How can we get rid of our sinfulness?

[m_levesque]

Interesting points. The fact is, one never does really know how one action can cause a reaction in ways we are not even aware of.

It is hard, sometimes, to live a life of holiness. We are all called to live a life of holiness, though.

This doesn’t mean you need to walk around with your hands together all the time, blessing everyone that you see.

No, a life of holiness simply means being spiritually connected with God, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year.

Also, you need to keep in touch with people. You need to spread the Word of God around—not just to Catholics or other Christians, but to the world. Shout it out loud and clear!

Then, and only then, you will be living a holy Christian lifestyle. And that is the most important lifestyle you can live.

Being that we are all guests in God’s wonderful and beautiful universe, we should try our best to live up to the challenge of holiness.

 

[m_levesque]

If you could understand the bible I way I do, you would see that all the souls that have ever been born and the ones that are dying daily, have all seen Jesus.

Why is it you believe you are the only one who properly understands the Scriptures? Why is it we are wrong and you are right? did God tell you only AJ knows the truth about the Bible? And yet, as someone outside of the Church, you don't even believe in all the bible, obviously..I guess you only believe in the parts you like and ignore the rest!

 

[look3467]

Why is it you believe you are the only one who properly understands the Scriptures? Why is it we are wrong and you are right? did God tell you only AJ knows the truth about the Bible? And yet, as someone outside of the Church, you don't even believe in all the bible, obviously..I guess you only believe in the parts you like and ignore the rest!

I don't say that you are wrong, or anybody for that matter. It is that you take it that way.
I present what I believe and you make the judgments, yea or nay, that's all.

I happen to understand what I say which is new material that you all haven't heard, thus making it seem as I am above you all in knowledge.
I've seen what you guys see and what you now believe, I've been there.
To be able to see the whole bible in one picture as I now see it has given me an understanding that has changed my whole attitude about how I see, all the various religions, Atheists and any non-believer.

I am no different than you in who we believe in. We both believe in OUR Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and His Holy Spirit.

I worship the Father in Jesus the way I do and you do it the way you do. But still the same God.
So what are we bickering about? We should be in unity of Spirit, not disunity of trivial things.

Its like children fighting over the fathers attention. Hey, we are both brothers to the same Father, so lets join hands and praise Him instead of annoying Him with our bickering.

Let us discuss our different ways of worship without the "I am right and you are wrong attitude".

We are on stage displaying our beliefs to the world! Will we be found guilty of disrupting the flow of the Holy Spirit in some who may be on the verge of being touched in the heart?

That is why I give all diligence to what I say to you and others so as to hopefully convince the audience of the love of God in me.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[m_levesque]

I don't say that you are wrong, or anybody for that matter. It is that you take it that way.
I present what I believe and you make the judgments, yea or nay, that's all.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

Hang on, did you not write:

"If you could understand the bible I way I do, you would see that all the souls that have ever been born and the ones that are dying daily, have all seen Jesus."

Which strongly implies that to understand the Bible we must understand as you do..or simply put, that you have the key others lack!

 

[m_levesque]

Mary, please understand that the Holy Spirit is guiding all our lives. What I mean by guiding is that He takes steps to show us by the use of other vessels (Good ones and evil ones)the differences by wh

The result of the break from the Catholic Church by Luther has been utter confusion among Christians, for there are now over 33,800 different Protestant religions, with several new ones being formed next week. Each interpret the Bible differently and feel that they are guided by the Spirit when they do so. Clearly it is impossible for this chaos to have come from God. The only solution is a return to the Church which existed before the Bible, compiled the books contained in it, and has always authoritatively given its proper interpretation, the Catholic Church.

 

[snfu73]

The result of the break from the Catholic Church by Luther has been utter confusion among Christians, for there are now over 33,800 different Protestant religions, with several new ones being formed next week. Each interpret the Bible differently and feel that they are guided by the Spirit when they do so. Clearly it is impossible for this chaos to have come from God. The only solution is a return to the Church which existed before the Bible, compiled the books contained in it, and has always authoritatively given its proper interpretation, the Catholic Church.

But, isn't that essentially what it is...an interpretation...the interpretation of human beings of god's word (supposedly)? Therefore, it has been filtered, altered, had the biases of the interpretors instilled. Therefore, is it really the pure word of god? Maybe you have it wrong?

 

[sanctus]

The result of the break from the Catholic Church by Luther has been utter confusion among Christians, for there are now over 33,800 different Protestant religions, with several new ones being formed next week. Each interpret the Bible differently and feel that they are guided by the Spirit when they do so. Clearly it is impossible for this chaos to have come from God. The only solution is a return to the Church which existed before the Bible, compiled the books contained in it, and has always authoritatively given its proper interpretation, the Catholic Church.

Saddly, that is true. the further they go from the true faith, the further they go fromChrist and the Gospel.

 

[m_levesque]

so, your point is that hitler was not an evil man? he was totally evil, dont you agree.

yes, he was certainly an evil man!

 

[snfu73]

Saddly, that is true. the further they go from the true faith, the further they go fromChrist and the Gospel.

What the??? So, basically, if your not a Catholic, your religion means nothing? That's crap.

 

[sanctus]

yes, he was certainly an evil man!

No one, not even Hitler, is totally evil. There is always a spark of goodness in every man.Hitler perpetuated evil actions, but still, he was man like any other man.

 

[snfu73]

Why is it you believe you are the only one who properly understands the Scriptures? Why is it we are wrong and you are right? did God tell you only AJ knows the truth about the Bible? And yet, as someone outside of the Church, you don't even believe in all the bible, obviously..I guess you only believe in the parts you like and ignore the rest!

It seems to me that that is pretty much what you do.

 

[look3467]

Hang on, did you not write:

"If you could understand the bible I way I do, you would see that all the souls that have ever been born and the ones that are dying daily, have all seen Jesus."

Which strongly implies that to understand the Bible we must understand as you do..or simply put, that you have the key others lack!

I am making a statement that can be taken as such. But also can be taken as a challenge or maybe perhaps there is something more to be learned or understood.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[snfu73]

I love this site...

http://home.earthlink.net/~owl233/biblecomments.htm

 

[look3467]

Why is it you believe you are the only one who properly understands the Scriptures? Why is it we are wrong and you are right? did God tell you only AJ knows the truth about the Bible? And yet, as someone outside of the Church, you don't even believe in all the bible, obviously..I guess you only believe in the parts you like and ignore the rest!

My friend, this were you do error in judgment. I believe in nothing but the whole bible and you should be able to acknowledge that by what things I say and quote.

For I understand all that you say for I’ve seen it before as you do, but you have not seen what I now understand and having a hard time seeing it.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[sanctus]

My friend, this were you do error in judgment. I believe in nothing but the whole bible and you should be able to acknowledge that by what things I say and quote.

For I understand all that you say for I’ve seen it before as you do, but you have not seen what I now understand and having a hard time seeing it.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

Actually, that is not true AJ, you do not believe in the "whole" Bible, for you have the "Reader's Digest"condensed version which excludes books from the Bible

 

[sanctus]

I am making a statement that can be taken as such. But also can be taken as a challenge or maybe perhaps there is something more to be learned or understood.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

Perhaps, but does not this also apply to yourself? Consider that there is a very real possibility that you too might have something to learn or understand.

 

[m_levesque]

Actually, that is not true AJ, you do not believe in the "whole" Bible, for you have the "Reader's Digest"condensed version which excludes books from the Bible

Why did they take books out of the Bible anyway? You would think that would bother "Bible alone" people knowing that the Bibles they read are ones with books missing?

 

[sanctus]

Why did they take books out of the Bible anyway? You would think that would bother "Bible alone" people knowing that the Bibles they read are ones with books missing?

The books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, 1st and 2nd Maccabees and parts of Esther and Daniel were accepted by the Jews until the end of the 2nd century A.D. Thus they were included in the translation of the Old Testament into Greek (known as the Septuagint) in the 3rd century B.C. Toward the end of the 2nd century A.D., the Jews formed a definitive canon of Scripture for the first time in their history. At that time, they excluded these books for one or more of three reasons: 1) they were more recent than the other OT books; 2) they were not written originally in Hebrew; 3) Christians were using them with great success in preaching Christ.
These are the books called deuterocanonical (meaning, "belonging to the second list"), not that there are or ever were two lists or canons of biblical books, but that these books won slow acceptance in the early Church, both before and after the rabbis excluded them from the Jewish canon. In the 16th century, the Protestants preferred to follow, the 2nd century Jewish canon, and so they excluded the deuterocanonicals.Martin Luther felt that the books supported some Catholic doctrines he wanted to change in his new sect, so he removed them to avoid confusion amongst his followers. At that time also, the Council of Trent included them in the official Catholic biblical canon on the basis of their continuous usage in the Church from the beginning.
If your friends are Christians, they will agree with you that Jesus Christ brought the Old Covenant to an end and instituted the New Covenant in His blood. With the Old Covenant at an end, the leaders of the Old Covenant lost their authority over the Scriptures. So the rabbis at the end of the 2nd century A.D. had no authority to form a scriptural canon. They might do so as an exercise of scholarship, but not with any religious authority. In the New Testament in Christ's blood, Christ is the Authority, and He has given that authority to Peter and the apostles to pass on to their successors (Matt. 16:18-19; 18:18; 28:18-20; John 21:15-17).
The Church is the pillar and foundation of the truth (1st Timothy 3:15). The Church alone has the authority to determine what is or is not inspired Scripture. The Church also is the only authentic (i.e., Christ-appointed) interpreter of Scripture.

 

[look3467]

Perhaps, but does not this also apply to yourself? Consider that there is a very real possibility that you too might have something to learn or understand.

I will agree with you, I still have allot to learn. If I said I didn't, I'd be a fool, because my brain would be overiding my heart desire to learn more about our God.

Peace>>>AJ:love9:

 

[look3467]

Why did they take books out of the Bible anyway? You would think that would bother "Bible alone" people knowing that the Bibles they read are ones with books missing?

God is the mover and shaker of all things that happen.
I can only go by what He leads me to learn and my choice to believe.

If I have knowledge of Gods plan to humanity's salvation, and can understand it, then the designed effect of that plan has taken hold in my heart and His objective met.

I therefore share my knowledge to whom ever would consider it and no more.

Peace>>>AJ:love9: