Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period

Ron in Regina

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President Donald Trump, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Air Force Gen. Dan Caine hold a briefing to update the public on Operation Epic Fury in Iran.

I’m just listening to the part where Trump is now talking about taking over the Strait of Hormuz & America collecting tolls.

Now griefing on not being awarded Nobel Prize…while talking about bombing every bridge and power plant in Iran.

Now Trump is being totally revisionist about the demands and orders to NATO to join his offensive war…& now they are all filing out of the room.
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Ron in Regina

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Iran said on Monday it wanted a lasting end to the war with the U.S. and Israel, and pushed back against pressure to reopen the Strait of Hormuz while U.S. President Donald Trump warned the country could be "taken out" if it did not meet his Tuesday night deadline to reach a deal.

Responding to a U.S. proposal through mediator Pakistan, Tehran rejected a ceasefire ‌and said a permanent end to the war was necessary, the official IRNA news agency reported.

The Iranian response consisted of 10 clauses, including an end to conflicts in the region, a protocol for safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz, lifting of sanctions and reconstruction, the agency added.

Trump, who has threatened to rain "hell" on Tehran if it did not make a deal by 8 p.m. EDT Tuesday (midnight GMT) to open the Strait of Hormuz, a vital route for global energy supplies, rejected the Iranian response and said his deadline was final, etc…

At a news conference, Trump said Iran could be "taken out" in one night "and that night might be tomorrow night," referring to Tuesday. He vowed to destroy Iranian power plants and bridges, brushing off concerns that such actions would be a war crime or alienate Iran's 93 million people.

Experts have said strikes on civilian infrastructure such as power plants and bridges would constitute war crimes. Trump said Iranians are "willing to suffer that in order to have freedom," saying that the U.S. has intercepted messages asking for bombings. "They're saying, 'Please come back,'" he said. (???)

Without an agreement with Tehran, Trump said, "Every bridge in Iran will be decimated" by midnight EDT (0400 GMT) on Wednesday and "every power plant in Iran will be out ⁠of business, burning, exploding, and never to be used again."
 

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Iran said on Monday it wanted a lasting end to the war with the U.S. and Israel, and pushed back against pressure to reopen the Strait of Hormuz while U.S. President Donald Trump warned the country could be "taken out" if it did not meet his Tuesday night deadline to reach a deal.

Responding to a U.S. proposal through mediator Pakistan, Tehran rejected a ceasefire ‌and said a permanent end to the war was necessary, the official IRNA news agency reported.

The Iranian response consisted of 10 clauses, including an end to conflicts in the region, a protocol for safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz, lifting of sanctions and reconstruction, the agency added.

Trump, who has threatened to rain "hell" on Tehran if it did not make a deal by 8 p.m. EDT Tuesday (midnight GMT) to open the Strait of Hormuz, a vital route for global energy supplies, rejected the Iranian response and said his deadline was final, etc…

At a news conference, Trump said Iran could be "taken out" in one night "and that night might be tomorrow night," referring to Tuesday. He vowed to destroy Iranian power plants and bridges, brushing off concerns that such actions would be a war crime or alienate Iran's 93 million people.

Experts have said strikes on civilian infrastructure such as power plants and bridges would constitute war crimes. Trump said Iranians are "willing to suffer that in order to have freedom," saying that the U.S. has intercepted messages asking for bombings. "They're saying, 'Please come back,'" he said. (???)

Without an agreement with Tehran, Trump said, "Every bridge in Iran will be decimated" by midnight EDT (0400 GMT) on Wednesday and "every power plant in Iran will be out ⁠of business, burning, exploding, and never to be used again."
As of April 6, 2026, Iran is leveraging control of the Strait of Hormuz to pressure the U.S. and EU during ongoing conflict, restricting traffic by roughly 95% while offering safe passage to select non-hostile vessels. Iran is negotiating with intermediaries for a 45-day ceasefire, demanding a permanent end to hostilities and rejecting U.S. ultimatums.
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EU Strategy: Iran is offering EU-flagged vessels guaranteed passage in a "divide and conquer" tactic to break the U.S. "maximum pressure" strategy.
Strait Status: Iran stated the Strait will not return to normal unless the war is permanently stopped, promising to only allow "non-hostile" vessels through under strict coordination.
Trump's Deadline: President Trump threatened to take out Iran's infrastructure if the Strait was not opened by April 6, 2026, following several previous deadline extensions.
Regional Impact: The disruption has caused significant global energy market instability, with daily traffic down to a fraction of pre-war levels, though some French and Japanese vessels have passed.
Ceasefire Proposals: A new 45-day ceasefire proposal was circulated by regional mediators while Iran holds out for a permanent deal rather than a temporary pause.

This is a rapidly evolving situation as of early April 2026.
 

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EU Strategy: Iran is offering EU-flagged vessels guaranteed passage in a "divide and conquer" tactic to break the U.S. "maximum pressure" strategy.
Well that would mean EU can pay in Euros or Yuan royally fucking the Petro Dollar.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Well that would mean EU can pay in Euros or Yuan royally fucking the Petro Dollar.
That’s assuming Iran/Oman continue to control that strait…& it doesn’t look like that’s gonna change anytime soon…unless:
I’m just listening to the part where Trump is now talking about taking over the Strait of Hormuz & America collecting tolls.
Could hold the world hostage by America instead of Iran/Oman to pay for those Patriot Missiles lobbed into Iran…Donroe-style…& not in Euros or Yuan, forcibly preserving the greenback as the petro-dollar.
Iran is negotiating with intermediaries for a 45-day ceasefire, demanding a permanent end to hostilities and rejecting U.S. ultimatums.
Trump, who has threatened to rain "hell" on Tehran if it did not make a deal by 8 p.m. EDT Tuesday (midnight GMT) to open the Strait of Hormuz, a vital route for global energy supplies, rejected the Iranian response and said his deadline was final, etc…
A new 45-day ceasefire proposal was circulated by regional mediators while Iran holds out for a permanent deal rather than a temporary pause.
Wouldn’t be the first time Trump has extended the extension of an extension of a firm non-negotiable deadline set by himself….& it also wouldn’t be the first time Trump has attacked (Iran specifically in this instance) militarily during negotiations.
Without an agreement with Tehran, Trump said, "Every bridge in Iran will be decimated" by midnight EDT (0400 GMT) on Wednesday and "every power plant in Iran will be out ⁠of business, burning, exploding, and never to be used again."
So the above means a definite maybe, or maybe not.
Experts have said strikes on civilian infrastructure such as power plants and bridges would constitute war crimes. Trump said Iranians are "willing to suffer that in order to have freedom," saying that the U.S. has intercepted messages asking for bombings. "They're saying, 'Please come back,'" he said. (???)
Yeah, well, yeah, ok. Pretty sure the Iranian citizenry aren’t begging Trump to bomb the oil infrastructure and bridges and desalination plants and so on and so forth, back to the Stone Age, etc…but I could be wrong.
Now griefing on not being awarded Nobel Prize…while talking about bombing every bridge and power plant in Iran.
(YouTube & Trump Says US Should Be Charging Tolls On The Strait Of Hormuz Instead Of Letting Iran "Have Them")
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Now Trump is being totally revisionist about the demands and orders to NATO to join his offensive war…& now they are all filing out of the room.
Maybe now Trump will get his own Nobel Peace Prize?
(YouTube & Trump claims Iranians 'want to hear bombs' because they want to be free)
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Iran has asserted its control over the critical waterway by issuing a new toll system for tankers looking to pass through. The country (Iran) approved a plan last month to impose tolls on ships passing through the strait and enforce “Iran’s sovereign role.” Trump said he believed the US should issue tolls because of its military success in the current conflict.
 

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That’s assuming Iran/Oman continue to control that strait…& it doesn’t look like that’s gonna change anytime soon…unless:

Could hold the world hostage by America instead of Iran/Oman to pay for those Patriot Missiles lobbed into Iran…Donroe-style…& not in Euros or Yuan, forcibly preserving the greenback as the petro-dollar.



Wouldn’t be the first time Trump has extended the extension of an extension of a firm non-negotiable deadline set by himself….& it also wouldn’t be the first time Trump has attacked (Iran specifically in this instance) militarily during negotiations.

So the above means a definite maybe, or maybe not.

Yeah, well, yeah, ok. Pretty sure the Iranian citizenry aren’t begging Trump to bomb the oil infrastructure and bridges and desalination plants and so on and so forth, back to the Stone Age, etc…but I could be wrong.

(YouTube & Trump Says US Should Be Charging Tolls On The Strait Of Hormuz Instead Of Letting Iran "Have Them")
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Maybe now Trump will get his own Nobel Peace Prize?
(YouTube & Trump claims Iranians 'want to hear bombs' because they want to be free)
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Iran has asserted its control over the critical waterway by issuing a new toll system for tankers looking to pass through. The country (Iran) approved a plan last month to impose tolls on ships passing through the strait and enforce “Iran’s sovereign role.” Trump said he believed the US should issue tolls because of its military success in the current conflict.
Test have shown the the soft white underbelly of America is showing..
 

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Test have shown the the soft white underbelly of America is showing..
It’s all pretty crazy & we (the globe) will have to wait another 36 hours or so to see which side the flip-flop lands on I guess. 50/50 odds depending on how spicy tomorrow’s supper at the White House is.
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Iran, not the United States, that has imposed a "toll system" for ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz. Iran is charging vessels fees, often in yuan or crypto, with reports of up to $2 million per tanker for passage, amid rising tensions and maritime disruptions.

Key details:
  • Iranian Tolls: Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is reportedly charging a fee of around $1 per barrel of oil for passage.
  • Impact on Shipping: Traffic has severely dropped, with very few ships receiving clearance from Iranian authorities, as noted in a YouTube video on Iran's toll plan.
  • US Position: While the US does not charge these tolls, President Trump has mentioned potentially charging tolls themselves while simultaneously demanding Iran stop disrupting the strait.
(YouTube & “We Won, US Should Charge Toll”: Donald Trump’s Big Strait Of Hormuz Remark Sparks Debate | N18S)
 

petros

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It’s all pretty crazy & we (the globe) will have to wait another 36 hours or so to see which side the flip-flop lands on I guess. 50/50 odds depending on how spicy tomorrow’s supper at the White House is.
View attachment 33982
Iran, not the United States, that has imposed a "toll system" for ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz. Iran is charging vessels fees, often in yuan or crypto, with reports of up to $2 million per tanker for passage, amid rising tensions and maritime disruptions.

Key details:
  • Iranian Tolls: Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) is reportedly charging a fee of around $1 per barrel of oil for passage.
  • Impact on Shipping: Traffic has severely dropped, with very few ships receiving clearance from Iranian authorities, as noted in a YouTube video on Iran's toll plan.
  • US Position: While the US does not charge these tolls, President Trump has mentioned potentially charging tolls themselves while simultaneously demanding Iran stop disrupting the strait.
(YouTube & “We Won, US Should Charge Toll”: Donald Trump’s Big Strait Of Hormuz Remark Sparks Debate | N18S)
A ground war ain't going happen.
 

Ron in Regina

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A ground war ain't going happen.
Best hope he sup’s on Micky-D’s & not Taco Bell tomorrow night then. Ordinary Iranians have been responding to US President Donald Trump's threat to destroy Iran's power plants and bridges unless it opens the Strait of Hormuz.
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Trump said in an expletive-laden post on social media on Sunday that "Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!!."
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Iranian officials have mocked his 20:00 ET (01:00 BST Wednesday) deadline, with a presidential aide saying his "insults and nonsense" were out of "sheer desperation and anger".
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The BBC has managed to talk to several Iranians - all opposed the current establishment - even though it is very difficult to contact people inside Iran due to an internet blackout imposed by the authorities more than five weeks ago. Their names have been changed for their own safety.

While Iranian state TV has been showing videos of well-stocked grocery shops, the BBC has heard that some people are stockpiling and are worried that the water supply might be disrupted as well.
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"My mum is filling every bottle she can find in the house with water," said Mina, also in her 20s and from Tehran.

"I've no idea what we're going to do now. I think more and more in Iran have realised that Trump doesn't care about them at all. I hate him from the bottom of my heart, and hate those who support him too."
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Kasra, who is in his 20s and lives in Tehran said: "It feels like we're sinking deeper into a swamp. What can we do as ordinary people? We can't do anything. We can't stop him [Trump]. I keep thinking about a scenario where, in a month, I'm sitting with my family with no water, no electricity, nothing. And someone blows out the candle and we go to sleep.
Trump said Iranians are "willing to suffer that in order to have freedom," saying that the U.S. has intercepted messages asking for bombings. "They're saying, 'Please come back,'" he said. (???)
Trump said he “can’t talk about the ceasefire”, and when asked whether the war is winding down or ramping up, he said: “I can’t tell you.”

"I've thanked Israel and the US for almost all of what they've hit so far," said Arman, in his 20s and from Karaj, west of Tehran. Iranian media said 13 people were killed and almost 100 injured when a bridge under construction in Karaj was bombed on Thursday.

"They must have had good reasons for them [sites which have been hit]. But I swear, hitting a power station just paralyses the country. It just plays into the Islamic Republic's hands. I live about a kilometre away from the biggest power station in Karaj, and if they hit it, it'll be nothing but misery for me."
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Radin, also in his 20s and living in Tehran, said: "If attacking targets in the country brings down the Islamic Republic, I'm fine with that. Because if the Islamic Republic survives this war, it will stay forever." Many of those that the BBC talked to are worried about the economic impact the war.
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Bahman, who is in his 20s and lives in Tehran, said: "I think Trump is scared of what Iran is going to do. I'm sure that Iran will hit everywhere in the region in retaliation."

"When it comes to me, I don't have a routine anymore, and I can't even go to work with the situation because I'm a building superintendent engineer and no-one is building anything right now. Some smaller companies have started to lay off their employees already."

Jamshid, who is in his 30s and runs a restaurant in Tehran, said his business was "not the same as before [the war]. I'm not optimistic about the situation. I estimate that I can hold this up for a month, maybe two, at most. The rent is breaking my back. It's 200m tomans a month [approx. $1,270; £960; €1,100]."

(That is high compared to the average monthly salary, which is estimated to be between $200 and $300)

Most of the people that the BBC has talked to are still paying hefty prices for access to the internet. The main route has been via sharing connections through those who have satellite internet Starlink systems.

But, using or possessing Starlink in Iran carries a punishment of up to two years in prison, and authorities have reportedly been searching for the dishes to stop people from connecting.

Internet access is being sold on the Telegram messaging app for around $6 for 1GB of data.

"I feel like I'm losing my mind. I didn't even renew my internet package that I'm paying so much for," said Marjan, in her 20s and from Tehran.

"What's the point if Trump hits energy infrastructure? I'm distressed. My parents too… they argue over the smallest things now. I keep telling myself I'm fine, but I've had three mental breakdowns already today."
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Iran showed no sign of agreeing to U.S. President Donald Trump's demand that it open the Strait of Hormuz by the end of Tuesday or suffer massive attacks on its civilian infrastructure, in what would be the biggest escalation yet of the war.

A senior Iranian source told Reuters that Tehran had ‌rejected a proposal conveyed by intermediaries for a temporary ceasefire. Talks on a lasting peace could begin only after the U.S. and Israel end their strikes, provide a guarantee they will not resume and offer compensation for damages.

Any future settlement must leave Iran in control of the strait, imposing fees on ships that use it, the source said on condition of anonymity.

As the clock ticked down on Trump's deadline to unleash "hell", global markets were largely frozen, hesitant to bet on whether Trump would follow through on his threats or call them off as he has in the past.