Is God Consistant in anything and Accountable?
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not a great deal beyond just reading it be honest. The thing is i've come to understand it's not a particularly reliable source, since it's been translated and retranslated and was written by humans with prejudices and agenda of their own
of course 
i suppose that's why i stopped searching for a God. I found i was perfectly happy without Him, or maybe with Him, without knowing it.
i suppose that's why i stopped searching for a God. I found i was perfectly happy without Him, or maybe with Him, without knowing it.
of course
i suppose that's why i stopped searching for a God. I found i was perfectly happy without Him, or maybe with Him, without knowing it.
Exactly! YOU are Goddess/God. YOU are the almighty creator of heaven and earth
Its YOUR world
I define "god" as the defining principle which started and maintains the creation of the universe and ALL within it. If you look for an old white guy with a long white beard and flowing robes or a beautiful woman with flowers in her hair accompanied by forest creatures you may be disappointed. Look around you at the miracle of creation, the beauty and splendor of this planet, this star system, the galaxy and the universe. Also look around at the chaos, the death, the hardships that life endures. All this is "god's" work. "God" is a word created by man. Attach the word to whatever principle, cultural norm, myth or legend agrees with your outlook on life and personal beliefs.
there are some who would say you shouldn't do that, rather that it's the other way round
You could:
1/ Seek effect from a prayer cause. We naturally expect stimulus of some sort in this existential world, your approach.
2/ ("taking him for his word" approach) - low acceptance from the Church- Go with the confidence on the power of his promise that "he would not give a snake if a fish was requested (NT)", that he hears you and agrees and simply go on to create the environment to effect what you requested assuming you will get what you want.
3/ ("Inner-failing" approach) - conforms to Church rules of attitude- consider that it is something that would not be good for you to have, so you take a non-chalant attitude and accept the refusal.
I think (2) is perfectly valid, but the Church is luke warm on it, and feels this boarders on testing God. I say it is a conveyance of trust, and predicting the outcome is in favor of me places worth on his promise to give it.
AndyF
And, my friend, you "won't". Our world is a wonderful place, why "on earth" would anyone need a
"figment of imagination" to worship. Is there something missing in our own emotional/mental
strength, so that we can't live our lives here on earth, enjoy our "liveliness", our "energy" and our
"vitality" and do good at whatever interests us, have a family if we wish, or not. I've read posts
that say, if there is no god, what use is there for us, VERY VERY SAD, we are wonderful creatures,
so why do we get stuck trying to find something that isn't there.
Ok, back to the hockey game, enjoy whatever you are doing everyone I know I will.
AndyF said:
The Bible indicates in Isaiah 45:7 that God creates all good and all evil. He is totally unapologetic in that passage.
If I were a god, and wanted to communicate with a colony of ants, how would I do it?
Well, first I think I would enlist the help of some ant and give him a message via my spirit to communicate that message using his own words.
How suppose it would come out? What if the ant I selected had some beef with a neighboring ant colony, or had minimal education, or was hot tempered? How would my message be properly translated to have the maximum effect?
Well, it would go out but somewhat flawed with respect to wording, educational ability, location and or world condition.
After so many of those selected (Call them prophets of mine) the message was somewhat obscured by the delivery of the message by means of imperfect ants.
The next step would be fer sure, was for me to become and ant, and call it “my communicator son ant" long awaited: as prophesied.
Get the drift?
Now here’s the interesting part about this story, though it is only a story, yet the message is there, declaring my coming to the ant colony.
The non-believer would say, impossible! I would have to see if before I can believe it. It is not physical possible. God become an ant? Get out of here! You’re kidding, ain’t shwa?
The believer would say, I believe it because I see the message.
Having faith then: in the message, not the story, is what brings salvation.
The message is, I will send my son into the world by becoming flesh, fulfill all my requirements, and save the world.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Peace>>>AJ
God creates the situation where good and evil can be exercised. The earth is the playing field.
Mankind is in charge of doing what mankind wants at it's own pearl.
But if, mankind embraces God and allows Him to direct its path while in the midst of this arena, the rewards are heavenly!
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
look3467 said:
Are you saying that there is total free will and that suffering is volitional and self created? If so, how does an abortion victim create his own fate?
And thank you for the kind words. My best to you.:angel8:
If you were standing atop one side of the Grand Canyon and of course, the other side would be divided by a great span, and you wanted to go to the other side to be saved: say from starvation for arguments sake.
You found this book which said that there was a bridge to the other side.
You looked and looked but could not find it. But yet the book said that there was one.
Some where saying just have faith, others said, don’t believe that book. Others had just resigned to exist, for to them there was no hope beyond their existence. So, might as well enjoy it while we can.
The great gulf span is between heaven and earth. The bridge is Jesus, and even though your body will die on this side, your soul will fly by Jesus to the other side.
But yet, while your still here, the peace of that understanding is what makes life worth living and of helping others to understand the same things.
The peace of that understanding is what you lack!
How can you have it unless someone tells you about so that you may place your faith and trust in that bridge of promise.
When that happens, then, shall you have the peace you seek, the confidence and knowing that God truly and sincerely loves you with or without your faults.
He takes you as you is, because Jesus paid the price for your salvation, all you have to do is believe in Him.
When you decide to believe, rely and trust that what He said it true, then rest will come in the form of peace.
I know, because I have that peace in the midst of all my trials.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Suffering is limited to humanity as a whole. To some: more so that others.
Embracing God, suffering becomes bearable, for in the sufferings God is manifested as strength beyond the human ability to endure.
If I said I was born to die: why then be born in the first place, if that was all that it is?
We were born to suffer, and in our sufferings, we would learn goodness. We would learn to love and not hate, to forgive and not seek vengeance, to build and not destroy, to save and not to kill, give and show compassion, and to lift up the down trodden.
These things can only be exercised as good works in a world where suffering is a universal truth.
Free will is exercise only upon having knowledge of good and evil, otherwise: innocent and without sin.
A baby is not a sinner, and or born in sin because it is still in darkness of knowledge. If aborted, the baby goes directly to God.
The one who aborts, is the one needing of forgiveness, for the sufferings of that individual is not so much physical, but of vexation of spirit.
She/He will have no peace until forgiveness is realized.
Peace>>>AJ:love9: