Omnibus : 2022 Midterm Elections

Ron in Regina

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It is going to take a lot of free Venesuala oil to pay for this.
And that can ‘start’ in 4-10 years? Makes you wonder how the average Venezuelan citizen feels about this ‘deal’ Trump imposed upon them bypassing their Legislative Congress in Venezuela like he’s been bypassing the American Congress for the last year and a half or so.
 
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And that can ‘start’ in 4-10 years? Makes you wonder how the average Venezuelan citizen feels about this ‘deal’ Trump imposed upon them bypassing their Legislative Congress in Venezuela like he’s been bypassing the American Congress for the last year and a half or so.
The average citizen probably hasn't even heard about it. Putting food on the table today is more important than some deal down the road that they will probably never get accurate information on.
 
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petros

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It is going to take a lot of free Venesuala oil to pay for this.
Its not going to America.

Venezuelan oil is/was going to Israel until they lost their refinery in Haifa to "precision falling debris". Now its being refined in Italy and Cyprus with finished product sent to Israel.

They took out Maduro on behalf of the Zionists.

They used some bullshit about Hezbollah, Iran and support for Palestine in Venezuela to justify.

The Zionist bullshit is so far fetched that only retards believe it.

Did anyone ask the citizens of Venezuela if they wanted their oil to fuel a genocide, the occupation of Lebanon and a war with Iran? Do you think they are jumping for joy and grovelling at the hooves of the Zionists for love?

Venezuela voted in favor of Israeli membership in the United Nations in 1949, and established diplomatic ties.

Though relations between the two countries were traditionally strong, they soured considerably under the presidency of Hugo Chávez, for two reasons: Chávez opposed the 2006 Lebanon War, and Israel opposed Chávez's foreign policy relating to Iran. Chávez also positioned himself on the world stage as opposed to American foreign policy—the US and Israel are partners in defense and international relations, specifically relating to the Middle East. In the wake of the Gaza War (2008–2009), Venezuela broke all diplomatic ties with Israel, condemning its actions. On April 27, 2009, Venezuelan foreign minister (and future president) Nicolás Maduro met with Palestinian National Authority foreign affairs minister Riyad al-Maliki in Caracas, where formal diplomatic relations were established.


In early 2026, reports indicated that Venezuela resumed crude oil shipments to Israel for the first time since 2020, though the Venezuelan government publicly denied the transactions. [1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Venezuela_relations), [2] (https://www.facebook.com/kuwaittime...ears-as-the-latin-a/1344362084404190/)Context of the ShipmentsThe Route: Reports from tracking data and outlets like Bloomberg indicated that a cargo of Venezuelan crude was routed toward Israel's Bazan Group refinery in Haifa, handled via intermediaries such as the energy trading firm Vitol. [1] (https://www.meforum.org/mef-observe...-oil-markets-enhances-israels-energy-security), [2] (https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news-...rgo-leaves-israel-without-unloading)Political Shifts: The resumption of trade followed the U.S. military intervention and removal of former Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, which altered Venezuela's traditional export destinations. [1] (https://gcaptain.com/venezuela-ships-first-crude-cargo-to-israel-as-oil-exports-reopen/), [2] (https://www.facebook.com/kuwaittime...ars-as-the-latin-a/1344362084404190/)Official Stance: While tracking data and advocacy groups such as the BDS Movement scrutinized the shipments, official Venezuelan authorities denied direct involvement or knowledge of oil sales to Israel, and Israeli ministries declined to comment on crude sourcing. [1] (https://bdsmovement.net/news/Act-Now-Stop-Venezuelan-Oil-Shipment-Israel), [2] (https://en.royanews.tv/news/67638/Venezuela-rejects-claims-of-oil-exports-to-'Israel')...
 

Ron in Regina

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Its not going to America.
Ok. So the now destroyed (or badly damaged) refinery at Haifa (that’s located in the Middle East) was set up for refining heavy sour crude oil? From Venezuela or Botswana or Canada or elsewhere? I’m not saying some Venezuelan oil wouldn’t make it its way to Israel, but that it’s not going to America (at all?) seems a little…off.
Anyway, being September 11th, in a thread about the American midterm elections, Trump's highly publicized claim that firefighters "literally lifted him up" and carried him away from a collapsing building near Ground Zero sparked an immediate media backlash and public fact-checking frenzy.
1789166411074.jpegThis controversy took place directly alongside the Republican Midterm Convention in Dallas😳, completely overshadowing the party's official policy rollout. Instead of dominating the news cycle with his headline-grabbing promise of a $5,000 "Trump dividend" for every American adult, the narrative has been consumed by his lengthy social media diatribes defending his 9/11 record.
While Trump's combative posture and "truthful hyperbole" continue to resonate with his hardcore MAGA base, it does little to win over the moderate or independent voters needed to secure competitive congressional seats. Historians and strategists note that while his supporters are generally unfazed by personal exaggerations, independent voters view the politicization of a national tragedy like the 25th anniversary of 9/11 as deeply polarizing and inappropriate.🙄
 
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petros

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Ok. So the now destroyed (or badly damaged) refinery at Haifa (that’s located in the Middle East) was set up for refining heavy sour crude oil? From Venezuela or Botswana or Canada or elsewhere? I’m not saying some Venezuelan oil wouldn’t make it its way to Israel, but that it’s not going to America (at all?) seems a little…off.
You have google, you have AI and hopefully common sense.

Take a big breath, get over your brain chemical rush from "I have to defend Zionism or somebody might call me anti-semitic" brainwashing and peacefully hmmmmm yourself into asking "gees, is it possible Venezuela has nice clean low sulphur sweet crude?"

The references supplied and a few more hmmmmms will get you places.

Places that just might inform you that because of the genocide and ICJ its considered illegal and immoral to export oil to Israel to fuel the ongoing genocide.

Lets not forgot the illegal invasion of Lebanon, illegal expansion of the Syrian occupation and of course the illegal attack on Iran.

The Zionist bullshit is so far fetched that only retards believe it.

You arent, are you? I dont think so...yet.

 

Taxslave2

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Its not going to America.

Venezuelan oil is/was going to Israel until they lost their refinery in Haifa to "precision falling debris". Now its being refined in Italy and Cyprus with finished product sent to Israel.

They took out Maduro on behalf of the Zionists.

They used some bullshit about Hezbollah, Iran and support for Palestine in Venezuela to justify.

The Zionist bullshit is so far fetched that only retards believe it.

Did anyone ask the citizens of Venezuela if they wanted their oil to fuel a genocide, the occupation of Lebanon and a war with Iran? Do you think they are jumping for joy and grovelling at the hooves of the Zionists for love?

Venezuela voted in favor of Israeli membership in the United Nations in 1949, and established diplomatic ties.

Though relations between the two countries were traditionally strong, they soured considerably under the presidency of Hugo Chávez, for two reasons: Chávez opposed the 2006 Lebanon War, and Israel opposed Chávez's foreign policy relating to Iran. Chávez also positioned himself on the world stage as opposed to American foreign policy—the US and Israel are partners in defense and international relations, specifically relating to the Middle East. In the wake of the Gaza War (2008–2009), Venezuela broke all diplomatic ties with Israel, condemning its actions. On April 27, 2009, Venezuelan foreign minister (and future president) Nicolás Maduro met with Palestinian National Authority foreign affairs minister Riyad al-Maliki in Caracas, where formal diplomatic relations were established.


In early 2026, reports indicated that Venezuela resumed crude oil shipments to Israel for the first time since 2020, though the Venezuelan government publicly denied the transactions. [1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Venezuela_relations), [2] (https://www.facebook.com/kuwaittime...ears-as-the-latin-a/1344362084404190/)Context of the ShipmentsThe Route: Reports from tracking data and outlets like Bloomberg indicated that a cargo of Venezuelan crude was routed toward Israel's Bazan Group refinery in Haifa, handled via intermediaries such as the energy trading firm Vitol. [1] (https://www.meforum.org/mef-observe...-oil-markets-enhances-israels-energy-security), [2] (https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news-...rgo-leaves-israel-without-unloading)Political Shifts: The resumption of trade followed the U.S. military intervention and removal of former Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, which altered Venezuela's traditional export destinations. [1] (https://gcaptain.com/venezuela-ships-first-crude-cargo-to-israel-as-oil-exports-reopen/), [2] (https://www.facebook.com/kuwaittime...ars-as-the-latin-a/1344362084404190/)Official Stance: While tracking data and advocacy groups such as the BDS Movement scrutinized the shipments, official Venezuelan authorities denied direct involvement or knowledge of oil sales to Israel, and Israeli ministries declined to comment on crude sourcing. [1] (https://bdsmovement.net/news/Act-Now-Stop-Venezuelan-Oil-Shipment-Israel), [2] (https://en.royanews.tv/news/67638/Venezuela-rejects-claims-of-oil-exports-to-'Israel')...
Everything is the fault of them evil jooos
 

Ron in Regina

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It is going to take a lot of free Venesuala oil to pay for this.
Its not going to America.
Ok. So the now destroyed (or badly damaged) refinery at Haifa (that’s located in the Middle East) was set up for refining heavy sour crude oil? From Venezuela or Botswana or Canada or elsewhere? I’m not saying some Venezuelan oil wouldn’t make it its way to Israel, but that it’s not going to America (at all?) seems a little…off.
Take a big breath, get over your brain chemical rush from "I have to defend Zionism or somebody might call me anti-semitic" brainwashing and peacefully hmmmmm yourself into asking "gees, is it possible Venezuela has nice clean low sulphur sweet crude?"
Leaving the Zionism/Jews thing alone for just a minute or two….my issue with your above statement if you read it again….is your claim that…
Its not going to America.
You’re not saying, “it’s not all going to America” or something along those lines, but…
Its not going to America.
I was questioning your ‘Absolute’ above. You’re jumping in with both feet down some Jew-hole in response to not what’s being questioned.
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So let’s try this again…
Ok. So the now destroyed (or badly damaged) refinery at Haifa (that’s located in the Middle East) was set up for refining heavy sour crude oil? From Venezuela or Botswana or Canada or elsewhere? I’m not saying some Venezuelan oil wouldn’t make it its way to Israel, but that it’s not going to America (at all?) seems a little…off.
 

petros

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Leaving the Zionism/Jews thing alone for just a minute or two….my issue with your above statement if you read it again….is your claim that…

You’re not saying, “it’s not all going to America” or something along those lines, but…

I was questioning your ‘Absolute’ above. You’re jumping in with both feet down some Jew-hole in response to not what’s being questioned.
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So let’s try this again…
Can you try being anti-semantic whenever confronted that the Zionist shit stains on the gonch of humanity are being shit stains on the gonch of humanity and your only defense is semantics?

Lets get all specific on your claim Venezuela has no low sulphur crude or that US controls Venezuelan oil or the first shipment arrived in Haifa the day of the attack on Iran making it obvious they can refine Venezuelan oil like they have in the past or since the Haifa refinery was hit with precision falling debris and finished product would have to come from somewhere or doing trade with a nation committing an ongoing genocide, three illegal occupations and an illegal air and naval attack on Iran is repugnant, quasi illegal and makes the shipper complicit in the murders of 23,000 children who 3 years ago could enjoy fresh baked croissants at a patisserie.

Let's ignore all that even though it's all been placed at you feet (not hooves unless you do have hooves) and in no way "just another coincidence or conspiracy theory" when we all now know the Zionist knew of Oct 7 and let it happen or God fore fucking bid planned it.
 

Taxslave2

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Is the the best you've got? No proof just retarded worn out statements? I'd say "you can do better than that" but it's obvious you can't muster up the wattage to pull off any thought more complex than trying your shoes.
Arguing with Jew haters in like arguing with ecoterrorists. They don't do facts and can only regurgitate their dogma. Not worth my time.
 

Ron in Regina

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Lets get all specific on your claim Venezuela has no low sulphur crude or that US controls Venezuelan oil
I never claimed that. I’ve never stated that. I’ve never said that, but nice try regarding Venezuela not having low Sulphur crude. Canada has low sulphur crude, but it’s not known for it because it’s not the majority that is extracted or exported.

Are you saying the U.S. isn’t in control of Venezuela’s oil at this point?
Ok. So the now destroyed (or badly damaged) refinery at Haifa (that’s located in the Middle East) was set up for refining heavy sour crude oil? From Venezuela or Botswana or Canada or elsewhere? I’m not saying some Venezuelan oil wouldn’t make it its way to Israel, but that it’s not going to America (at all?) seems a little…off.
I asked if it was set up to deal with heavy crude. There’s heavy crude in the Middle East too. My question was with your statement., being an absolute, that…
It is going to take a lot of free Venesuala oil to pay for this.
And that can ‘start’ in 4-10 years? Makes you wonder how the average Venezuelan citizen feels about this ‘deal’ Trump imposed upon them bypassing their Legislative Congress in Venezuela like he’s been bypassing the American Congress for the last year and a half or so.
Its not going to America.
That sounded absolute as a statement to me, and that’s what I was questioning. The last I heard, the U.S. was sucking in about 1/2 a million barrels a day from Venezuela and it was going to refineries along the Gulf Coast. Maybe that’s changed? It was your statement above saying it’s not going to America. Period. That I questioned. The rest is completely your tangent.

Anywho, back on the topic of the US midterms, and the $5000 dividend to be paid to every adult voter in the US “if” Trump wins for the Republicans, majorities in both Congress and Senate, the plan has been greeted with expressions of incredulity across the US political spectrum as well as outraged accusations of seeing to bribe voters. The plan – which would cost more than a trillion dollars – also comes amid huge concern over the US national debt, which topped $40tn for the first time in August.
I don’t ‌know but ‌it’s easy if the ‌Republicans win. $5,000 to all adults in the country and we can easily handle that because we’re taking in ‌so much money,” (from all the adults in America?) Trump told reporters in Ireland where he is on a visit to a golf course.
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I never claimed that. I’ve never stated that. I’ve never said that, but nice try regarding Venezuela not having low Sulphur crude. Canada has low sulphur crude, but it’s not known for it because it’s not the majority that is extracted or exported.

Are you saying the U.S. isn’t in control of Venezuela’s oil at this point?

I asked if it was set up to deal with heavy crude. There’s heavy crude in the Middle East too. My question was with your statement., being an absolute, that…



That sounded absolute as a statement to me, and that’s what I was questioning. The last I heard, the U.S. was sucking in about 1/2 a million barrels a day from Venezuela and it was going to refineries along the Gulf Coast. Maybe that’s changed? It was your statement above saying it’s not going to America. Period. That I questioned. The rest is completely your tangent.

Anywho, back on the topic of the US midterms, and the $5000 dividend to be paid to every adult voter in the US “if” Trump wins for the Republicans, majorities in both Congress and Senate, the plan has been greeted with expressions of incredulity across the US political spectrum as well as outraged accusations of seeing to bribe voters. The plan – which would cost more than a trillion dollars – also comes amid huge concern over the US national debt, which topped $40tn for the first time in August.
I don’t ‌know but ‌it’s easy if the ‌Republicans win. $5,000 to all adults in the country and we can easily handle that because we’re taking in ‌so much money,” (from all the adults in America?) Trump told reporters in Ireland where he is on a visit to a golf course.
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At least they are giving real money , we get $250.00 for low income gst relief , or a hundred bucks from ICBC .
 

petros

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I never claimed that. I’ve never stated that. I’ve never said that, but nice try regarding Venezuela not having low Sulphur crude. Canada has low sulphur crude, but it’s not known for it because it’s not the majority that is extracted or exported.
By claiming only specific refineries can refine Venezuelan oil isn't saying they have no sweet crude?
Are you saying the U.S. isn’t in control of Venezuela’s oil at this point?
They are, that's why the Venezuelan Govt can proudly deny they didn't ship any oil to fuel a genocide, 3 occupations and illegal air and naval attack on Iran to avoid the international legal and moral backlash of trading with the Zionist terror regime.

I asked if it was set up to deal with heavy crude. There’s heavy crude in the Middle East too. My question was with your statement., being an absolute, that…
Why ask when Venezuelan oil was shipped to Israel to be refined?
That sounded absolute as a statement to me, and that’s what I was questioning. The last I heard, the U.S. was sucking in about 1/2 a million barrels a day from Venezuela and it was going to refineries along the Gulf Coast. Maybe that’s changed? It was your statement above saying it’s not going to America. Period. That I questioned. The rest is completely your tangent.
Physically going to US or profits going to US to fund shit or both?

Well, I gave all the reference material and inspiration to encourage you to answer your questions. 480,000bpd does indeed go to be refined on the Gulf. 1 refinery with the exclusive contract to make JP-8 that supplies every drop of the IDFs US&A's needs.
Anywho, back on the topic of the US midterms, and the $5000 dividend to be paid to every adult voter in the US “if” Trump wins for the Republicans, majorities in both Congress and Senate, the plan has been greeted with expressions of incredulity across the US political spectrum as well as outraged accusations of seeing to bribe voters. The plan – which would cost more than a trillion dollars – also comes amid huge concern over the US national debt, which topped $40tn for the first time in August.
I don’t ‌know but ‌it’s easy if the ‌Republicans win. $5,000 to all adults in the country and we can easily handle that because we’re taking in ‌so much money,” (from all the adults in America?) Trump told reporters in Ireland where he is on a visit to a golf course.
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Does that come at the same time as the Tariff Dividends, Warrior Dividend and the Healthcare Rebate?

That'll be one helluva party week.
 
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petros

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Arguing with Jew haters in like arguing with ecoterrorists. They don't do facts and can only regurgitate their dogma. Not worth my time.
Where are your facts? What's stopping you from embarrassing me instead taking the weak mind route thinking you're somehow one upping me by trying to insult me, the one who brought proof to the table?

If once, just once you did bring facts to the table, I'd hop in the truck and catch the next ferry, risk speeding tickets to show up at your door with bouquet of flowers and give you the biggest hug of your life while telling how proud I am of you for breaking through the brainwashing and tasting freedom of mind for the first time.

The Zionist bullshit is so far fetched that only retards believe it.
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