Clearly, in this battle of ideas you are unarmed.
No, it is not a "battle of ideas". It's a set of outrageous, bizarre, unsubstantiated theories based on conjecture and pseudo-science, mainly by people with a political axe to grind.
80+ people suddenly didn't react in a way that people have acted since the dawn of man
You mean like all the airline hijackings in the 1970s when people were told not to resist and they wouldn't get hurt, and the authorities telling people not to resist hijackers during that time so they wouldn't get hurt, and the hijackers on 9/11 who almost certainly told the passengers not to resist or they'd be hurt. Yeah, that's right, they "suddenly didn't react the way people have acted since the dawn of time". Or maybe they did.
And THEN the conspiracists try to tell us, that in the one case where they
did actually resist, and the plane crashed in PA, well, not THAT wasn't resisting, the airplane was shot down by a missile! lol lol The conspiracists want it both ways.
on three different planes, all on the same day,
All on the same day nonetheless! No! I was expecting them to space it out over a few months. Surely, the plan would have worked better that way, no? Surely, after one plane had flown into one of the Towers, within a few weeks, everyone would have forgotten about everything, and then BAM!, fly the plane into the other Tower. Then, wait a few months - because surely, it will take
at least a few months for society to wipe away the memories of two planes flying into the Towers from our collective conscience, then POW!, fly the last plane into the Pentagon. I'm sure air defenses would have been down! It's only logical, right!
causing 3 buildings steel structure buildings - that have never collapsed
Gosh, they've never collapsed, huh? Before when? I must have missed the first time they flew planes in the WTC and the towers didn't fall.
by only hitting two of them"
Captain Chris Boyle
Engine 94 - 18 years
Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?
Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.
Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?
Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/boyle.html
dispite each building being built to withstand the crash
Good Lord! They were
built to withstand the crash, yet somehow, they still fell! Amazing! I never knew engineers received knowledge directly from God so that they would
never be wrong.
I've posted this here before, but I'll do it again because it bears repeating
Here's a bridge that collapsed that wasn't designed to.
http://www.enm.bris.ac.uk/anm/tacoma/tacoma.html
There is even an mpeg you can download and view.
But how can that be, when the bridge was designed to not collapse? How? Bush must have been behind it, that's how. Or the Jews!
while simultaniously flying another plane to hit the pentagon - which is captured by nearly a dozen camera's - all confiscated, never returned and never allowed to be seen even by the 911 commission.
I wonder how CNN got video on its website then?
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07/gen.pentagon.pictures/index.html
Photos from when the terrorists crashed the planes into the Pentagon.
Plane wreckage
Fuselage
Fuselage at bottom, near the firetruck, with the letter "C"
Wheel rim
Mechanical debris
Compressor rotor
I've got more, but you get the idea.
The Pentagon was hit by a plane.
BTW - you are aware that the people that sold you this bill of goods that you seemingly buy without question have been caught in lie after lie, after lie - about the very thing that this event started.... aren't you?
The conspiracists first come to a preconceived notion and then work backwards. George Bush said the other day that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. I bet him you don't believe him.
And you call my thoery a conspiracy?
No, I did not call your theory a conspiracy. I called you a "conspiracist" because you believe in bizarre conspiracy theories. You didn't like "
foiler" after all.
Wow, I'd be wrong. But you offer no reason why I'd be wrong? Seems par of the course for you. Now you wait over a month before responding, and that is the best you can come with?
You're happy now, no doubt.
I'll let Rex Murphy finish it.
The assassination of John F. Kennedy spawned a literature of suspicion and conjecture of intimidating bulk and mass. The “grassy knoll” and the ”second gunman” have inspired more plots than the membership of the International Association of Crime Writers. It’s a law of this kind of thinking: the further from the event under scrutiny, the greater the unhinged speculation surrounding it.
Expect - except for Sept. 11, 2001. I would have thought the horrors of that day, the magnitude of the attacks, the immense coverage of the actual crashes into the towers, the even more immense coverage in the days after the attacks in New York and Washington, and the downing of the jet over Pennsylvania, had evacuated that day of all mystery and speculation. We know that day too well.
We had swiftly learned the identities of all 19 hijackers. We had seen, in (alas) real time, the buildings collapse, we had seen the heroic efforts of the firefighters and police in New York, we have since read and heard of the numerous cellphone conversations before the brave passengers of Flight 93 tried to wrest control of the doomed jet from the hijackers. We have seen the video of Osama as he narrates his success and takes pride in his dear accomplishments.
What else is there, the reasonable mind pleads to ask? But no. The questioning of 9/11 is a full-blown industry on the Internet. The buildings didn’t collapse because two fuel-loaded jets crashed into them; Flight 93 was brought down with a missile - the fantasies spin on. Books have been written telling the “real truth” of the day.
One truly bizarre, or comic, on-line posting conducts an experiment (with pictures) using rabbit wire, a concrete cinder block, and a container of kerosene to “prove” the steel pillars of the trade towers would not have melted in in the fires that followed the crash. Engineers who have visited this site have left jibbering and in tears.
Bush was behind 9/11. The Israelis were behind 9/11. Bush and the Israelis were behind 9/11. Osama didn’t do it. Thousands of people engineered a controlled demolition of the towers; the hijacked jets crashing into them were no more than elaborate version of the street magician’s “bait and switch.”
I cannot comprehend what tilt of mind refuses the tidal wave of tragic facts about that horrible day in favour of near-lunatic and unmoored speculation. The answer has to be the hatred of the US President George Bush has, amongst the most who despise him, reached incandescent proportions, and has merged with that strain of free-wheeling paranoia that is an undercurrent of much of our modern times. Hating Mr. Bush ferociously, and believing the truth is always “Out There” (never in front of your face), has produced a monstrous fable of conspiracy, cover-up, sinister motivations and an all-controlling apparatus that has abused the world and engaged in two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan), all for some agenda that, in the minds of many conspirators works for the benefit of (who else?) Israel and the Jews.
The 9/11 conspiracy theories - whether those who peddle them are aware of it or not - trail in the spurious and repulsive wake of that arch-conspiracy, the demented Protocols of the Elder Zion. One would have thought the last century had got us past that fantasy-hoax.