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Let’s wait and see if and what are tariffed before freaking out .
 

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What does the United States Marine Corps Association have to do with tariffs, FFS?

NOTHING..

United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement​


 

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NOTHING..

United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement​


Oh. Canadians.

That's nice. Pretty good comedians.
 

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What we see is that USA wants to change the trade agreement. Okay, then change the agreement, if the USA wants the products, they will have to pay for them at a new price, higher price we want, plus 25% tariffs, and pay a month in advance. Given that old Donnie is known for not paying for services and products, and he is in charge of USA, then you treat him like a child.
 

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What we see is that USA wants to change the trade agreement. Okay, then change the agreement, if the USA wants the products, they will have to pay for them at a new price, higher price we want, plus 25% tariffs, and pay a month in advance. Given that old Donnie is known for not paying for services and products, and he is in charge of USA, then you treat him like a child.
Um. . . "the USA" isn't buying the goods. US companies (mostly US subsidiaries of global MNCs) are. Trump isn't actually buying them, neither with his own money nor with Federal tax money.
 

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Um. . . "the USA" isn't buying the goods. US companies (mostly US subsidiaries of global MNCs) are. Trump isn't actually buying them, neither with his own money nor with Federal tax money.
Youre mistaken on that. Strategic (Critical) Resources are indeed bought by US Govt from Canadian Govt middled through companies.


The Crown is the end all be all of resources who can and does sell resources Govt to Govt.
 
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What we see is that USA wants to change the trade agreement. Okay, then change the agreement, if the USA wants the products, they will have to pay for them at a new price, higher price we want, plus 25% tariffs, and pay a month in advance. Given that old Donnie is known for not paying for services and products, and he is in charge of USA, then you treat him like a child.
So which products do you sell in the U.S. ? Does your government set the prices ?
 

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Or ya know, we could simply quit letting China use Canada as a 3rd country exporter to circumvent US tariffs and bans on various Chinese products. That's why Trump has threatened a 25% tariff on all Canadian goods. Because Chinese-made shit is packaged here as "product of Canada" and shipped to the US. It's a legitimate beef for the US to have.

Don't know why so many Canadians think that shit is okay. And when you consider some of the other shit Trudeau has done or allowed, we haven't really been a very good neighbour, ally or friend. I mean fuck man, when there's talk about punting Canada from the Five Eyes and none of that talk was initiated by Trump you KNOW we have a serious fucking problem with our govt.
 
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Or ya know, we could simply quit letting China use Canada as a 3rd country exporter to circumvent US tariffs and bans on various Chinese products. That's why Trump has threatened a 25% tariff on all Canadian goods. Because Chinese-made shit is packaged here as "product of Canada" and shipped to the US. It's a legitimate beef for the US to have.

Don't know why so many Canadians think that shit is okay. And when you consider some of the other shit Trudeau has done or allowed, we haven't really been a very good neighbour, ally or friend. I mean fuck man, when there's talk about punting Canada from the Five Eyes and none of that talk was initiated by Trump you KNOW we have a serious fucking problem with our govt.
So who was it who decided putting Canadian pickles on a Chinese cheeseburger makes it a Canadian product?
 

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the trumptychrist will cancel usmca and buttfuck us with more terroriffs. :(
 

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Lutnick says Canada's trade deal with China could threaten CUSMA talks
Speaking to Bloomberg, the U.S. commerce secretary said Canada's 'playing with a set of rules that they haven’t really thought through'

Author of the article:Ling Hui
Published Jan 22, 2026 • Last updated 12 hours ago • 1 minute read

U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick gestures as he attends the World Economic Forum (WEF) annual meeting in Davos on Jan. 21, 2026.
U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick gestures as he attends the World Economic Forum (WEF) annual meeting in Davos on Jan. 21, 2026. Photo by Fabrice COFFRINI /AFP via Getty Images
U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick criticized Canada’s recent trade deal with China as “political noise” that could upend trade deal renegotiations with the United States.


“Do you think China is going to open their economy to accept exports from Canada? This is the silliest thing I’ve ever seen,” Lutnick said in an interview with Bloomberg TV on Thursday while attending the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland.


Last week, Prime Minister Mark Carney announced a deal with China’s President Xi Jinping that saw China’s 100% import tariffs on Canadian canola mostly dropped in return for improved access to Canada’s electric vehicles market.

Ontario Premier Doug Ford criticized the deal due to the potential repercussions for the province’s auto industry, and slammed the Prime Minister for not warning him ahead of the deal’s announcement.

Carney had touted the deal, calling it the result of efforts to build a better relationship with China, whom he called a “predictable” trade partner.

Speaking to Bloomberg, Lutnick called the deal “just political noise coming out of a prime minister.”

He added, “I don’t think it can be real, because he took out the math of Canada’s economy and doing business with the United States of America’s $30 trillion economy. There’s no such thing as changing what they have today.”



Lutnick also said Canada’s deepening trade relations with China could threaten talks with the U.S. over the revamping of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA).

“Do you think the president of the United States is going to say, ‘You should keep having the second-best deal in the world?’… They are playing with a set of rules that they haven’t really thought through,” Lutnick said.

During his interview with Bloomberg, he said the renegotiation of CUSMA would likely happen in the summer.
 
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Canada on carving board as trade talks have stalled with U.S.
Canada is currently on the menu as the United States, Mexico negotiate trade deal without us


Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Published Mar 19, 2026 • 3 minute read

Prime Minister Mark Carney
Prime Minister Mark Carney makes his way to the National Caucus meeting on Parliament Hill February 11, 2026 in Ottawa, Canada. Photo by Dave Chan /GETTY IMAGES
Based on Mark Carney’s view of today’s world, Canada is on the menu rather than at the table. That’s the only way to view what has happened over the last few months as trade talks between Canada and the United States have stalled, but talks between the U.S. and Mexico have been progressing.


Donald Trump’s chief trade negotiator Jamieson Greer was on Fox Business on Wednesday to describe the situation.


“This week, we are having our first formal negotiations with Mexico on the USMCA (known in Canada as the Canada-U.S. Mexico Agreement or CUSMA) and we are doing it just as the president said,” Greer told host Maria Bartiromo.

“We’re having talks separately with Canada, but we’ve moved along with Mexico. Canada is behind on this.”

Minister of International Trade and Intergovernmental Affairs Dominic LeBlanc attends the Council of the Federation meeting in Ottawa on Wednesday, Jan. 15 2025. Photo by Bryan Passifiume /Toronto Sun
U.S., Mexico negotiating without Canada
Canada has been behind on this for some time.

“If we’re not at the table, we’re on the menu,” Carney famously said during a January speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

It seems we are currently on the menu as the Americans and Mexicans negotiate without us. This same thing happened back in 2017, when the Canadian side played hardball and the Americans and Mexicans negotiated a deal without us; one we signed onto at the last minute with very little input.


Sure, the prime minister’s point person in cabinet, Dominic LeBlanc, went to Washington two weeks ago to meet with Greer. While there, he even introduced Canada’s new Ambassador Mark Wiseman and chief trade negotiator Janice Charette to Greer.

Still, there are no formal talks and there haven’t been since shortly after Carney’s trip to Washington on Oct. 7.


Plenty of irritants for Trump
Shortly after that, Trump announced that he was calling off trade talks, citing the anti-tariff ad that Ontario was running on American TV stations featuring former president Ronald Reagan. Trump claimed, falsely, that the ad lied about Reagan’s views on tariffs and was meant to influence the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision on tariffs.


The ad was an irritant for Trump, but there was so much else going on at the time that was also putting sand in the gears of Canada-U.S. relations.

Carney’s proclamations on recognizing a Palestinian state and threatening to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu were irritating Trump, who sees Israel as a great ally of the U.S. There was also what the White House saw as unfair treatment of U.S. auto firms when Industry Minister Melanie Joly reduced import quotas for General Motors and Stellantis over production decisions the companies made.

Since then, Carney has taunted Trump, given speeches against him and generally did everything he can do to ensure that those trade talks don’t resume.

Donald Trump talking with Mark Carney
Prime Minister Mark Carney and U.S. President Donald Trump chat during the FIFA World Cup 2026 Official Draw at John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts on Dec. 5, 2025, in Washington, D.C. Photo by Dan Mullan /Getty Images
‘Good deal for Canadians’ promised
This isn’t what Mark Carney promised Canadians.


“I know the president, I’ve dealt with the president in the past in my previous roles when he was in his first term and I know how to negotiate,” Carney said during the Liberal leadership race that made him PM.

During the election campaign that followed, Carney promised a deal.

“We are going to get stronger. We are going to wait this out. They are going to come to the table and we are going to negotiate a good deal for Canadians,” he said in March 2025 just after the campaign began.



No deal in sight
First, his government floated the idea in late May that a deal was imminent, that something would land by the G7 meetings in mid-June. Trump arrived at those meeting in Kananaskis, Alta., and said a deal could be reached quickly, but nothing emerged.

Then there was a promise of a new deal by July 21, which was later revised to Aug. 1. Both dates came and went without a deal and now nothing is in sight.

Some Canadians will be happy there is no deal. There is a feeling among some that their hatred of Trump should mean we abandon the U.S. Economically, that is not possible and the thousands of people losing their jobs due to tariffs and uncertainty can’t afford for us to drop our biggest trading partner.

Judging Carney just by his words and his promises, he is failing Canadians. And that is putting Canada on the menu rather than at the table.