Things I don't like about Canada.

ottawabill

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see told you all about Toronto but you all didn't listen did you..and now look at the mess your in :)

I lived in Toronto for better than 20 of my adult years and as well thought Toronto issues were the only issues.Now I know better, I also know there are more people in this country who don't live in Toronto then do live there so they are a minority :)

Besides all Toronto is , is a wanna be New York..it will never happen I tells ya!!
 

Said1

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How many times do I have to say it? Ottawa is where it's at. I mean, where else can you throw rocks at Quebec? :p
 

Toro

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see told you all about Toronto but you all didn't listen did you..and now look at the mess your in :)

I lived in Toronto for better than 20 of my adult years and as well thought Toronto issues were the only issues.Now I know better, I also know there are more people in this country who don't live in Toronto then do live there so they are a minority :)

Besides all Toronto is , is a wanna be New York..it will never happen I tells ya!!

This post is 100% dead on.

I lived in the GTA for 4 years, and I came to the conclusion that nobody in Toronto should complain about the ignorance of Americans considering how myopic that city was.

But a prof of mine once asked a student

"Where do you live"

Response: "Yonge and St. Claire."

Prof. "Ah, northern Canada."

I laughed.
 

s_lone

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To all those who are pissed out by Quebec's "bitching"...

DEAL WITH IT!!! Quebec's independance movement is not about to end (independance does not necessarily equal separation) and you might as well get used to the idea that Quebecers stand up for what they want.

Quebec is not signed onto the present Constitution and this is one of Canada's great failures. If Canada is willing to accept this type of situation it must deal with its reality.

In 1995, literally half plus a couple of the population of Quebec decided it was better to stay in Canada and all Quebecers have decently respected this democratic choice despite its fragility.

The Bloc Québecois is a federal party that concerns itself primarily with matters that concern Quebec. I understand how frustrating it can be for other Canadians to see a seperatist party take hold of the House of Commons but the fact is that this party is elected democratically and in complete legality! If you've got a problem with that, do something about it! If Canadian law decided that the Bloc Québecois should not be allowed into the House of Commons you would see the seperatist movement flare up so fast you wouldn't believe it!!!
 

Sassylassie

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To all those who are pissed out by Quebec's "bitching"...

DEAL WITH IT!!! Quebec's independance movement is not about to end (independance does not necessarily equal separation) and you might as well get used to the idea that Quebecers stand up for what they want.

Quebec is not signed onto the present Constitution and this is one of Canada's great failures. If Canada is willing to accept this type of situation it must deal with its reality.

In 1995, literally half plus a couple of the population of Quebec decided it was better to stay in Canada and all Quebecers have decently respected this democratic choice despite its fragility.

The Bloc Québecois is a federal party that concerns itself primarily with matters that concern Quebec. I understand how frustrating it can be for other Canadians to see a seperatist party take hold of the House of Commons but the fact is that this party is elected democratically and in complete legality! If you've got a problem with that, do something about it! If Canadian law decided that the Bloc Québecois should not be allowed into the House of Commons you would see the seperatist movement flare up so fast you wouldn't believe it!!!

Sassy says:
No you deal with it, re-read your post you sound like the "Pampered spoon fed over subsidized snot noses that you are". The rest of Canada is fed up with you dirty diapers and your tantrums of we want "Special Status" blah blah. Special, there's nothing special about Quebec-nothing at-all. Quebec Speratists movement is a "JOKE", a bunch of University Students and Old Hippys-as for flaring up? That I'd like to see. What are they going to do? Remember Quebec isn't know for it's "Fighting Spirit" remember World War two?

Regarding Independance versus Seperation rather arragant of you to "Assume" we'd let you decide isn't it, did it occur to you that the Rest of Canada might have a say in what happens should Quebec "Try" and leave Canada? You do know there'd be no more Federals Jobs, no crossing at Hull to go to work everyday those Jobs are for "Canadian Citizens" not Quebecs. Then theres the National Debt, that is really going to cripple a "Free" Quebec. The list is endless. Mean while here in the East we are enjoying our "Little Oil" boom, someone has to pay for all those cheap Child Care spots in Quebec . Sassy bending down hands S_lone his sookie back, nap time sunshine.
 

s_lone

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Sassy says:
No you deal with it, re-read your post you sound like the "Pampered spoon fed over subsidized snot noses that you are". The rest of Canada is fed up with you dirty diapers and your tantrums of we want "Special Status" blah blah. Special, there's nothing special about Quebec-nothing at-all. Quebec Speratists movement is a "JOKE", a bunch of University Students and Old Hippys-as for flaring up? That I'd like to see. What are they going to do? Remember Quebec isn't know for it's "Fighting Spirit" remember World War two?

Regarding Independance versus Seperation rather arragant of you to "Assume" we'd let you decide isn't it, did it occur to you that the Rest of Canada might have a say in what happens should Quebec "Try" and leave Canada? You do know there'd be no more Federals Jobs, no crossing at Hull to go to work everyday those Jobs are for "Canadian Citizens" not Quebecs. Then theres the National Debt, that is really going to cripple a "Free" Quebec. The list is endless. Mean while here in the East we are enjoying our "Little Oil" boom, someone has to pay for all those cheap Child Care spots in Quebec . Sassy bending down hands S_lone his sookie back, nap time sunshine.

Sassylassie, I don't want to start a bitter argument. But some things you say just convince me you don't know understand much about Quebec's independence movement. Is Quebec's independance movement a "joke" because it has a very non-violent history? Is it a "joke" because the YES side lost by 1% 11 years ago? Is it a "joke" because Quebec's not signed onto the Constitution?

Saying the independance movement is only about hippies and university students just demonstrates your ignorance on the subject. Independance movements are found everywhere even where you live. Starting with family, neigborhoods and cities going to countries like Canada, communities usually tend to work hard to maintain some form of power over the matters that concern them. Nations are just big communities with common laws and cultural heritage (although this is a lot fuzzier today...).

Whether you see us as a nation or not, we will act like a nation, in or out of Canada. You misunderestimate the intelligence of Quebecers if you believe we don't know about what kind of consequences could follow the seperation of Quebec from Canada. For a great majority of Quebecers this issue is a very serious one no one takes it litely. You may perceive us as being whiny but the rest of Canada has the responsibility to be clear as to what it expects from Quebec. If Canada believes Quebec has gone too far in its demands or actions, it must speak out. Many Canadians outside Quebec need to understand the fact that in Quebec's francophone culture, the concept of Canada is not as personal as it can be in any other part of the country. Canada is seen as an union, be it economic, social, cultural etc. They want a Canada that is a true confederation and not a federation. The powers we want we expect every province to have... As long as we feel in control of what's going on in Quebec. That's all there is to it. Right now Quebec is part of Canada and it's fine that way. But Quebec can change and so can Canada; we all change eventually and I'm very happy that where I live, there is an evolving political debate on "independance".

Quebec is not asking for a "special" status. It is asking for QUEBEC'S status plain and simple.
 

ottawabill

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Things I dislike about Canada?

Only one thing. People making lists of things they dislike.

But if you can't talk about your dislikes then it's NOT a democracy!!!!

Try going to North Korea and tell them their great leader is a dweb...go one try!!!

It doesn't mean you don't like your country just because you have problems with it..It's a matter one pin pionting those problems and having the balls to do something about them.
 

Sassylassie

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You tell him Bill, I make a list for everything I do I'm type A we make lists and then a list for the list and in case those lists get lost I make a master "List". I get on my "Own" nerves. I need an advil now.

I don't like Canadian Bacon-it's not bacon but skinny ham, I don't like poutine that stuff will kill you. It hits your stomach with a thunk and you do not need to eat for two weeks. I don't like the phrases You betcha, what's up, some nice day or right fine. I think Toronto should be given to Quebec as a good will gift from the rest of Canada, it will tell Quebec how much we treasure them as a Province. Snickering now.
 

Dalreg

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But if you can't talk about your dislikes then it's NOT a democracy!!!!

Try going to North Korea and tell them their great leader is a dweb...go one try!!!

It doesn't mean you don't like your country just because you have problems with it..It's a matter one pin pionting those problems and having the balls to do something about them.

I never said anything. I merely pointed out my dislike. That is it!.
 

turubawebmaster

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Why should we pay for billingual services? it's a waste of money.... If everyone spose the same language it would be more economic for services.... Id say scrap billingualism and let the provinces decide whether we should have these services or not..... I think the education system is very pathetic especially with the school buses.... They have to ship a different bus just for one French student in Ontario.... I live in Ontario and I disagree with it..... The Bloc Quebecois isn't even spose to be a federal party and yet they are.... I dislike very much the fact that Quebec has been getting away with violating the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.... I dislike quebec politics the most and the fact that they're French only and stick their nose everywhere else telling us to be billingual.... What I dislike in Ontario is that Toronto has done very little for the people in Northern Ontario
 

SlayerJake

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I hate how Canadians think that all us Quebecers think that we want to seperate, though it's only the hardcore seperatists from eastern quebec (quebec city the most) and country folk that want to... Montrealers don't. I love Quebec a lot, we have the best parties, the loudest crowds at hockey and concerts and a lot of great talent to share with the world. But jesus H. christ, if quebec seperates I am definately going to have to move elsewhere in Canada. In other words, I love quebec but I love Canada even more.
 

turubawebmaster

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i dont think it's all quebec that wants to seperate either but the culture and society is so different, the history and the Bloc Quebecois party that makes canadians believe that quebec wants to seperate from Canada... I've been to Quebec and a lot of nice places but I just don't like the politics there... I think it would be sad to see Quebec seperate because of it's masterpiece and nature... Don't forget the St Lawrence goes through Quebec which Canadians highly depend on... Montreal has one of the largest intermodal ports and has a lot of big companies however a lot have moved to Toronto during the FLQ and when bill 101 was passed.... I think Canada is does depend on the St Lawrence a lot for major ports and access to the Great Lakes... I just think some people in Quebec have to realize a lot of things about Canada such as making Quebec a place for English speaking Canadians as well as French speaking.... I think right now it's unfair that Quebec has laws that say you have to live in French while you have the choice of language in the rest of Canada... Don't forget that only 1 provinces in Canada has French official and 1 officially bilingual while the 8 other provinces including the territories are English official.... I think the all the provinces together should decide if Canada should be English or bilingual.... I think it should be English because the majority speaks it but I don't see why it would impact French speaking and I'm part french and know some at least but I'm not gonna ask for services in French because I don't really see the point.... I just think everyone should speak the same language in this country... I'd say French speaking can preserve their language by speaking it at home and among each other and having activities in French and French at school because it's part of their heritage.... I think it's important to be able to read and write French as well even if English is your first language... I'm French and I love the food but I just don't like speaking it that much
 

flinx

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as soon as i can, i'm going to move to a very small town in ontario from windsor where i've lived for over 20 years, far too long. i want to feel like i'm in canada again, where the only other language you here on the street is french. where if you don't have the b.s. in your face, you'll not notice it and be better off for it.
 

Colpy

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Oh boy, a complaints dep't!

In absolute order of importance.

1. Idiotic gun laws.

2. A completely baseless national sense of moral superiority.

3. The Liberal Party of Canada (see 1 and 2)

Those would be my top three...........