Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary

[sanctus]

Thanks for anwering my question Sanctus, I've carried them all over Canada from Victoria to NFL they are well traveled Communion waffers. Oh yes I have a garden, and come spring I shall plant them with a rose bush. Thanks again.

I can't resist, probably earning eternal damnation, but take care that when they are planted that little Baby Jesus's do not start springing up..oh I bet you can't believe I wrote that!!! hah hah hah hah hah

 

[Curiosity]

Sassy

If what Sanctus says - about the Baby Jesus springing up.... better save a few of them for your neighbor's side of the fence too! She could use some softening up!

 

[Curiosity]

Sanctus

Well you had a few replies to make today - but I think you felt warmth and sincerity from the people here - and trust we can all restart on a lighter or softer note....

My own problem led to a wonderful new path for me ... perhaps I should be grateful that it happened as I took the challenge and met it head on - even in anger.

Under regular circumstances, I may not have considered my change - and would have missed knowing how strong I am. Perhaps anger and questioning are good things.

Your poetry is wonderful.....am still going over some again and again.... Curiosity

 

[sanctus]

Sanctus

Well you had a few replies to make today - but I think you felt warmth and sincerity from the people here - and trust we can all restart on a lighter or softer note....

My own problem led to a wonderful new path for me ... perhaps I should be grateful that it happened as I took the challenge and met it head on - even in anger.

Under regular circumstances, I may not have considered my change - and would have missed knowing how strong I am. Perhaps anger and questioning are good things.

Your poetry is wonderful.....am still going over some again and again.... Curiosity

I know. I was somewhat surprised and humbled by the response.

On your change, that is as I suggested, that often traumatic events bring about good ends. Wish sometimes that were not so, but it does seem to be far too often.

Thanks for reading the poetry...and for your comments(cheque is on its way to you now )

 

[sanctus]

Sassy

If what Sanctus says - about the Baby Jesus springing up.... better save a few of them for your neighbor's side of the fence too! She could use some softening up!

Sassy could start a cottage industry and start selling "baby Jesus miracle plants"!!!

 

[CDNBear]

First off, we have been through this before. Your "proof" is your opinion, it is not my proof. I accept what the church teaches completely.I also refuse to debate Church doctrine. As I have told you a number of times, I accept all Church teaching without reservation or doubts. That you disagree with the doctrine of the Church is, if you'll permit me, your issue, not mine. It is not my individual place to reform you and bring you back to the Church.

As to your apology, one thing I will share from the teachings of the Church. Forgiveness and apologies are the sorts of things one either offers and accepts or does not. There are no conditions on these actions. You either apologize, in any situation, or you do not. For example, I would not call a man names, and than tell him later I would offer my apologies if he would accept the task of washing my car. Since that seems to be the nature of your apology, you needn't bother making the gesture.

Further, I do not require the apology in the first place.

Umm sanctus, that isn't an opinion, it is a fact. An opinion is your assertion that the Catholic Church is the one true church. The mis translation of the word virgin however is a fact.

Seeing as you truly do not wish to debate, just preach, why are you here? Just spreading the word?

 

[sanctus]

Umm sanctus, that isn't an opinion, it is a fact. An opinion is your assertion that the Catholic Church is the one true church. The mis translation of the word virgin however is a fact.

Seeing as you truly do not wish to debate, just preach, why are you here? Just spreading the word?

It is not a fact. It is your fact, it is not mine or that of the Church. I have told you at least half a dozen times already that I reject your "fact" as being false. You do read English and understand it, yes? Or must you continue to ask the same question and read the same answer? How many times until it sinks it I will not debate this particular issue with you. Let's try one more time, I do not believe for a second that your "fact" in indeed a "fact". I am not alone in this opinion.The Scriptures have been faithfully translated, despite any television programs you may have watched that have taught you otherwise.

And why am I here? Why, to annoy you of course.

 

[Curiosity]

Sanctus

Sassy could start a cottage industry and start selling "baby Jesus miracle plants"!!!

I have no doubt that little critter from Nova Scotia could do just that!!! She is amazing!

Speaking of amazing I have devoured about eight of your poems...and can't take any more right now....
they are way too wonderful to "gluttonize".......

Fantastic writing - it's as if we all share a part in your story in the reading.

I hope more people take advantage of reading them.

 

[sanctus]

Umm sanctus, that isn't an opinion, it is a fact.quote]

Just curious, are you a devotee of the "Dorothy in Oz" cult? That is, if you click your red heels together a sufficient number of times and say "it''s a fact", "it's a fact", that that shall make it suddenly true?

 

[CDNBear]

Umm sanctus, that isn't an opinion, it is a fact.quote]

Just curious, are you a devotee of the "Dorothy in Oz" cult? That is, if you click your red heels together a sufficient number of times and say "it''s a fact", "it's a fact", that that shall make it suddenly true?

Oh suddenly the whiner of attacks seems to be able to dish them out without addressing the questions.

I would assert that it is you that believes in such flights of fancy, this lad is not easily brainwashed by robed sharletons, selling snake oil as the sacrimant.

If you have all this faith and knowledge(which I am beginning to see that you do not), why not counter the post with some sort of rebuttle, instead of dismissal and now attacks?

Is it because you acn only cut and paste the bible?

You obviously haven't read it.

If you get attcked in the future, don't get all baby like, you seem to be able to dish, so if you are any sort of man, you should be able to take it.

 

[sanctus]

Sanctus

Sassy could start a cottage industry and start selling "baby Jesus miracle plants"!!!

I have no doubt that little critter from Nova Scotia could do just that!!! She is amazing!

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I'd buy one

 

[sanctus]

Oh suddenly the whiner of attacks seems to be able to dish them out without addressing the questions.

I would assert that it is you that believes in such flights of fancy, this lad is not easily brainwashed by robed sharletons, selling snake oil as the sacrimant.
it.

There is nothing to take, or to dish out. I have told you and told you I accept Church teaching in the matter. You say you do not. That should, logically, be the end of it. You can't seem to let it go, reminding me of the little boy who is throwing a tantrum because everyone won't play the game he wants to play.

Re-read what you wrote, you did not ask a question. You gave me a point of view and presented it as fact. I rejected it..end of story. What is your purpose in a debate on the issue? Do you assume I shall abandon the Church because you pulled some article out for me to read? Are you prepared to open your mind to the possiblity you're wrong? I'm not, and I suspect you're not either, so move on.

 

[sanctus]

I have no doubt that little critter from Nova Scotia could do just that!!! She is amazing!

Speaking of amazing I have devoured about eight of your poems...and can't take any more right now....
they are way too wonderful to "gluttonize".......

Fantastic writing - it's as if we all share a part in your story in the reading.

I hope more people take advantage of reading them.

Thank you...writing is, obviously, my passion.

 

[CDNBear]

There is nothing to take, or to dish out. I have told you and told you I accept Church teaching in the matter. You say you do not. That should, logically, be the end of it. You can't seem to let it go, reminding me of the little boy who is throwing a tantrum because everyone won't play the game he wants to play.

Re-read what you wrote, you did not ask a question. You gave me a point of view and presented it as fact. I rejected it..end of story. What is your purpose in a debate on the issue? Do you assume I shall abandon the Church because you pulled some article out for me to read? Are you prepared to open your mind to the possiblity you're wrong? I'm not, and I suspect you're not either, so move on.

So if debate is not your reason for being a member here, what is? Preaching?

You are a coward if you can not defend your faith, or worse a fraud.

 

[sanctus]

So if debate is not your reason for being a member here, what is? Preaching?

You are a coward if you can not defend your faith, or worse a fraud.

You are reading what I write, aren't you? I will not debate on THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE is what I have been writing over and over and over. ONE MORE TIME, I ACCEPT CHURCH TEACHING ON THE FAITHFUL TRANSLATION OF THE SCRIPTURES. THAT IS MY "POINT". YOU DO NOT ACCEPT CHURCH TEACHING IN THIS MATTER. END OF STORY" Nothing I submit will further a discussion. We are both pre-determined the other is wrong, so it is pointless to go about in circles, don't you think?

 

[sanctus]

I am beginning to think you are using me as a target for your frustrations with the Church in general.I am not personally responsbile for your relationship with the Catholic Church. I am deeply concerned at the tragic story you shared, and for what it might be worth to you, am sorry you have experienced such events.

 

[CDNBear]

I am beginning to think you are using me as a target for your frustrations with the Church in general.I am not personally responsbile for your relationship with the Catholic Church. I am deeply concerned at the tragic story you shared, and for what it might be worth to you, am sorry you have experienced such events.

No santuwuss, I am addressing your post, back it up.

You can not so you are a fraud then?

I have more of a problem with self righteous, smug, sookie, pussies, that post stuff then won't or can not(which is your problem)back it up.

I came to terms with the church years ago. It's high time the church came to terms with reality as should you.

I am not trying to change your beliefs. I am trying to get you to back your **** up. You won't, so I must assume that you can not.

The whole point of this forum is to debate. You have not offered anything to contradict my post, just more whining about attacks then attacks of your own. Nice going there, says alot about you.

 

[sanctus]

The whole point of this forum is to debate. You have not offered anything to contradict my post, just more whining about attacks then attacks of your own. Nice going there, says alot about you.

Odd, I thought the point was an internet discussion group. Sorry I
do not live up to your lofty standards.

 

[CDNBear]

Odd, I thought the point was an internet discussion group. Sorry I
do not live up to your lofty standards.

They're not lofty standards, they are the point.

Seeing as you only wish to preach, and have no need to defend your faith. Have at it. Preach on. Your hollow defence is more then enough proof, that both you and the church are still as empty as ever.

 

[Sassylassie]

By the by, in your picture, is that you with that adorable baby? A boy? must be a delight for you.

Yep that's me in the picture but the adorable little boy is a loaner, he's my nephew I have hoards of neices and nephews to borrow (some call it baby sitting but I have to much fun to call it that) when life becomes mundane.:wave: