Glad to be Canadian, Muslims say

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More than 80 per cent of Canada's roughly 700,000 Muslims are broadly satisfied with their lives here and only a very small percentage — 17 per cent — feel that many or most Canadians are hostile toward their religion.
According to a new Environics poll conducted in association with the CBC, a much larger proportion of Canadian Muslims is satisfied with the way things are going today than is the case in Europe. The proportion is greater even than the 61 per cent of Canadians who generally feel their lives are on the right track.
Cold weather topped the list of things about Canada that Muslims polled like the least.
(CBC)
At the same time, there are clearly different perceptions between the Muslim community and other Canadians over such flashpoint issues as integration, the role of women and the wearing of headscarves.
And despite intensive efforts by the Stephen Harper government to reach out and recruit prominent Muslims to its cause — witness the recent floor-crossing of former Liberal MP Wajid Khan — there is little sense that this is yet taking hold.
Asked whom they intend to vote for in the next federal election, 54 per cent of Muslim respondents said the Liberals, 13 per cent said NDP, and only seven per cent said the Conservatives, which is virtually the same way they voted in the last election.
These are some of the key findings of a wide-ranging new survey of Muslim attitudes in Canada as well as attitudes toward them.


The survey — conducted by Environics Research Group in conjunction with the CBC and other clients — interviewed 500 Canadian Muslims and 2,045 members of the general population between Nov. 30, 2006 and Jan. 5, 2007 and is said to be accurate within 4.4 percentage points and 2.2 percentage points respectively, 19 times out of a 20.
In general terms, the poll found that 73 per cent of Canadian Muslims describe themselves as "very proud" to be called Canadians, even if many of them see their religion as coming first in certain instances. As well, they have very little sympathy for extremists or terrorist groups and they aren't crazy about the northern climate — it tops the list of things they like least.
Asked about the arrests last summer of the 18 Muslim men and boys who were allegedly plotting terrorist attacks in southern Ontario, 73 per cent of the Muslim respondents said these attacks were not at all justified and 82 per cent said they had no sympathy for those who wanted to carry them out.
"The good news," says Environics vice-president Keith Neuman, is that despite everything that's gone on over the past few years, "these numbers do not suggest a minority that is feeling isolated and resentful."
Canada's Muslims have different priorities, the poll suggests. Unemployment and immigration issues are more important to them than the health care and environmental concerns that are driving other Canadians.
There are also differences over how much and to what extent minority communities should "blend in" with the Canadian norm.
Almost half (49 per cent) of the general Canadian population feel new immigrants should blend in with the rest of the country, while 40 per cent feel they should be encouraged to maintain their religious and cultural practices. For Canadian Muslims, these numbers are 15 and 65 per cent respectively.
The differences are more pronounced when it comes to women: 81 per cent of non-Muslim Canadians feel ethnic minorities should adapt to mainstream Canadian beliefs about the rights and roles of women, whereas only 36 per cent of Canadian Muslims feel that way, the poll suggests.
A majority of the Muslim respondents (53 per cent) would also like to see Islamic Sharia law adopted for divorce and other family disputes, and a much larger number, 86 per cent, of Canadian Muslims do not feel governments should ban the wearing of headscarves by Muslim women in public, including public schools.
Many of these concerns are more strongly backed by young Muslims under 30, the survey suggests, and Haideh Moghissi, a York University sociologist who has worked extensively in this area, says these should probably be seen as more of a "political gesture than a religious one" by those who have felt their community "bearing the brunt of this suspicion and fear" since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
In fact, almost 60 per cent of Muslim women do not wear any kind of covering on a regular basis, the survey found. And 72 per cent of the respondents said they were not too worried or not worried at all about Muslim women taking on more modern roles in Canadian society.


 

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"More than 80 per cent of Canada's roughly 700,000 Muslims are broadly satisfied with their lives here and only a very small percentage — 17 per cent — feel that many or most Canadians are hostile toward their religion."

I would be more comfortable with over 90% and under 10%.
 

Colpy

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And 12 percent say a terror attack against Canada would be "justified"!!

For those of you who have difficulty with math, that extrapolates to 84,000 Muslims believe Canada deserves to undergo terror attacks.

I think we can stop congratulating ourselves now.
 

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... and make it a credible source.

Asked about the arrests last summer of the 18 Muslim men and boys who were allegedly plotting terrorist attacks in southern Ontario, 73 per cent of the Muslim respondents said these attacks were not at all justified and 82 per cent said they had no sympathy for those who wanted to carry them out.


Its in the OP reverse the math.
 

Colpy

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Its in the OP reverse the math.

It was quoted as 12% said a terrorist attack would be justified..............actually, 73% said the plotted attacks were "not at all just justified", reverse math would indicate 27% thought they WERE justified........thankfully, many don't understand the question, refuse to answer, or just don't know.............

One COULD logically assume a hesitancy to answer that question would indicate some sympathy for the alleged terrorists.......but that is NOT what the poll actually says.

84,000 terror sympathizers is enough to scare the hell out of me anyway.
 

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Approximately 1/10 Canadian muslims felt the attacks were justified, that is disturbing, but no more disturbing than polls where Canadians felt the 9/11 attacks were justified. Regardless of how people feel about Governments, terrorism is not a justifiable act. The fact that anyone believes it is justified is plain wacked. I'm not surprised given the fact that close to half of Canadians also report some degree of bigotry and prejudice.
 

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Approximately 1/10 Canadian muslims felt the attacks were justified, that is disturbing, but no more disturbing than polls where Canadians felt the 9/11 attacks were justified. Regardless of how people feel about Governments, terrorism is not a justifiable act. The fact that anyone believes it is justified is plain wacked. I'm not surprised given the fact that close to half of Canadians also report some degree of bigotry and prejudice.

Why do we have such a soft spot for America in this country? Why is it so wrong that this seems justified to many of us? Do you feel the same about the people that America did the same thing to over the years before the attack?
 

m_levesque

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And 12 percent say a terror attack against Canada would be "justified"!!

For those of you who have difficulty with math, that extrapolates to 84,000 Muslims believe Canada deserves to undergo terror attacks.

I think we can stop congratulating ourselves now.

Yikes, and from people not outside our borders, but living here amongst us. When are we going to have the courage to stop Muslims from coming into this country?
 

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Why do we have such a soft spot for America in this country? Why is it so wrong that this seems justified to many of us? Do you feel the same about the people that America did the same thing to over the years before the attack?

It has nothing to do with getting back at those who as you say did the same things. Civilians are the targets of terrorism, and sometimes politicians, but it's not the people who the terrorists feel wronged them in the first place. Why on Earth would anyone justify violence against those who played no part? Is there any guarantee that those killed are even supporters of said aggressors? The answer of course is no.
 

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Why do we have such a soft spot for America in this country?

Let's see......free democratic nations of majority English speakers........English common law.........most of us have relatives and/or friends in the USA..........largest trading partner, common tele-culture at least...........allies in three wars in the last 100 years.............longest (militarily) undefended border on earth............the USA defended us for 50+ years with little help.......US aid in the catastrophic ice storm...........our natural friends and allies.

Why is it so wrong that this seems justified to many of us?

Before I lose my temper, perhaps you could clarify.....exactly WHAT "seems justified to many of us"????

Do you feel the same about the people that America did the same thing to over the years before the attack?[

Once again, please clarify. Who did America attack?
 

Tonington

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M_Levesque's comments would be one of the disturbing notions I alluded to. To feel that 3000 civilian deaths were in any way justified is to say the least baffling and insulting.
 

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Let's see......free democratic nations of majority English speakers........English common law.........most of us have relatives and/or friends in the USA..........largest trading partner, common tele-culture at least...........allies in three wars in the last 100 years.............longest (militarily) undefended border on earth............the USA defended us for 50+ years with little help.......US aid in the catastrophic ice storm...........our natural friends and allies.



Before I lose my temper, perhaps you could clarify.....exactly WHAT "seems justified to many of us"????



Once again, please clarify. Who did America attack?

Libby math is like Sex Panther...60% of the time it works 100% of the time...but it smells like Big Foot's d**k.