The Next Islamophobic Hate Thread

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" Any time you want to convert to a kind and peaceful religion l can mail you a bible...."

I am a literary scholar and will gladly match my knowledge of the Bible against anyone. In fact, I have done so on numerous occasions over the years.

If you have read your history, you will know that philosopher Alan Watts (an American of Christian background) conceded that more people have been killed by Christians in the name of the Bible than for any other reason in human history. This does not excuse the deaths of anyone in the name of the Koran but it demonstrates that Christianity's bloodletting history surpasses that of any other grouping.
 

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I have previously mentioned that the loss of any human being is to be regretted. We must all take a consistent view of humanity as being worthy of our respect no matter what the race or ethnicity of anyone else.

Just as this loss has provoked anger in you, I hope that you feel the same way over the outrageous murder of Anna Polikovskaya who, ironically, was killed by someone of Christian background. I expect that you are equally outraged over the fact that she (a professional reporter who tried to save human lives) was referred to as a "swine" on this forum. If you fail to do so, then your silence will speak volumes so I remain hopeful that you will be consistent in your application of your own principles.

Well she wasnt referred to as "swine" by me. So I am absolved of that. I wouldnt go so far as to say the loss of any human is to be regretted, because some of them, we are better off without. And I have never professed to being a devout christian, in fact I havent been to any church in decades. So that can't be used against me either. But enough about me...And I'm actually not seeing the correlation between the two cases...and at any rate I am only one person. I am speaking of the mulitiudes of peaceful muslims who deplore violence, where are they and why don't we hear more from them? Are they actually raising hell about it and the MSM just won't cover it? Or do they really not care?

This is what your post sounds like to me:

Calling a reporter(who was regrettably murdered) swine somehow justifies or lessens the evil of the actions of Islam's faithful in calling for the head of an infidel. They are only doing their job, after all...

If you want to make a "Thomaska" hate thread,do it, and I'll spew all of my cro-magnon right wing hatred there for all to see. Go for it, but don't dodge my question by saying that you hope that I apply my principles equally. And my question wasn't specifically for you, but you brought it up.

I mean really, can you at least admit that it is beyond ridiculous for these kidnappers to demand Italy hand this guy back to them so that they may remove his head?
 

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Just as you cannot account for what happened to that reporter or for the insults directed to her, I also cannot be held accountable for the actions of a few fanatics.

But you and I can both demand that the rule of law be respected at all times under all circumstances and that each and every human being be judged as per the extent of his/her character rather than his/her religion or ethnicity or allegiances.
 

thomaska

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You're still dodging...

I'm not holding you accountable for those peoples actions. I'll freely admit you were not present at any terroristic events.

Why do the peaceful practioners of Islam not condemn the extremists in their own religion for their actions?

I can't make the question any simpler than that. I'm not talking about you!!! I'm talking about the whole lot of them.
 

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No doubt out of 1.3 Billion Muslims you will find murderers and criminals. But most of these people are reasonable and peaceful. If Islam was as violent as the hate spouting anti-Muslim bigots on this forum would have us believe, they would have killed us and themselves by now.

Sorry an isolated case of violence does not prove that all Muslims are violent.

The country with the highest per capita incarceration rate is the US.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0818/p02s01-usju.html

Yemen has the highest murder rate of any Muslim country. It ranks 27, behind the USA at 24.

Countries with Christian majorities dominate the top 10

#1 Colombia 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia 0.201534 per 1,000 people
#6 Mexico 0.130213 per 1,000 people
#7 Estonia 0.107277 per 1,000 people
#8 Latvia 0.10393 per 1,000 people
#9 Lithuania 0.102863 per 1,000 people
#10 Belarus 0.0983495 per 1,000 people

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita#rest
 

gopher

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I see that some have used words such as ***holes, sc*m of the earth, and other pejoratives.

Well, it wasn't me so I'm absolved of those errors. :)


Kinda ironic in that I have to quote myself here: previously I was accused of attacking other posters by using pejoratives when I did no such thing as my detractors have now conceded. Yet, here are pejoratives openly being used and nobody is objecting.

:rolleyes:
 

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Earth as one Muslims killing Christians is rampart the world over, it's not an isolated incident at tall. Islam isn't a race, so spare me further insults please. Keep in mind that "Arab" invaders have gone into Somalia and forced Extreme Islam down the throats of Moderate Muslims and are hell bent on killing Christians. Two religions that lived in peace until the Arabs arrived with their Fanaticism and Extreme Islamic Doctorine.

Another Article:
Somali Islamists declare : "we will slaughter Christians" - "Somalis are 100% Muslim and will always remain so"

October 17, 2006
MIM: According to the Society for Internet Research more then 500 Christians were killed in Somali over the past decade. The killing of an Italian nun in front of a children's hospital had several precedents which garnered scant media attention.
"....there were several attacks against non-Muslim international relief workers in October–December 2003. On October 5, 2003, the Italian nun Annalena Tonneli—known as Mother Theresa of Africa and who had served in Somalia for thirty years "founding a hospital, orphanages and schools"—was killed by two armed men in front of the hospital. Soon after, on October 20, 2003, a British couple Richard and Enid Eyeington—working for SOS Children's villages in Somaliland—were shot dead by several gunmen in their home inside the school compound. In November 2003 a Kenyan Christian working for the Seventh Day Adventist mission in Gedo, South West Somalia, was reportedly murdered by Islamist radicals..."


The zero tolerance for Christians was epitomised by the words of a Sheik who pronounced a death sentence on them in a 2003 interview:
"... Sheikh Nur Barud, vice chairman of the influential Somali Islamist group Kulanka Culimada...stressed that "all Somali Christians must be killed according to the Islamic law. A Muslim can never become a Christian but he can become an apostate. Such people do not have a place in Somalia and we will never recognize their existence and we will slaughter them". The Sheikh concluded his interview by saying "Somalis are 100 percent Muslim and they will always remain so".
MIM: How ironic that Somali taxi drivers at the Minnesota airport attempting to implement shari'a law by not picking up non Muslim passengers carrying alchohol complained that their "religious rights have to be respected". jOver the years groups of Somali workers have been filing lawsuits against employers for discrimination after they were not granted permission to pray 5 times a day on company time.
More egregious still - Somali Muslims who were resettled in the United States to escape the strife in their home country are sending millions back to the warlords to perpetuate the violence. The government is also comprised of Islamists who believe in equal opportunity murder, and recently executed a citizen for a cell phone dispute to make it clear that shari'a law was to be enforced.
"...The man killed Friday, was sentenced to death for murdering a man in a cell phone dispute. A spokesman for the Islamic courts said the execution will send a message that Islamic sharia law will be enforced..." http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-09-22-voa14.cfm
 

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Why do the peaceful practioners of Islam not condemn the extremists in their own religion for their actions?


We have discussed this issue previously. I made references to the government of Iran which was the first government in the world to condemn 9/11. Other references were made to Nation of Islam, CAIR, the conservative MEMRI, and others who have criticized Islamic terrorism. All of these groupings view those horrendous acts as apostasy.

Here's a re-post of a link on the subject:


http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm


Previously, I have also posted the URL of www.shianews.com which has condemned terrorism with more vigor than has any other web site in the internet. Don't know how you missed these past postings but I hope that you will trouble yourself to look at them and learn that they have, in fact, repeatedly condemned terrorism.

Ironically, many Western orthodox Christian churches (excluding Catholics, Lutherans, and other progressive churches) have failed to condemn western imperialism upon the Middle East. What do you say about them?
 

thomaska

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No doubt out of 1.3 Billion Muslims you will find murderers and criminals. But most of these people are reasonable and peaceful. If Islam was as violent as the hate spouting anti-Muslim bigots on this forum would have us believe, they would have killed us and themselves by now.

Sorry an isolated case of violence does not prove that all Muslims are violent.

The country with the highest per capita incarceration rate is the US.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0818/p02s01-usju.html

Yemen has the highest murder rate of any Muslim country. It ranks 27, behind the USA at 24.

Countries with Christian majorities dominate the top 10


An isolated case...lol!

Instead of indignation and disdain for radical islam's followers, the best the apologists can come up with is calling the rest of us bigots, and pointing out another "people of the book's" shortcomings.

Fine, I concede some christians are dirtbags. Now that thats out of the way, I want to know why the beheadings, hangings, child marriage, sexual slavery, murder of homosexuals, suppression of human rights, and what ever else you want to add to the list, that the radical islamists commit isn't condemned.

And in advance, if you just use the "Well, ________(<----insert "x" religion here)__________(<----insert "X" atrocity here) _________(<----- insert victim here)" excuse, I'm condemning it. Whatever it is...Now, onto my answer please:D
 

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Why do the peaceful practioners of Islam not condemn the extremists in their own religion for their actions?


We have discussed this issue previously. I made references to the government of Iran which was the first government in the world to condemn 9/11. Other references were made to Nation of Islam, CAIR, the conservative MEMRI, and others who have criticized Islamic terrorism. All of these groupings view those horrendous acts as apostasy.

Here's a re-post of a link on the subject:


http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm


Previously, I have also posted the URL of www.shianews.com which has condemned terrorism with more vigor than has any other web site in the internet. Don't know how you missed these past postings but I hope that you will trouble yourself to look at them and learn that they have, in fact, repeatedly condemned terrorism.

Ironically, many Western orthodox Christian churches (excluding Catholics, Lutherans, and other progressive churches) have failed to condemn western imperialism upon the Middle East. What do you say about them?

Cool , I'll go check those out. Thanks
 

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Western imperialism upon the Middle East where, what, when? Gopher the Crusades have been over for a very long time, could you use an example that is relivent to the 21st century? Dragging up dead Christians serves no point, Christians have learned to "Evolve" Gopher find another scrape goat.
 

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Cool , I'll go check those out. Thanks



Aha! I found just the web site you are looking for. See the following which specifically addresses the issue of Afghanistan's apostasy trial and which firmly establishes that there is no basis for holding that man as an apostate:

http://www.muslim.org/intro/apostasyrelease.htm


After you have read that, please go to the homepage so that you can access more info which proves that the Koran is far more peaceful than others suppose on this forum. It even includes words of wisdom from Marmaduke Pickthall on the correct interpretation of jihad.
 

gopher

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Western imperialism upon the Middle East where, what, when? Gopher the Crusades have been over for a very long time, could you use an example that is relivent to the 21st century? Dragging up dead Christians serves no point, Christians have learned to "Evolve" Gopher find another scrape goat.


Oh boy. Haven't I answered and definitively proven the basis to those questions enough times already?
 

gopher

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oh come on, l like gopher, at least types BIG, and has supplied us all with these thread in which he can profess his hatred of Islam...:) :) :)

SO goff, this l saved for your little thread- Now listen up...

The title of this latest threat, “New Attack on America be Afraid” is designed to evoke fear, is part of the mujahedin program that states- "Against them...


story by Lara Jakes Jordan, North County Times:

WASHINGTON - A Web site is claiming that seven NFL football stadiums will be hit with radiological dirty bombs this weekend, but the government on Wednesday expressed doubts about the threat.

The warning, posted Oct. 12, was part of an ongoing Internet conversation titled "New Attack on America Be Afraid." It mentioned NFL stadiums in New York, Miami, Atlanta, Seattle, Houston, Oakland and Cleveland, where games are scheduled for this weekend.

The Homeland Security Department alerted authorities and stadium owners in those cities, as well as the NFL, of the Web message but said the threat was being viewed "with strong skepticism." Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said there was no intelligence that indicated such an attack was imminent, and that the alert was "out of an abundance of caution."

"The department strongly encourages the public to continue to go about their plans, including attending events that involve large public gatherings such as football games," Knocke said.


oh, and l made it your size goph....:)





Hey northstar!

your latest "threat" turned out to be a hoax from some Wisconsin drunk!!!

if I was mean I could give you one of these:




Keep trying ...


 

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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]This is an e-mail I received from a friend, I think it sums up muslims in north america more or less.

Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen? Consider this:
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif] [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran). [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif] [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34). [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256) [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=tahoma,sans-serif][FONT=tahoma,sans-serif]Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.[/FONT][/FONT]
 

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:confused: someone needs help:(




Anyone who is so quick to immediately jump to conclusions when an obvious lie has been announced surely needs help.

As was pointed out previously, Hitler made one lie after another and never showed even a shred of truth to back up his claims when challenged to do so. Yet, he continued his campaign of hate and disastrous war took place thereafter. Bush made one lie after another and you see the mess he created today. And now you see people openly jumping to conclusions because of another baseless lie.

Yeah somebody needs help -- anybody who succumbs to the destructive Hitlerian pattern of lies, stereotypes, warism, and hatred. Big help.
 

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Instead of personally debunking all the above BS posted by anti-Muslim bigots, I will reference a web posting which already does this:

Informed Comment


Thoughts on the Middle East, History, and Religion

Juan Cole is President of the Global Americana Institute


Muslims and the 5 Questions

Somebody named Dennis Prager wrote a frankly bigotted op-ed for the LA Times asking "Muslims" 5 questions. The questions are fairly easy to answer in themselves, but the stupidity of the whole framework is what is objectionable. Why is it that our media personalities cannot think their way out of a paper bag? Why don't high school civics courses alert them that there might be a problem with stereotyping everyone that you categorize as belonging to a particular group?

Prager begins his "questions" directed, apparently at all 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, by referring to the recent riots in France. He is thus framing his questions with the implication that those Muslims are all trouble-makers and have something to answer for. But the alienated in-between young African- and North African-French are mostly not very involved in religion and a lot of them couldn't tell you how to pray to save their lives.

Prager's first question is why "Muslims" are so "quiet" (implied is: "about terrorism emanating from other Muslims"). Of course, Muslims have been anything but quiet about terrorism and all sorts of Muslim leaders and groups have repeatedly condemned it. Muslims haven't been "quiet." Prager hasn't been listening.

Moreover, the mere assertion that an act was done in the "name of Islam" would not necessarily connect it to Islam in the eyes of other Muslims. All kinds of crazy things are done in the name of Judaism and Christianity and Buddhism. Why didn't the American Buddhists demonstrate when Aum Shinrikyo let Sarin gas loose in the Tokyo subway? Did American Catholics demonstrate against Franco's policies in Spain? Why should American Catholics even feel responsible for those things? Why should Indonesian or Bangladeshi Muslims demonstrate about something that happened in distant Jordan, which had some local context they don't even understand? People who are actually Muslims don't take seriously small groups of cranks who do bizarre things in the name of Islam.

And let's turn the tables on Prager. Let's ask why he is so quiet.

Let's take the following item:


' Jewish settlers began attacking Palestinians as they returned home yesterday from the funeral of an Israeli soldier, shooting dead a 14-year-old girl and wounding several others in the West Bank city of Hebron, Palestinians said.

They said the settlers began attacking shortly after the funeral in Hebron's Old City, throwing stones at houses and cars, and breaking windows.

Nizin Jamjoum, 14, was standing on the balcony of her home when she was shot in the head and died, said her brother Marwan, 26, who was injured.

At least six Palestinians were hurt, including one who was stabbed, Palestinians said.'​
Has Prager ever joined a demonstration against the fascist actions of the far rightwing Israeli settlers who are stealing Palestinian land every day and from time to time killing them? Does he care about Nizin Jamjoum or her family? Nizin was a little girl. Her parents doted on her. They fed her and raised her. She played with brothers and sisters. She said cute things that made everyone's dimples come out. And then an armed colonist shot her dead, in the head. Her cranium was crushed, her brain oozed out the back of her little head. Does Prager care?

Then he asks, Why are none of the Palestinian terrorists Christian?

Prager is not only stereotyping an ethnic group, he is profoundly ignorant. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a much more violent group than Arafat's Fateh, was led by Christian George Habash. In fact, the PFLP had to hire Eastern Orthodox priests to minister to its fighters. Christians in the Middle East, whether Palestinian Christians, or Maronite Christians in Lebanon, have been just as much parties to the violence in the region as Muslims. And, of course, Israeli Jews haven't exactly been pacifists.

Then he asks, Why is only one of the 47 Muslim-majority countries a free country?

Well, gee, Dennis. Let's see.

There is the legacy of European colonialism, which ruled most of the Muslim world with an iron fist and established modern bureaucratic practices that were authoritarian, which the post-colonial states inherited. (If you want to understand the Pakistani military, you have to understand the colonial British Army of India).

And, the Russians invaded Muslim Central Asia in the 19th century. They first subjected those peoples to Tsarist absolute monarchy, and then to Stalinism. Vladimir Putin and Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan both have authoritarian tendencies, and it is because they both come out of the old Soviet system. You want to blame Islam for this?

It wasn't just colonialism. Neo-colonialism has played a key part. Iran was a parliamentary democracy in the early 1950s. Then its prime minister asserted Iranian ownership of Iran's own oil. And the UK and the US objected to this step, and sent in the CIA to overthrow the elected government of Iran, and install an absolute monarchy for all the world like Louis XIV! Courtesy of Dwight Eisenhower and Winston Churchill.

The political scientists now think that democracy is best sustained where the per capita income is at least $8000 a year. It isn't an absolute requirement, but it seems to help. There are a lot of poor Muslim countries because they are in resource-poor regions (arid parts of Africa and the Middle East).

Why bring ethnicity into it? Is that really the likely explanation? Prager could ask the same question about the Chinese. Why is only one Chinese-majority society (Taiwan) moving toward democracy? Does he think it really has something to do with being Chinese? Authoritarianism in East Asia used to be attributed to Confucianism, but then Japan and South Korea (and lately Taiwan) challenged that thesis. Things change. If we were in the 1930s Prager could ask what was with those Fascist Catholics.

Whatever the answer is to Prager's question, it has little or nothing to do with the religion of Islam per se.

Prager's number 4 is Why are so many atrocities committed and threatened by Muslims in the name of Islam?

Prager's list is skewed to begin with. He lumps together localistic national liberation movements (Chechnya) and individual crimes of passion with the guerrilla movement in Iraq, and attributes them all to "Islam." In Prager's weird world, everything Muslims do is in the name of Islam.

I append below a list of the number of murders per year in a fair number of the world's countries, and have put the Muslim-majority countries in bold. They cluster at the bottom, not the top. If we wanted to think in Prager's warped way, we'd have to ask what is with those Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians, that they are so murderous.

Prager's number 5 is Why do countries governed by religious Muslims persecute other religions?

Countries governed by religious anythings have persecuted other religions. This is true not only for religious ideologies but also for secular ideologies like Communism and Fascism. Make an idea into an "-ism" and boom, you get gulags. Religion or no religion. You think Muslims were tolerated in Franco's Spain? And, by the way, why can't a Muslim guy marry a Jewish girl in Israel if the two love each other? Hmmm. Could it be that the rabbis are unsympathetic to young love? Prager doesn't seem to know that Terry Nichols of the Oklahoma City bombing was in fact part of the Christian Identity Movement, or that fanatical Christians have killed abortion doctors in the name of Christianity.

There is something seriously wrong with the questions themselves. They come out of a weird mindset that lumps Malaysians with Moroccans, Kyrgyz with Sudanese, and Uigurs with Moro Filipinos, all just because they have a common heritage in one of the great world religions; it isn't as if their actual local practices and beliefs are all exactly the same.

The questions are symptomatic of prejudice and sloppy thinking. They demean Americans by the posing of them. Muslims as individuals haven't done anything wrong, and don't have to answer Prager's silly questions.

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Now let us turn international murder rates. Obviously if we look at absolute numbers, the big countries will have the most murders. But even so, there are some surprises. Despite being relatively small countries, Colombia, South Africa, Mexico, Venezuela and Thailand seem particularly murderous societies. You will note that none is Muslim. Only Indonesia gets into the top ten, among Muslim countries, and at some 200 million, its rate of murder is far less than any of the countries above it. The good people of genteel Washington, DC kill more people every year than do the Yemenis!

In fact, the US is approximately 5 times larger in population than Britain. The British rubbed out 850 people last year, so you'd expect the US to have whacked a little over 4,000. In fact, we polished off three times that many. Why are we three times as violent as the people in the UK? Shouldn't the gentle Yemenis be asking Americans what is wrong with them?

We don't appear to have good UNO statistics on crime for very many Muslim countries. The ones we do have cluster toward the bottom, both with regard to absolute numbers and with regard to rates per 1000 population. Prager's lurid imagination of Muslims as unusually violent isn't borne out by these statistics.

Of course, murder rates are only one index of violence. But if you totalled up how many people the US has killed in war in the past 100 years and compared it to those killed by Muslims, the result would not reflect well on the US, I promise you. It is widely thought that we killed some 2 million Vietnamese, and a similar number of Koreans, in those two wars alone. The biggest toll taken by Muslims was the Iran-Iraq War, which probably involved nearly a million deaths. It is not that the Muslims are better than Americans. It is that the Americans have been deeply involved in industrialized warfare as a sovereign state for much longer than Muslim states.

http://www.juancole.com/2005/11/muslims-and-5-questions-somebody-named.html