Technical question on WTC collapse

CDNBear

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What about bin laden who perfectly plan the impossible from his deep cave in afganisthan?
Where we can only conclude, that he was a genius to plan this event, but not smart enough to realize it will only advantage their ennemy's business coorporation, and the plan made by PNAC in 1998, which is exactly what the us are doing in middle east, sorry i am not a simple minded enough to believe that crap.
Logic, the simplicity of the plan is immence. It was so simple, it worked. It wasn't a big military monuver, as you conspiracist seem to think it is. In fact, the reason it worked so well, was because it was well planned and compartmentalised. Each team had its own timetable, target and orders. That's it, that's all there is and that is why it worked so well, being planned in a cave in Afghanistan. BTW, he wasn't in a cave until he realized, "OH ****, I pissed dem off dis time!!!". Then it was cave time.
 

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In responce to 'I guess not's cartoon'

Your name says it right.. A few points your cartoon over looks.

First..wheres the relatives from any of the airplane passengers..I have never ever seen them or any stories about them...Isn't that kind of strange? this aproximately 3000 dead...is always considered to be the body count from the WTC..so wheres all the others?

The planes that hit the WTC had no "knobs" in them flying them..because they were gray military remote controlled planes..Now you probably want me to believe there is no such things as remote controlled planes...

Thats just like someone I know just told me when I asked them "What do you think about that torture bill that Congrees OKed and George Bush just passed into law that just eliminated a 700 year old world wide law of abeus corpus..I then told her they can now grab anyone from anywhere and torture at anytime without any reason with no legal rights at all.they can and even and will kill the tortured.she thought I was nuts and said no one would pass such a law and hung up on me...Notice how they came out with that story about the politician who likes young boys and blew the story huge..right after he signed that bill into law to distract the news from reporting on the most horrible law ever passed in US history..or for that matter..anywhere on earth..EVER!

Oh but you probably think I am some conspiracy nut and that never happened either..RIGHT?

now back to this cartooon..Osama Bin Laden is and always was a CIA agent..

The cartoon also says"we could of just bought the oil anyway" wrong again..They destroyed his sovereign country that never threatened nor was it ever a threat to the thieving American killers because he had started selling his oil only in Euro dollars..and refused the fake American.."Federal Reserve NOTES" that are just printed out of thin air..the notes are not and have not been for a very long time now, backed up by gold..The gold was long ago sold off to pay a debt that was owed to a foreign country..

Oh there goes the school bell........see you students tomorrow...I will be having a surprise test on this lesson in a few days..I suggest you go out and do some research on your own..to help you to better understand and confirm the lesson thought today...but be very careful what you sign out of the library or the homeland defence will come and seize you in the middle of the night and torture you until you die..and no one will be allowed to know..did you know that it is even written in the Patriot act that you can and will be seized if you talk or tell anyone about the activities of the Homeland defense SPOOKS..

[Hypothetical] News report:
Teacher in small backwards USA town was killed by an irrate gun toting angry father..the father shot the teacher many times...there is evidence that the shots were all intended to wound and injure and not kill. He said that he was just thinking about the torture bill and that it was fitting..the teacher bled to death and suffered for along time before death.

The father later said that the teacher was a terrorist.

This case never went to court for anyone labeled as a terrorist has no rights and they don't matter as a humans..thats the American Zionist way...
I was going to debunk all your retoric again, but I just could not stop laughing. Maybe later, ok?
 
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In responce to 'I guess not's cartoon'
The cartoon also says"we could of just bought the oil anyway" wrong again..They destroyed his sovereign country that never threatened nor was it ever a threat to the thieving American killers because he had started selling his oil only in Euro dollars..and refused the fake American.."Federal Reserve NOTES" that are just printed out of thin air..the notes are not and have not been for a very long time now, backed up by gold..The gold was long ago sold off to pay a debt that was owed to a foreign country..

And Euro notes are somehow not "fake"??? Give me a break.

Oh no, the black helicopters are coming, better put on my tinfoil hat again....
 

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That's it I'ma believer now. Read this, then do what it says at the end. I'm sorry Logic I believe, you and Towney were RIGHT!!!!!

9/11..THIS IS FREAKY..
1) New York City has 11 letters
2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.
3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.
4) George W Bush has 11 letters. This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:
1) New York is the 11th state.
2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11.
3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11
4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers , was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5 = 11
5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11
6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11
Sheer coincidence. .?! Read on and make up your own mind:
1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.
2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4=11.
3) The Madridbombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.
4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.
Now this is where things get totally eerie:
The most recognized symbol for the US , after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book: "For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."
That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran. unconvinced about all of this Still ..?!
Try this and see how you feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:
Open Microsoft Word and do the following:
1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.
2. Highlight the Q33 NY.
3. Change the font size to 48.
4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS

What do you think now?!!!

NOT, but that is creepy!
 

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Logic, the simplicity of the plan is immence. It was so simple, it worked. It wasn't a big military monuver, as you conspiracist seem to think it is. In fact, the reason it worked so well, was because it was well planned and compartmentalised. Each team had its own timetable, target and orders. That's it, that's all there is and that is why it worked so well, being planned in a cave in Afghanistan. BTW, he wasn't in a cave until he realized, "OH ****, I pissed dem off dis time!!!". Then it was cave time.



BUt where are the evidence?? there is none, unless you believe in miracle.A distorted tapes, found by us officials means absotly nothing , we knew what it meant when they claim they had evidence iraq had wmd.

even Fbi doesnt buy this story


www.fbi.gov


Look for oussama bin laden, and have fun .

So on what do you base alqueada is behind 9-11, nice try.

All we have seen is distortion of the fact, covered up of the fact by the bush administration on 9-11.Just the fact that the anthrax was an inside job , is enough to suspect the us governement to be behind 9-11.
 

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Daniel and Logic the disrespect you and two have show for those who died that day make my skin crawl with fear. People like you infect this planet with your paranoia and cowardly fear. Daniel real people died in the Air Craft that hit the twin towers, and you and your elk will reap what you have sown. Mostly garbage and lies. I hope both of you have to someday face the families of those who died that day, a face to face where you are accountable for the lies and filth you spew. Evil, pure evil.
They are the new voices of the Liberals and NDP who spew Anti-American and Anti-Israeli B.S while giving the real Terrorists a free pass..
 

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They are the new voices of the Liberals and NDP who spew Anti-American and Anti-Israeli B.S while giving the real Terrorists a free pass..



Giving terrrorist a free pass. the conservatives are the king in that categorie, they are blinds supporter of the republicans.
 

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Giving terrrorist a free pass. the conservatives are the king in that categorie, they are blinds supporter of the republicans.

You are a blind supporter of ignorance.

Can you explain how the conservatives are blind supporters of the republicans? In your own words please.
 

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You are a blind supporter of ignorance.

Can you explain how the conservatives are blind supporters of the republicans? In your own words please.
Hang on Durka, she may have to confer with our other host of the anti right brigade, goopher. I hope he drops in here to tell us GWB, was once married to OBL's cousins, niece's, sister's, dog groomer's sister inlaw. And the whole thing was done on a bet over God saving the Towers if everyone believed hard enoughthat Islam wasn't Jewish.

If that didn't make sence, it's because I've been in this tread too too long.
 

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DurkaDurka wrote: Can you explain how the conservatives are blind supporters of the republicans? In your own words please.

Now that would be an interesting and funny read. Please Logic, cough choke, tell us?

Bear wrote: Hang on Durka, she may have to confer with our other host of the anti right brigade, goopher. I hope he drops in here to tell us GWB, was once married to OBL's cousins, niece's, sister's, dog groomer's sister inlaw. And the whole thing was done on a bet over God saving the Towers if everyone believed hard enoughthat Islam wasn't Jewish.

LOL Bear it's like talking to my four year old twin nieces about my mother being my MOM and her also being Nanny they can't understand what young minds can't comprehend.

Danny boy wrote: Originally Posted by danieltowsey
Your so STUPID and uninformed.......this is a responce to sassielassie

Oh my, my feelings are so not hurt Danny boy the pipes the pipes are calling. Admonish me all you like Danny but I've read some of your earlier posts at CC Danny do you remember those? Blaming the Jews for all that is wrong with the world, yep Danny boy is a card carrying member of the KKK. Did you know this Gopher and Danny's followers? So Danny what time can I expect your friends in white robes and hoods, protecting them from being IDed, to show up at my NS home. Will the cross be old wood or green wood, cause I'm enviro friendly and I don't want you fellas burning green wood because it's bad for the environment. Oh Danny boy I hear the pipes a callen from sea to shining seaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
 

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You are a blind supporter of ignorance.

Can you explain how the conservatives are blind supporters of the republicans? In your own words please.


I am not a blind supporter of ignorance, since i don't support crazy idiots like bushes, harpers, and the whole coalition of the willing.

And yes conservatives from canada are terrrorist supporter, since they support everything the bush administration does.Harper even admit to be an idiot at the highest level by repeating over and over that terrorist islamic hate our freedom, hate our way life, only ignorant and simple minded can admit this, which has been proven over and over to be false all the way.


Since i am the one who started this thread, no one from those who believe the official story has been able to explain that if steel loose half of his strenght at 1300F, then there must be an explanation for the time it will take, no one has been able to explain it, but everyone believe this theory withouth being able to understand, quite pathetic.
 
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This is part of an article I found at FrontPageMagazine.com by Patrick Poole. It appears that the Council on American Islamic Relations (so if you are Muslim you aren't an American Citizen). Well well well look whos funding Conspiracy Theorist? CAIR. It makes sense, muddy the waters by blaming the victims and taking the heat of the Extremist Muslim Fanatics.


Keith Ellison has not been the chief beneficiary of CAIR’s giving, however. One name that continually appears in the political contributions of CAIR officials in the 2002, 2004 and 2006 election cycles is none other than Rep. Cynthia McKinney – perhaps the most rabidly anti-war member of Congress and who has accused President Bush of being secretly behind the 9/11 attacks. As Daniel Pipes noted in 2004, McKinney has been the recipient of political contributions from a Who’s Who of radical Islamic organizations in America.

McKinney has had a long and profitable history with CAIR. When she faced a tough challenger in the Democratic primary in 2002 (a primary race she would eventually lose, costing her congressional seat), CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad/Nehad Hammad gave not only his controversial $500 September 11, 2001 donation to her campaign, but a last-minute $1,000 in the closing days of her losing primary campaign, in addition to the $1,000 he gave to Democrat Rep. Jim Moran (VA-8) in the 2002 cycle. CAIR-Philadelphia Chairman Iftekhar Hussain also came through with $3,000 for McKinney that year, joined by fellow board member Mahmood Siddique, who gave $800 bundled with Hussain’s contribution. CAIR-Chicago board member Muhammad Kudaimi also attempted to come to McKinney’s rescue in 2002 with a late pre-primary $1,000 contribution, as well as another $1,000 from his wife, Randa Loutfi, but all to no avail.

And in McKinney’s unsuccessful bid to keep her congressional seat in this current 2006 election cycle, she received $500 from CAIR-Houston President Tarek Hussein, the same man responsible for only two of three contributions to Republicans by CAIR officials on all levels that I could find.

This giving to McKinney exposes a trend in data on giving by CAIR officials in the 2002, 2004, and 2006 elections – giving that appears to be driven more by anti-war and pro-radical Islamic ideology than political calculation. But perhaps for these CAIR officials, they are perceived to be one in the same, as they give to some of the most extreme elements on the American political spectrum.

For instance, between 2002 and 2004, Tarek Hussein gave four separate donations to conspiracy theorist and notorious anti-Semite, Lyndon LaRouche. And in the 2004 Presidential Election, there were no recorded donations by CAIR officials to Democratic Party nominee John Kerry, but two for Green Party candidate, Ralph Nader (by CAIR Co-founders Omar Ahmed and Nihad Awad/Nehad Hammad), and another for Moonbat Democratic candidate, Dennis Kucinich, by CAIR-Southern California Executive Director Hussam Ayloush. If these candidates are representative of the ideology that CAIR identifies with, they is not only out of the American mainstream, but even the mainstream of the Democratic Party itself.

But that notwithstanding, at present CAIR officials are content to liberally spread their campaign contributions to Democrats, apparently on the gamble that they will take one, if not both, chambers of Congress. Cynthia McKinney will be gone, of course, but Keith Ellison is certain to be there to carry the congressional water for radical Islam. With Democrats in control, CAIR is betting that they will be better represented on Capitol Hill in their self-proclaimed goal of eventual Islamic domination for America. Maybe that is something that citizens should keep in mind on November 7th as they go to the polls and vote.
(Just for the record, I have not contributed to any candidate, political party or PAC in the 2002, 2004 or 2006 cycles.)
 

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