The Next Islamophobic Hate Thread

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oh and l am sorry goph if l suggested you were plural, One is plenty!!!:D :D

here is the rest of that reading material...

The list of relevant Qur'anic citations goes endlessly on -- 109:1-6; 88:21-26; 6:57; 2:62; 57:27; 5:92; 4:90; 49:31 and at least as many more -- including yet another overarching verse which is much revered in the interfaith quest for Abrahamic brotherhood, as follows:
[QUR'AN 5:48, in part] ".....To each among you we have prescribed a Law and an Open Way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you; so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He who will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute."

In this same vein, even many Afghan hard-liners might be softened by the words of onetime Muslim Brotherhood counselor to Ayman al-Zawahiri of al Qaeda infamy -- Hassan al-Tubari. It was he who in the early 1990s founded the annual Popular Arab and Islamic Conference, traditionally attended by such radical pre-al Qaeda groups as the PLO, Hamas, Egyptian Jihad and Hizballah.

According to al-Tubari: "How can it be imagined by a rational person that Allah, who has compelled none to believe, allows us the right to compel others and force them to believe?..If Almighty Allah has granted us the merit of freedom, he who wants to believe is allowed that right and so too the one who wants to disbelieve." [He then goes on to sharply distinguish peaceful conversion from Islam to forbidden wartime treason against Islam.]

Yet, despite these many Qur'anic evidences and proofs of Abdul Rahman's innocence, the empty charge of "apostasy" is likely to remain alive -- particularly if President Karzai and his supporters fail to cite these in faithful justification of their position.
Focus Instead on The Al Qaeda Apostasy -- UBL's Forbidden "War Against Society"
While both the recent Danish cartoons episode and Mr. Rahman's conversion are understandably offensive to many Muslims, both are mere distractions from the real enemy. Neither comes anywhere near the blasphemous disrespect for and desecration of the Holy Qur'an and of Allah Himself by what should forevermore be called “The al Qaeda Apostasy”.
Against this supremely arrogant attempt by Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and their Servants of Satan followers to redefine Islam in their own murderous image, the Muslim World should enter now into a worldwide consultative "ijtihad" for the purpose of declaring a Truly Holy War (a spiritual Jihad al-Kabir) against this unpardonable al Qaeda insult to the compassionate, merciful, peaceful and just Allah who is repeatedly so described by the Qur'an.

Those who demand that poor, terrorized, exiled Mr. Rahman be executed should explain why they fail to apply this same harsh condemnation to such ruthless al Qaeda-style crimes and mortal sins as

· Wanton killing of innocents and noncombatants, including many peaceful Muslims
· Decapitating the live and desecrating the dead bodies of perceived enemies
· Committing and enticing others to commit suicide for reasons of intimidation
· Fomenting hatred among communities, nations, religions and civilizations
· Ruthless warring against nations in which Islam is freely practiced
· Issuing and inspiring unauthorized and un-Islamic fatwas (religious edicts)
· Using some mosques as weapons depots and battle stations, while destroying others
· Forcing extremist and absolutist versions (and perversions) of Islam on Muslims, when the Qur’an clearly says that there shall be “no compulsion in religion”
· Distorting the word “infidels” to include all Christians, all Jews and many faithful Muslims, as well -- when the Qur’an calls them all “People of the Book” (the Old Testament) and “Sons of Abraham,” and calls Jesus one of Islam’s five main Prophets and even its "Messiah"
· Deliberate misreading, ignoring and perverting of passages of the Qur’an, the Hadith and the Islamic Jurisprudence

If all of these willful acts of Hirabah (forbidden "war against society") and of arrogant istihlal (bin Laden's mortal sin of "playing God" in wholesale desecration of Quranic Islam) do not constitute an Apostasy worthy of death in this life and of Jahannam (Eternal Hellfire) in the hereafter, then there is no such thing.
But, of course, there is such a satanic thing and, by Allah's and the Qur'an's own eternal standards, this is certifiably it.


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A Washington DC-area writer, public speaker and anti-Terrorism strategist, Jim Guirard was longtime Chief of Staff to former US Senators Allen Ellender and Russell Long. His new TrueSpeak Institute is devoted to truth-in-language and truth-in-history in public discourse.
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Wow, now l just wonder what this means?????????????????????????????
 
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Once again you missed the fact that I already discussed and agreed with CDNBear that radical Islamists such as al-Qaeda commit apostasy. If you do not beleieve me, ask him. Therefore, your post is redundant.

I am still waiting for proof that I used pejorative on anyone in this thread.
 
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Gopher keeps defending Islamic Terrorism because he wants these 72 virgins Terrorists believe they will get when they commit Jihad in the name of Allah..
 
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no wonder women are converting, they want the virgins tooo...assuming that they are the women's gender preferance...
 
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I find the situation of discrimination and hatred shown by muslims' very disturbing.

So far, l have sought to figure out how this Quran and the interpretive extras can ever bring about a peaceful world of co-existance...

the more l learn the more violent and intolerant the Muslims are showing themselves to be...

so if there are those of us who make comments to lighten the mood of the negativity and murder of thousands of innocent Westerners, all l can say is CHEERS!!!!
 
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Discrimination as practiced by anyone is wrong and cannot be justified. Any laws which deal with this issue (like any principle) need to be applied equally to all who discriminate. This includes everyone whether from the East or West.


BTW, still waiting for proof that I used pejorative on anyone here.
 
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I have no idea what you ar etalking about Goph...I looked around but you aren't explaining...

so, anyway, if l have wounded you by making a comment that suggests that you have said anything negative about the other threaders than l only was joking and l am sorry if the comment l was making at whatever time was not true.

At least you are coming up with decent replies, and that is very much appreciated by me, even when l completely disagree.

So if you are holding out for an apology of anything l said that was not true than this is it....and l hope you accept it as my white flag of truce...

with greatest of admiration and apologisation, northstar
 
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I'm waiting on an apology then too, since l was called the r***** word.....

hey cdnbear, wake up...we want apologies for being such a criticising ...
 
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Goph is considering Christianity since he/she has recently learnt that they have run out of virgins....:cool:
 
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Terrorist plot through Mosques is uncovered

Just another ‘take-over-the-world’ plot was foiled recently and yesterday the eight men, hoping to get their virgins in Allah heaven were instead sentenced to a Jordanina prision . They were found to be preparing attacks to murder Iraqi Police and destroy training centres in Jordon. The idea was to form 10 terror cells to continue the international effort to terrorise the world. Their name, A-Taifa Al-Man’soura {meaning The Victorious Sect or get ready Virgins}was set up when Iraq was invaded by the U.S as a response to terrorist actions…


The suspects were using various forms of recruitment, such as the internet to lecture on Jihad and to gain sympathy in order to convince others to fight Cristians and Israelis internationally. Another path of recruitment was brochures and CD distributed in Mosques. Recruitment efforts would all lead to military training to support the terrorists.

For the complete and official story here is the link-

http://themedialine.org/news/news_detail.asp?NewsID=15419

 
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