures for hiding places?


Hezbollah are lebanese, means they live in lebanon, when israel started to attack lebanon, they didnt care where they hit, and then they turned around, and say, ohh we target civilians places because hezbollah are hiding themselves in the populations,

I am sorry none of your link, proves that hezbollah use house, hospital etcc to hide themselves, nice try.
 

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When israel target ambulance, is it possible to prove it was an accident?

And don't worry i don't excuses their radical behavior, cause i support it all the way.




Hezbollah are lebanese, means they live in lebanon, when israel started to attack lebanon, they didnt care where they hit, and then they turned around, and say, ohh we target civilians places because hezbollah are hiding themselves in the populations,

I am sorry none of your link, proves that hezbollah use house, hospital etcc to hide themselves, nice try.
 

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israel did attacked civilians area first ,then hezbollah tried to defend them in those area, that is how i see it.

According to peoples like you, hezbollah and lebanese should have done nothing, let them die from israel agression and invasion, then you would have respect for them.


Israel destroyed lebanese infrastructures, was it because hezbollah were hidding themselves in those infrastructures? not at all, they did it, and it was a war crimes, however since israel, along with china and USA, don't recognize the international court de la hague, israel will never be tried.


Seriously How do you expect hezbollah to work?

They are a resistance organisation, not really well organised( it will, just a question of time with the help of iran)
 

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israel did attacked civilians area first ,then hezbollah tried to defend them in those area, that is how i see it.

According to peoples like you, hezbollah and lebanese should have done nothing, let them die from israel agression and invasion, then you would have respect for them.


Seriously How do you expect hezbollah to work?

They are a resistance organisation, not really well organised( it will, just a question of time with the help of iran)
 
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At least I can admit Hezbollah and their allies are responsible for innocent civilian deaths. Many Israeli apologists seem unable to admit that Israel began targeting civilians first last summer, when the facts show this was the case.

If Israel attacks civilian targets, then they should expect their civilians will likewise be targetted.
 

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Pretty good links. I noticed where they came from. Those images are newsworthy, people should see them.

No doubt some of Israel's enemies hid and launched missiles near innocent people.

Human Rights Watch


I disagree with Hezbollah's violence as much as Israel's. But let's be clear on the sequence of events.

Israel and Hezbollah had been taking swipes at each other since Hezbollah's creation. The swipes continue today I'm sure.

When Hezbollah launched a successful military operation against Israel which resulted in the death and capture of Israeli soldiers, Israel responded with a disasterous rescue attempt which killed more Israeli soldiers. Its too bad Israel wasn't successful. Then maybe that's where it would have ended.

But instead Israel resorted to bombing civilian neighborhoods and Beirut's international airport. At no time were missiles ever fired from Beirut, yet Israel killed hundreds of innocent people in Beirut. Hezbollah returned fire from southern Lebanon only after Israel had already killed hundreds of innocent civilians across Lebanon.

Hezbollah has responsibility for some of the innocent deaths on both sides of the border when they met violence with violence, but Israel for drew first civilian blood.

That's not a defence of Hezbollah's violence but an observation regarding the sequence of events.

I would be in favor of bringing leaders of both sides in this dispute before the Hague for their crimes.
So was I saying Israel is innocent? No. Do I care who started what? No. Do I think 2 wrongs make a right? No.

Um, where the vids came from is pretty much irrelevant. I couldn't expect to see Hizbollah vids showing Hizbollah people firing rockets from houses and other civilian locations, anyway.
 

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When israel target ambulance, is it possible to prove it was an accident?

And don't worry i don't excuses their radical behavior, cause i support it all the way.
That figures. You are the type that would think 2 wrongs make a right.

Hezbollah are lebanese, means they live in lebanon, when israel started to attack lebanon, they didnt care where they hit, and then they turned around, and say, ohh we target civilians places because hezbollah are hiding themselves in the populations,
And the Hizbollah don't give a crap where their rockets land either as long as they land in Israel.

I am sorry none of your link, proves that hezbollah use house, hospital etcc to hide themselves, nice try.
You are blind then.
 

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israel did attacked civilians area first ,then hezbollah tried to defend them in those area, that is how i see it.
I don't care how you see it because you don't provide any evidence. You just spew your worthless opinion.

According to peoples like you, hezbollah and lebanese should have done nothing, let them die from israel agression and invasion, then you would have respect for them.
People like me? You know nothing about me.

Israel destroyed lebanese infrastructures, was it because hezbollah were hidding themselves in those infrastructures? not at all, they did it, and it was a war crimes, however since israel, along with china and USA, don't recognize the international court de la hague, israel will never be tried.
Do you have any idea of what infrastructure is?

Seriously How do you expect hezbollah to work?
With honor. But they don't and I doubt they ever will. They hide behind women because to them, women are just property.

They are a resistance organisation, not really well organised( it will, just a question of time with the help of iran)
So go join em and organize em.
 

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At least I can admit Hezbollah and their allies are responsible for innocent civilian deaths. Many Israeli apologists seem unable to admit that Israel began targeting civilians first last summer, when the facts show this was the case.

If Israel attacks civilian targets, then they should expect their civilians will likewise be targetted.
I can respect that you don't only see one side. But I don't care who started what, 2 wrongs don't make a right.
 

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So was I saying Israel is innocent? No. Do I care who started what? No. Do I think 2 wrongs make a right? No.

Um, where the vids came from is pretty much irrelevant. I couldn't expect to see Hizbollah vids showing Hizbollah people firing rockets from houses and other civilian locations, anyway.

I disagree. Israel decided to include innocent civilians first. Once that line has been crossed, its reasonable to expect your adversary will also cross that line in response. Hezbollah still has a lot of catching up.

So now we face the prospect of both sides holding the other sides civilians hostage. This doesn't look good.

I don't claim to have a solution.
 

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You disagree? You think 2 wrongs make a right? You think Hizbollah would publish vids about them firing rockets at Israel from houses? I'm not sure what you are disagreeing about.

I don't think anything has looked goodd in the middle east for a long time. But I od have 1 solution, everyone should butt out and leave them to themselves. Let the Sunni and Shia have it out, let the Hizbollah and the Palestines take on Israel, etc.
 

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Lets get a few things straight about who started what here earth.
1) Israel is targetted what, daily, weekly, monthly, by the terrorist groups. Well up until lately that is. But prior to last summers lil brewhaha, there seemed to be a whole lot of Israeli civilians being targetted, for no reason.
2) Last summers war was caused by the Hezbollah, not the Lebonese Army, breaking International law and kidnapping two IDF Soldiers. It has been common practice to do so. Then barter them back as a hostage, in contradiction to international law.
3) Israel did not target civilians first, the Hezbollah did. Then to compound their idiocy, they hide behind civilian centers, knowing full well that the IDF will retaliate.

Everytime you post, your lie is exposed a little more.