"End times senerios"

L Gilbert

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There is one verse in the bible that speaks to that: Ecc 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

None excluded!

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
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Yeah, it basically means ****e happens.
 

hermanntrude

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You've heard the story of Abraham? Where He pleaded with God to save Sodom?

Gen 18:26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

Here is Abraham pleading:
Gen 18:28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.
And He pleaded all the down to 5 righteous and could not be found.

So, a natural disaster happened. So I think and believe.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

that doesnt really answer the question. Anyway there wouldn't be any city in the world where less than 5 good people were to be found. and what if he found four? why four rather than 5? God's logic seems flawed in this story
 

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You've heard the story of Abraham? Where He pleaded with God to save Sodom?

Gen 18:26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

Here is Abraham pleading:
Gen 18:28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.
And He pleaded all the down to 5 righteous and could not be found.

So, a natural disaster happened. So I think and believe.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Have you ever read the Bible AJ? I suspected you had not from some of your comments in other threads, but such posts as this confirms it for me. It was Lot in the story,AJ, not Abraham. And as to the tale depicted in the Scriptures, it was not described as a natural disaster, but being directly from God. In the future, do read the Bible before claiming knowledge of it:):)
 

hermanntrude

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Have you ever read the Bible AJ? I suspected you had not from some of your comments in other threads, but such posts as this confirms it for me. It was Lot in the story,AJ, not Abraham. And as to the tale depicted in the Scriptures, it was not described as a natural disaster, but being directly from God. In the future, do read the Bible before claiming knowledge of it:):)

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RomSpaceKnight

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Looking back in time and at all the stories of humanity, there always seems to be some kind of wipe out, but notice that there is always a remnant ? Just as like you pointed out.

Based on that assumption, one would think that life will continue on whether a natural disaster or human would trigger it.

Religiously thinking, if I understand it correctly, the old world's human spiritual condition ended at the cross, and the new human spiritual condition started at the cross.

So the end times idea is long past but holds out as like a carrot before the horse for those who are weak in the faith. (Religiously speaking).

Peace>>>AJ:love9:
There is such a thing as zodiacal progression. Where a wobble in the Earth's axial rotation makes the sun rise on the spring equinox in different constellations over a course of 2000 odd years. When the sun rose on the sring equinox in the constellation of Taurus 6000 years ago, golden calfs were sacrificed to. Moses preached against such idols. When the sun rose in Aries 4000 years ago, rams were popular sacrifices. Animal sacrifice such as rams is popular in old Testament and Judaisms history. Now the sun rises in Pisces for about the last 2000 years. Christ symbol is the fish. A new age is about to dawn as the sun rises in the constellation of Aquarius. Could we be nigh on hand for the end of the Christ's age and his fish sign? Who or what will be venerated represented by the water bearer of Aquarius?
 

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There is such a thing as zodiacal progression. Where a wobble in the Earth's axial rotation makes the sun rise on the spring equinox in different constellations over a course of 2000 odd years. When the sun rose on the sring equinox in the constellation of Taurus 6000 years ago, golden calfs were sacrificed to. Moses preached against such idols. When the sun rose in Aries 4000 years ago, rams were popular sacrifices. Animal sacrifice such as rams is popular in old Testament and Judaisms history. Now the sun rises in Pisces for about the last 2000 years. Christ symbol is the fish. A new age is about to dawn as the sun rises in the constellation of Aquarius. Could we be nigh on hand for the end of the Christ's age and his fish sign? Who or what will be venerated represented by the water bearer of Aquarius?

Are you talking about 2012?

The end times in my oppinion are NOT the end of the world its the end of the world as we KNOW it. Our ideas will change our attitudes will change our lives will change.

There is a theory about cosmic dust that creates negitive ions that helps bring this about. I dont know science, I know my heart and I know that I personally can help bring this change about by the way I treat other people.

Then theres the 101st monkey theory which says once the collective conscious hits critical mass ALL of our thinking prossess' will change.
 

Dexter Sinister

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There is such a thing as zodiacal progression. ... Who or what will be venerated represented by the water bearer of Aquarius?
I hope you're kidding. That's the precession of the equinoxes you're talking about. The equinox and solstice points rotate westward about 15 degrees per thousand years, full cycle takes about 26,000 years. It was the Babylonians about 2500 years ago who developed the 12 sign zodiac, though the Assyrians and Chaldeans were doing similar divination 500 years before that. It was the Greeks who put it into its present form and invented all the mystic nonsense that goes with it.

Astrology's wrong. It has nothing of any significance to say about any end time scenario, or anything else. It's simply wrong, about everything.
 

RomSpaceKnight

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I'm sure it's just a coincidence. But big changes in society and religion do seem to occur around the time of the dawning of a new age. Could be a cyclical 2000 year human culture thing. Then again............*plays Twilight Zone theme*
 

darkbeaver

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First, what have I sworn to do again? Second, I don't have a flock, and third, gender applies only to this fleshly existence and fourth, less than perfect understanding is always a goal one should to strive for.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

You belong to an Alternative Universe School, one of many, and your's is particularly void of fact or reason. You believe you can escape from the garden, you're already in heaven you can never escape.Your not going anywhere you're staying here with the rest of us for eternity.
You've sworn to walk in the footsteps of Jesus.If you were serious you would sell your posessions and walk the streets among the poor destributing loaves and fishes.If you expect to be reunited anon I should think you would want to meet him having led a life mirroring his as closely as posible, something he ordered you to do if I'm not mistaken. He's hardly going to want to spend time with you studying the bible in heaven. Most of the good christians I'v met know squat about the bible.
 
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Dexter Sinister

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I'm sure it's just a coincidence. But big changes in society and religion do seem to occur around the time of the dawning of a new age.

It *is* just a coincidence, compounded by wishful thinking, selective thinking, and confirmation bias. Big changes happen all the time, not just around the dawning of a new astrological age, and there seems no particular greater significance to those that do happen around those times. In no particular order but the order they occurred to me in, consider the Industrial Revolution, the Plague, the First World War, and the birth of Mohammed. None of them happened around the dawning of a new age, they're all still fairly significant factors in what the world currently looks like, and the world is very different from what it was at the previous dawning of a new astrological age.
 

AmberEyes

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I have *hope* that we'll be able to make it off this planet before our Sun expands. Even then, I suspect we'd die in our efforts to colonize potential planets farther out in space.

And, if we don't make it off the planet anytime soon, I suspect we'll use up all of our resources and die in starvation.
 

darkbeaver

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I have *hope* that we'll be able to make it off this planet before our Sun expands. Even then, I suspect we'd die in our efforts to colonize potential planets farther out in space.

And, if we don't make it off the planet anytime soon, I suspect we'll use up all of our resources and die in starvation.

The sun thing is a way off Ambereyes, at least I hope it is. I f we get smart we could everyone could live on the earth for a long time. Nobody out there in space is going to be to keen about having a destructive race like us start moving arround out there.:wave:
 

AmberEyes

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The sun thing is a way off Ambereyes, at least I hope it is. I f we get smart we could everyone could live on the earth for a long time. Nobody out there in space is going to be to keen about having a destructive race like us start moving arround out there.:wave:

Probably not, lol.