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Ron in Regina

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I mean being impeached by the house AND convicted in the senate (which did not happen with Trump or Clinton). In theory with the Dems in control of both house & senate that may happen.
Not unless a significant portion of (13 of them) Republican senators also vote to remove the current Potus. There’s only been four presidential impeachments in the of the USA, & half of those are Trump himself. No president has ever been removed from office through impeachment. Nixon was close and quit before that could happen.
 
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Not unless a significant portion of (13 of them) Republican senators also vote to remove the current Potus. There’s only been four presidential impeachments in the of the USA, & half of those are Trump himself. No president has ever been removed from office through impeachment. Nixon was close and quit before that could happen.
They need 2/3 in the senate to convict? I figured it likely wasn't 50% but wasn't sure the exact number required.
 

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There is more political capital in just doing the pretend impeaching. Let the chattering class make a big fuss for the left wing media. If they did manage to eject Trump, Vance would take over as Prez. It doesn't trigger an election.
 

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I didn’t see this coming. Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., on Monday reintroduced articles of impeachment against Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth over the U.S. war with Iran and other military actions ordered by President Donald Trump.
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House GOP leaders will be forced to bring the impeachment articles up for a floor vote within two legislative days because Massie filed the measure as privileged under House rules. Republicans could also make a motion to kill the resolution, which would require a majority vote.
 
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Hegseth said Monday (today) that he will hold a press conference Tuesday (tomorrow) morning to address efforts to impeach him.

The surprising thing is that a Republican congressman is beating the Democrat congress to this. Massie’s articles of impeachment also include charges related to alleged “extrajudicial killings,” referring to the strikes on alleged drug boats; “kidnapping of a sovereign foreign leader,” referring to the U.S. capturing then-Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro; and “unlawful war in Yemen.”
Trump still has the majority in the Senate and Congress for another seven weeks or so until January 3rd, so what Thomas Massie says above at the 3:30 mark above is interesting.
 

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I didn’t see this coming. Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., on Monday reintroduced articles of impeachment against Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth over the U.S. war with Iran and other military actions ordered by President Donald Trump.
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House GOP leaders will be forced to bring the impeachment articles up for a floor vote within two legislative days because Massie filed the measure as privileged under House rules. Republicans could also make a motion to kill the resolution, which would require a majority vote.
Good for him . What is the over under on Trump or his allies facing articles of impeachment ?
 

Ron in Regina

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Good for him . What is the over under on Trump or his allies facing articles of impeachment ?
Well, if it could be thrown out now, seven weeks before the Democrats have their majority in the house and Senate, probably less than before waiting until January 4th?
House GOP leaders will be forced to bring the impeachment articles up for a floor vote within two legislative days because Massie filed the measure as privileged under House rules. Republicans could also make a motion to kill the resolution, which would require a majority vote.
Then, I wonder if there is something I kin to double Jeopardy apply if Massey puts forth this motion and the Republicans step on it before the major majority Democrat Democrats can even sit January 3?

The Double Jeopardy Clause of the Fifth Amendment protects individuals from being tried twice for the same offense, but it applies strictly to criminal law proceedings, not political ones…so…so much for that. I wonder if Trump’s pet DOJ will agree with you above though?🤔
 
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Hegseth said Monday (today) that he will hold a press conference Tuesday (tomorrow) morning to address efforts to impeach him.

The surprising thing is that a Republican congressman is beating the Democrat congress to this. Massie’s articles of impeachment also include charges related to alleged “extrajudicial killings,” referring to the strikes on alleged drug boats; “kidnapping of a sovereign foreign leader,” referring to the U.S. capturing then-Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro; and “unlawful war in Yemen.”
Trump still has the majority in the Senate and Congress for another seven weeks or so until January 3rd, so what Thomas Massie says above at the 3:30 mark above is interesting.
I notice he is on his way out and won’t face his voters down the line . He will get name recognition and a shot at the Sunday morning talk shows .
 
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I notice he is on his way out and won’t face his voters down the line . He will get name recognition and a shot at the Sunday morning talk shows .
Apparently, he could still be indicted though, and depending on how many Republicans he’s pissed off in the Senate, he might be live streaming from a pair of orange coveralls? The whole clown show is just so crazy with so many twists and turns.
 

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Apparently, he could still be indicted though, and depending on how many Republicans he’s pissed off in the Senate, he might be live streaming from a pair of orange coveralls? The whole clown show is just so crazy with so many twists and turns.
No impeachments will succeed it is all performative art , the only thing democrats have . Can you or any of your Apple News feeds tell us the Democrats legislative agenda ? Didn’t think so . L
 

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Ultimately, while any upcoming Cabinet impeachments are legally doomed regarding the removal of officials, they serve a tangible, non-performative constitutional purpose: giving a newly elected congressional majority a high-leverage mechanism to extract information, legally counter executive overreach, and fundamentally stall the administration's second-term legislative agenda….or not.
No impeachments will succeed it is all performative art , the only thing democrats have . Can you or any of your Apple News feeds tell us the Democrats legislative agenda ? Didn’t think so . L
President Trump, with the clock ticking and congressional investigators closing in, plans to govern even more imperially, hell-bent on stretching executive power, targeting those on his enemies list, pardoning allies, and daring the courts and Congress to slow him down. There’s the legislative agenda of both sides in this clown show. On X over the weekend, Trump discussed targeting and perhaps jailing Democrats who investigate administration officials. Is this bound to succeed?
The U.S. Constitution grants Congress broad authority to conduct oversight, hold hearings, and issue subpoenas to check the executive branch. Courts have historically upheld these powers, making it legally difficult to classify standard legislative oversight as criminal "extortion".
 

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Taking the high road, Trump repeated his backing of Hegseth in a post on his Truth Social platform just after the Pentagon briefing ended. "Pete Hegseth gets an 'A' PLUS, PLUS, PLUS for his defense against a disgruntled, angry, defeated, former Republican Congressman, Thomas Massie, a TOTAL LOSER!" he wrote.
 

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Taking the high road, Trump repeated his backing of Hegseth in a post on his Truth Social platform just after the Pentagon briefing ended. "Pete Hegseth gets an 'A' PLUS, PLUS, PLUS for his defense against a disgruntled, angry, defeated, former Republican Congressman, Thomas Massie, a TOTAL LOSER!" he wrote.
And….as Republicans grapple with the fallout from sweeping midterm losses that some in the party have blamed on the war in Iran and the resulting surge in gas prices. But after President Donald Trump signaled strong support for Hegseth, GOP lawmakers largely stood by the secretary Tuesday. They rejected the impeachment effort led by Kentucky Republican Thomas Massie and backed by Democrats.1794355583316.png
The vote may only delay an impeachment push against Hegseth, with Democrats set to take control of the House and Senate in 53 days on January 3rd. Massie’s resolution included eight counts of impeachment. It largely focused on the war in Iran but also included references to Hegseth's role in carrying out military actions in Yemen and Venezuela, extrajudicial killings, etc…the usual stuff I guess.

Massie, a Kentucky Republican leaving Congress in January after losing his primary to a Trump-backed opponent, says Hegseth has “knowingly executed and implemented unlawful orders” given by someone or another. If the resolution had passed the House, it would ultimately be sent to the Senate to be acquitted or dismissed, where a two-thirds vote would be needed for Hegseth's removal.
 

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And….as Republicans grapple with the fallout from sweeping midterm losses that some in the party have blamed on the war in Iran and the resulting surge in gas prices. But after President Donald Trump signaled strong support for Hegseth, GOP lawmakers largely stood by the secretary Tuesday. They rejected the impeachment effort led by Kentucky Republican Thomas Massie and backed by Democrats.View attachment 36180
The vote may only delay an impeachment push against Hegseth, with Democrats set to take control of the House and Senate in 53 days on January 3rd. Massie’s resolution included eight counts of impeachment. It largely focused on the war in Iran but also included references to Hegseth's role in carrying out military actions in Yemen and Venezuela, extrajudicial killings, etc…the usual stuff I guess.

Massie, a Kentucky Republican leaving Congress in January after losing his primary to a Trump-backed opponent, says Hegseth has “knowingly executed and implemented unlawful orders” given by someone or another. If the resolution had passed the House, it would ultimately be sent to the Senate to be acquitted or dismissed, where a two-thirds vote would be needed for Hegseth's removal.
Aren’t sour grapes great for media , pile on .