Somalia Attack May Have Slain Some Brits

fuzzylogix

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A big difference being that, unlike Italy, Britain wasn't ruled by a murderous, Fascist Dictator when it ruled Somalia.

When Italy invaded British Somaliland Mussolini was their leader (Churchill was ours). Although the British then managed to drive the Italians out thanks to a massive sea invasion.

Actually, it had nothing to do with relieving Italian Somaliland of the Mussolini dictatorship. It was an opportunity to increase British possessions that was seized while Italy was diverted elsewhere. The Italian Somaliland had become a wealthy paradise compared to the British Somaliland because so many immensely wealthy Italians had set up home there, and it was therefore quite a desirable plot of land. This division in wealth between the north and south is partly to blame for the ensuing civil wars.
 

EagleSmack

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it annoys me that any news report here or in the UK that talks about a bombing or other disaster in a foreign place concentrates on how many britons or how many canadians or how many americans were killed. what the hell does it matter who they were? they shouldnt have died

So are you saying that if these were US, UK, or Canadian nationals fighting for Al Queda they shouldn't have died?
 

hermanntrude

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people shouldnt be killed. in an ideal world. saddam houssein shouldn't have died. but he took actions which lead to his death being the only humane option. i'm saying all premature death (even death on-schedule, so to speak) is lamentable.
 

fuzzylogix

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people shouldnt be killed. in an ideal world. saddam houssein shouldn't have died. but he took actions which lead to his death being the only humane option. i'm saying all premature death (even death on-schedule, so to speak) is lamentable.

I dont believe his death was humane. It was a mockery and and an act of revenge that served as a further match thrown into the fire. But then I dont believe in the death penalty. Incarcerate people for life.
 

fuzzylogix

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I'm not sure that that is why the US pushed for the death penalty. I think that they wanted to silence a person who had been instated and originally supported by them. While Sadam was a vile person, he didn't achieve his power by himself.
 

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I dont believe his death was humane. It was a mockery and and an act of revenge that served as a further match thrown into the fire. But then I dont believe in the death penalty. Incarcerate people for life.
In Canada that means holding people in resort spas for the rest of their lives at $85,000 per year (medium security cost), so can we take it out of your pocket? You think Clifford Olson, Willie Pockton are worth that? I spent a lot of time firefighting trying to save people and their houses and I never got $85,000 per year yet these guys deserve having that much spent on them after torturing and slaughtering dozens (or in Hussein's case 10s of 1000s) of people? You probably think giving some sports figure $3 or $4 million per year is better than giving an md a couple hundred grand a year (or RNs $50K/yera), too, I bet.

Sorry, but in spite of the fact that I agree with you generally, I think there should be a death sentence for a few like the 3 I mentioned..
 

fuzzylogix

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I think the Milgards of the world deserve the exorbitant cost,yes.

I am prepared to pay the cost in my taxes, yes.

Just in case, I get wrongfully convicted and sentenced to death.

Not that I plan to commit murder or anything. But then, neither did Milgard.

As for cost, well you cant quote the cost of incarceration without calculating the cost of keeping prisoners on death row with the cost of numerous appeals and stays and the cost of reimbursement for wrongful conviction. The death penalty costs too.

www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/deathpenalty.htm