I don't blame Israel at all. Why would anyone put down their arms when others are shooting at them? That's crazy!! If Hezbullah stops shooting, then of course Israel needs to do likewise. But as it stands, Israel is entitled to defend themselves. Petros, of course, doesn't believe that Israel should defend themselves at all.Iran’s top diplomat said Tuesday that the tentative deal to end the war with the United States would require Israel to withdraw from Lebanon — a condition Israel has already rejected and that could sink the agreement, leading to the resumption of all-out war.
Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said Israel’s continued occupation of southern Lebanon would violate the deal. “Without the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the territories they occupied during this war, the war has not fully come to an end,” Araghchi said.
A U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss outlines of the agreement, has said the deal does not call for an Israeli withdrawal. And Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Monday that Israel would remain in Lebanon “as long as necessary.” Glad they’ve got that sorted out.
Iran says the initial deal to end the war with the US requires Israel to withdraw from Lebanon — The Canadian Press
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Iran’s top diplomat said Tuesday that theapple.news
Trump threatens to resume bombing campaign if Iran does not "behave" — Reuters
U.S President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that an interim accord with Iran was not final, and that he could resume a bombing campaign if he did not like it or if Tehran did not "behave".(YouTube & CNN obtains US-Iran draft agreement: What its 14 points reveal)
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Today is Thursday, and tomorrow is literally the day the agreement to sign an agreement officially to negotiate towards an agreement to end the war is to be signed in Switzerland. Trump already signed it yesterday at the Palace of Versailles while he and French President Macron exchanged interior decorating tips.
So what did Trump sign off on and agree to?
Defending the deal, Trump said no US president had ever been as tough on Iran as him, and “there is nothing as smart as the market – and the market loves it” and the Hezbollah chief, Naim Qassem, hails it as a “great victory” whatever “it” is.
“Anyone who wants to can invest. What do you expect me to say: no one is allowed to invest? But we’re not investing; we’re not putting up even 10 cents,” Trump said about Iran and not Cuba.
In an interview aired on Iranian state television, Irans chief negotiator said the “strait of Hormuz will not return to prewar conditions”, adding: “Iran has the right to sovereignty over the strait of Hormuz and of course we will receive a fee for services. The agreement is a record of US failure. People will see it and judge.”
Read the Full Text of the 14-Point Agreement Between the U.S. and Iran
The U.S. released the full text of the agreement it is set to sign with Iran on Friday to begin a 60-day cease-fire and open the Strait of Hormuz.
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Trump Signs Iran Deal, Says He Wants to Avoid ‘Economic Catastrophe’ — The Wall Street Journal
President has threatened to resume bombing if Tehran doesn’t honor the pact
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President Trump will not be present in Switzerland for the formal signing of the Iran Memorandum of Understanding (MOU). He already signed a paper copy of the 14-point agreement on Wednesday, June 17, at the Palace of Versailles in France.
Because the agreement has already been finalized digitally and on paper, a formal signing ceremony in Switzerland is no longer taking place. Instead, the U.S. delegation—led by Vice President JD Vance—and Iranian representatives are scheduled to meet in central Switzerland for technical talks on implementing the new 60-day ceasefire.
The supreme commander watches a lot of junk US Utube videos and other far left US inf. According to her sources, Trump agreed to pay Iran $300 million to end the war. Which she swears is true because some lefty in the US said so. I have not found any mention anywhere else. Has anyone seen some concrete about this? The best I can find is that he agreed to release Iranian funds that have been seized .
There’s not a lot a whole lot of concrete anything because they’re not saying the same thing on both sides. Then there’s some weasel-wiggling like the different versions coming out about opening the Strait of Hormuz for example.
(Trump says that it’s opening without tolls, & Iran says it’s opening without tools for the first 60 days & then there will be tolls. Both are stating something technically correct, but both statements are not the same as each other)
There’s some stinky phrasing about frozen assets…because they’re divided into several categories, & maybe they’re not releasing “frozen” funds to Iran, but they are releasing “held” funds or some such horseshit…or America isn’t releasing funds to Iran (not even a dime, etc…) but it’ll release it to Qatar who’ll release it to Iran…that kind of two-faced doublespeak.
Iran wasn’t gonna sign anything until it got $12 billion, and things got signed early before Friday and the Switzerland official signing nonsense got cancelled…so did Iran get paid??? I have no idea what they signed but they signed so…? Who knows?
Trump was going to be the one to sign off on the deal when he thought it was gonna be a good deal for America in Geneva, then he was going to send JD Vance over to sign off on it when he thought it was gonna be a shit deal for America, then Trump signed it on the QT in France and cancel the whole official signing of the agreement about an agreement towards a possible future…agreement.
There’s a couple of different versions of this 14 point plan floating around on the different news sites, and they’re similar to each other, but they’re not the same as each other…so which one got signed (?) & does it really matter when it’s just a MOU?
The whole thing was just smoke & mirrors to drag the stalemate out for another 60 days…for Iran to claim victory on their end and get paid…& for Trump to claim victory on his end to keep Congress from doing their job while trying to pretend he has a win before the midterms (that he doesn’t care about, etc…). We can speculate but what was actually signed isn’t public, so it’s just speculation at this point.
What is obvious is that Trump is bored with the Iran situation as it didn’t wind down in five or six weeks max, so he’s throwing shit at the fan and claiming a win, so he can go onto the next bag blowing in the wind that catches his attention…but will that be crushing Cuba economically and militarily so he can look like a He-Man for his voter base before November (?) or is it going to be trying to crush Canada & Mexico economically or at least give the appearance that he is…over NAFTA or CUSMA or USMCACUSMANAFTA or what have you.
In the meantime, he’s thrown another Ally under the bus with Israel, and made the other quasi-allies in the Middle East (Qater, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc…) to second guess the value of allowing US bases in their backyards, all while alienating NATO and the majority of the western hemisphere simultaneously.
The whole Iran thing initially (way back in early January up until partway through March) was about regime change in Iran until it was obvious that that wasn’t gonna happen…& that’s when it’s switched away from regime change to nuclear enriched material (but the switch happened so fast that he didn’t have a cue card so he called it nuclear dust, and it’s stuck at least in Trump’s mind) for justification.
I honestly thought a couple of days back that he was gonna throw JD Vance under the bus with Israel until Trump quits a couple months after the midterms…& leaves Vance holding the bag and picking up the pieces until America manages to have another federal election a year and a half later, etc…but…time will tell.
You 2 still haven't accepted the loss? Trump just saved Israel and the $USD from total destruction.
At this point Trump is probably thinking Netanyahu can kick rocks in flip-flops and the USD is a God without hooves is more worthy of worship
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After the last couple of months, do you think Iran is gonna trade their oil for USD to China for example? Will Saudi Arabia (who’s signed a defence pact with Pakistan) continue to trade their oil exclusively in USD now in exchange for US Bases/Protection like they’ve had arranged for the last 1/2 century or so?
How did Trump save the USD? He just blew $100,000,000,000.00USD in under four months at what best could be considered to draw if you squint hard enough?
Iran announces plans to bring in maritime fees for strait of Hormuz — Guardian US
Tehran says fees to cover cost of managing waterway will come into effect at end of 60-day negotiation period
The petrodollar still exists. Thats the only credit US gets. Iran hasnt been on the Petrodollar for ages. Saudis partially got out last year.After the last couple of months, do you think Iran is gonna trade their oil for USD to China for example? Will Saudi Arabia (who’s signed a defence pact with Pakistan) continue to trade their oil exclusively in USD now in exchange for US Bases/Protection like they’ve had arranged for the last 1/2 century or so?
How did Trump save the USD? He just blew $100,000,000,000.00USD in under four months at what best could be considered to draw if you squint hard enough?
Iran announces plans to bring in maritime fees for strait of Hormuz — Guardian US
Tehran says fees to cover cost of managing waterway will come into effect at end of 60-day negotiation period
Iran proved it could take on America and Israel combined with the capability to defend itself and project power which bumped them up a couple rungs up the ladder into Super Power status.
Israel is now pariah hated by the world and in economic shambles it may never recover from..
Open your eyes instead of squinting, Iran won. PERIOD
That’s the outcome that at this point seems apparent but let’s see what the next sixty days bring, or the next 138 days, or the next couple of years, etc…for when Iran and America settle their major differences, or not.
Trump will seek praise and FIFA awards for walking away from the war he started, claiming victory bigley, and it is what it is. Yes the petrodollar still exists, but…
Still wondering how you qualify this statement.
Understand the pessimism of a loss. It'll pass and don't forget you were warned of the loss coming before the first missiles flew. Last June obviously showed that Iran was a challenge greater than the hasbara that floated your boat.
Do they exist even with the bullshit myth of the "right to exist"? Be glad Iran restrained itself from using its full potential.
Ugh…
Yes…
OK.
This is my question. Guess I wasn’t clear. How did Trump save the USD?
Anyway, the agreement, a memorandum of understanding that Trump signed Wednesday, places no limits on Tehran’s stockpile of the weapons that it used to menace international shipping, nor on the powerful regional network of armed militias that helped it attack Arab Gulf nations.
The deal to end the conflict between the U.S. and Iran doesn’t address key reasons President Trump gave for going to war: the Islamic Republic’s missiles, drones and support for militias. That triple threat remains one of the biggest concerns for Tehran’s Gulf neighbors.
“The MOU doesn’t address any of Iran’s core power-projection capabilities,” said Hasan Alhasan, a former foreign-policy analyst on the staff of the crown prince of Bahrain and now a senior fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.
The document does insist on the permanent termination of military operations in Lebanon—where Israel is fighting the Iran-backed militant group Hezbollah. The first clause mentions Lebanon three times and commits the U.S. to ensuring its territorial integrity and sovereignty.
On Thursday, Iran’s Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei said he only agreed to the country’s president signing the deal after receiving assurances from him and others that the interests of its Proxy militias, known by the regime as the Axis of Resistance, would be protected. “They have also explicitly stated that if the American side seeks excessive demands, they will not submit to them,” Khamenei said in a statement on X, etc…
Trump on Wednesday defended the agreement, saying he wanted to avoid an economic catastrophe that could have resulted if the war the U.S. initiated had continued. Is this how Trump saved the U.S. Dollar?
Trump’s Deal Sidesteps Key Reasons He Went to War With Iran — The Wall Street Journal
Pact makes no demands on Tehran over its militias or huge arsenal of missiles
Centred around 14 points, the deal includes reopening the Strait of Hormuz, a requirement that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon, a $300bn (£224bn) plan for Iran's "reconstruction", and the US terminating "all types of sanctions" on Iran.
It also binds both sides to achieving a final deal in a "maximum" of 60 days, which could be extended with mutual consent. President Trump has said he expected a ceasefire to take effect "on all fronts", including between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon, something which is also set out in the text of the agreement.
This latest Middle East chapter has caused severe economic disruption in the U.S., most notably soaring global oil prices and record-high gasoline costs for American motorists. Facing plunging approval ratings and seeking to protect the Republican Party from devastating losses in the upcoming midterm elections (that Trump doesn’t care about), Trump is using Israel as a political lightning rod to deflect public anger away from his own administration's decision-making.
Lebanon was drawn into the war between Israel, the US and Iran shortly after it began, with Hezbollah launching rockets into Israel in retaliation for a strike that killed Iran's supreme leader. Israel responded by launching a bombing campaign across Lebanon and invading a significant part of the country's south, with the aim of driving back Hezbollah fighters from its northern border.
Both Israel and Hezbollah have carried out strikes against each other since the deal was announced.
Israel and Hezbollah agreed to a ceasefire in Lebanon on Friday, a U.S. official said, after an escalation in fighting there jeopardised the chances of an interim agreement on ending the war in Iran turning into a lasting Middle East peace deal.
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It also binds both sides to achieving a final deal in a "maximum" of 60 days, which could be extended with mutual consent. President Trump has said he expected a ceasefire to take effect "on all fronts", including between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon, something which is also set out in the text of the agreement.
This latest Middle East chapter has caused severe economic disruption in the U.S., most notably soaring global oil prices and record-high gasoline costs for American motorists. Facing plunging approval ratings and seeking to protect the Republican Party from devastating losses in the upcoming midterm elections (that Trump doesn’t care about), Trump is using Israel as a political lightning rod to deflect public anger away from his own administration's decision-making.
Lebanon was drawn into the war between Israel, the US and Iran shortly after it began, with Hezbollah launching rockets into Israel in retaliation for a strike that killed Iran's supreme leader. Israel responded by launching a bombing campaign across Lebanon and invading a significant part of the country's south, with the aim of driving back Hezbollah fighters from its northern border.
Both Israel and Hezbollah have carried out strikes against each other since the deal was announced.
Israel and Hezbollah agreed to a ceasefire in Lebanon on Friday, a U.S. official said, after an escalation in fighting there jeopardised the chances of an interim agreement on ending the war in Iran turning into a lasting Middle East peace deal.
Israeli, Hezbollah agree to ceasefire starting on Friday - U.S. official — Reuters
Israel and Iran-backed Hezbollah have agreed to a ceasefire beginning at 4 p.m. local time on Friday (1300 GMT), a senior U.S. official told Reuters, after hostilities between them had escalated sharply overnight in Lebanon.
Its simple.
The higher gold goes the more the USD loses value.
Gold is dropping which means USD is gaining value.
Gulf Dictator Proxies...
Those were Israels reasons given to Trump who Israel's Proxy.
Does Iran have the "Right to arm and defend itself"? It does and it did.
Does Lebanon have the "Right to exist"?Its not just Iran backing Hezbollah any longer.
Partially
The Right to Arm and Defend itself and defend Allies.
Trump’s Deal Sidesteps Key Reasons He Went to War With Iran — The Wall Street Journal
Pact makes no demands on Tehran over its militias or huge arsenal of missiles
To the winners go the spoils. Iran's concession to Trump is USD and precious Israel are no longer under attack by Iran.
Then there is this concession.
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A drop in gold doesn’t automatically mean the value of the USD goes up.
Gold is dropping, which means gold is worth less than it was. President Trump insisted there are “no limits” to his power when asked in a new interview about his takeaways from the Iran war.
The president was pressed by Axios’s Marc Caputo during an interview about whether he learned there are bounds to his power during the Middle East conflict.
“I haven’t learned that lesson yet,” he replied. “I know there are, but there are no limits. We defeated them totally militarily.”
Caputo also asked Trump about his original promise that the war would end with an “unconditional surrender” from Tehran, pointing to the memorandum of understanding he signed on Wednesday.
“Well, it really probably is unconditional surrender,” Trump told the outlet.
Trump says there are 'no limits' to his power — The Hill
President Trump insisted there are “no limits” to his power when asked in a new interview about his takeaways from the Iran war.
I don’t really care if Trump won or lost. I am interested in finding out if the left wing in the US is lying through their teeth as usual. So far the only place I HAVE FOUND ANY MENTION OF trump giving Iran $300 billion is from left wing nuts that are about as reliable as CBC.
True but it is the main marker above all else
Don't confuse price of gold pegged to USD against value of gold. The value of gold stays very very consistent.
No they can't. Not by conventional means. It would have been done already.
Probably?Caputo also asked Trump about his original promise that the war would end with an “unconditional surrender” from Tehran, pointing to the memorandum of understanding he signed on Wednesday.
“Well, it really probably is unconditional surrender,” Trump told the outlet.
Trump says there are 'no limits' to his power — The Hill
President Trump insisted there are “no limits” to his power when asked in a new interview about his takeaways from the Iran war.
Trump noted that the current leaders representing Iran in the recent diplomatic talks are "strong" and "smart". He additionally remarked that he found the diplomatic faction to be "much more reasonable" and "smarter" than expected.
That is him showing weakness and capitulation.
That's your problem right there. Your belief there is an "us Vs them" when in reality it doesn't exist.
Perfect example here:
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I asked Google AI. The $300 billion is not U.S. taxpayer money. According to the preliminary memorandum of understanding (MoU) to end the U.S.-Iran war, the funds are intended to be a private and international reconstruction and investment vehicle?
Here is where the money is “supposed” to come from and how the mechanism works:
- The Gulf Coast Coalition: The Trump administration points to the Gulf states—such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates—that Iran has been firing missiles and drones at—as the primary financial backers of the fund.
- Private and International Investors: Reports from financial outlets like Reuters indicate the $300 billion is structured as a private investment fund designed to trigger commercial and infrastructure projects in Iran rather than a direct cash payout.
- The U.S. Role: While the Trump administration stated the United States will not contribute any direct capital, Washington is committing to grant the necessary sanctions waivers, banking licenses, and permissions required to allow this international money to flow into Iran.
- Strict Conditions: Vice President JD Vance emphasized that Iran will only gain access to these investments if they fully comply with the peace deal, including dismantling their nuclear program and submitting to inspections, so we’ll see here how that pans out or not.
The UAE and Saudi Arabia are pursuing diplomacy and financial arrangements with Iran not out of trust, but as a pragmatic strategy to protect their vulnerable economies, stop devastating drone strikes, and prevent a broader regional collapse.
Gulf states, particularly the UAE, are located just across the water from Iran, making them highly vulnerable to missile and drone strikes. Financial deals and the unlocking of frozen Iranian funds are essentially tactical agreements to secure a cessation of hostilities and protect their critical infrastructure, but I bet it’s going to be sold in a different light.
Still think Iran didn't win?I asked Google AI. The $300 billion is not U.S. taxpayer money. According to the preliminary memorandum of understanding (MoU) to end the U.S.-Iran war, the funds are intended to be a private and international reconstruction and investment vehicle?
Here is where the money is “supposed” to come from and how the mechanism works:
Because the text of the initial MoU is a broad framework rather than a final binding agreement, exact details on the specific investors and the implementation mechanism (or pretty much anything else) are slated to be worked out during ongoing 60-day negotiations…which I expect to turn into a whole string of extended 60-day negotiations for the next several years.
- The Gulf Coast Coalition: The Trump administration points to the Gulf states—such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates—that Iran has been firing missiles and drones at—as the primary financial backers of the fund.
- Private and International Investors: Reports from financial outlets like Reuters indicate the $300 billion is structured as a private investment fund designed to trigger commercial and infrastructure projects in Iran rather than a direct cash payout.
- The U.S. Role: While the Trump administration stated the United States will not contribute any direct capital, Washington is committing to grant the necessary sanctions waivers, banking licenses, and permissions required to allow this international money to flow into Iran.
- Strict Conditions: Vice President JD Vance emphasized that Iran will only gain access to these investments if they fully comply with the peace deal, including dismantling their nuclear program and submitting to inspections, so we’ll see here how that pans out or not.
The UAE and Saudi Arabia are pursuing diplomacy and financial arrangements with Iran not out of trust, but as a pragmatic strategy to protect their vulnerable economies, stop devastating drone strikes, and prevent a broader regional collapse.
Gulf states, particularly the UAE, are located just across the water from Iran, making them highly vulnerable to missile and drone strikes. Financial deals and the unlocking of frozen Iranian funds are essentially tactical agreements to secure a cessation of hostilities and protect their critical infrastructure, but I bet it’s going to be sold in a different light.