Sanctioned into non-existence for non-compliance is always cool.
Out of these 5, how many are kosher?
The New York Declaration.
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Out of these 5, how many are kosher?
So…no then?
If a nation could be sanctioned into non-existence by the UN, it would’ve been Israel long ago, but here we are, with it being sanctioned by the UN more than all other countries combined as far as I can figure out, and it’s still there.
If ever there was an an impartial judge when it comes to Israel, it’s gotta be the UN.
When you say "the UN," are you speaking of the General Assembly (a talking shop), the International Court of Justice (limited jurisdiction), or the Security Council (the only part with teeth, where the U.S. veto guarantees no action against Israel).
Yep, the five permanent members, who have veto power, are the U.S., Russia, um. . . Luxembourg, . . . Alabama, . . . and. . . hmmm. . . Schenectady!
On Monday, Hamas freed the last living Israeli hostages from Gaza, and Israel sent home busloads of Palestinian detainees under a ceasefire deal brokered by Trump, but Hamas has not publicly committed to downing its weapons.
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that he had communicated to Hamas that the militant group must disarm or it will be forced to.
"If they don't disarm, we will disarm them. And it will happen quickly and perhaps violently," Trump said during a meeting at the White House with Argentine President Javier Milei.
Trump said he communicated this to Hamas and they had agreed to disarm, as his 20-point peace proposal stated.
Trump says Hamas must disarm or be disarmed, perhaps violently — Reuters
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that he had communicated to Hamas that the militant group must disarm or it will be forced to.
Trump says Hamas will be forced to disarm or ‘we will disarm them’ — Guardian US
US president says it should take place in a ‘reasonable period of time’ amid questions over group’s status
“But they will disarm, do you understand me?” he added, saying it should take place in a “reasonable period of time”. (???)
As a Trump-brokered ceasefire comes into effect in Gaza this week, one of the greatest question marks remains the White House’s plans to force Hamas to disarm and leave Gaza if and when the second phase of his 20-point peace deal comes into effect.
“Phase two has started,” he said. “The phases are all a little bit mixed in with each other. You’re gonna start cleaning up. You look at Gaza – it needs a lot of cleanup.
The US president’s own remarks had suggested the group may continue to play a limited role in Gaza, as revelations surfaced of a direct meeting between White House envoys and Hamas negotiators in the highest-level summit ever held between the two sides.
Earlier this week, he admitted the group would have a “limited role” in maintaining order in the short term, raising questions about how the White House may seek to wrangle a peace deal that attempts to restrain Hamas and Israel from resuming the conflict.
Video released on Tuesday by Hamas showed the group’s members executing eight blindfolded…
…bound and kneeling men whom it called “collaborators and outlaws”. Agence France-Presse, which reported the video, said Hamas was targeting “Palestinian criminal gangs and clans” in Gaza after the signing of a ceasefire between the group and Israel.Aboard Air Force One, Trump told reporters Hamas would continue to have a limited role in enforcing security operations before phase two of the peace deal started, despite the fact his 20-point deal expressly said that the group will disarm and abandon its aim to control the Gaza Strip.
“[Hamas] are standing because they do want to stop the problems, and they’ve been open about it, and we gave them approval for a period of time,” Trump said.
Trump says Hamas will be forced to disarm or ‘we will disarm them’ — Guardian US
US president says it should take place in a ‘reasonable period of time’ amid questions over group’s status
Hamas hands over hostage bodies after Israel threatens aid cut — Apple News Spotlight
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Hamas to start handing over bodies of four Israeli hostages Tuesday night, official says — Reuters
Hamas has informed mediators it will begin transferring bodies of four deceased Israeli hostages to Israel at 10 p.m. local time (1900 GMT) on Tuesday, an official involved in the operation told Reuters.
It has always used a combination of gangland-style killings and the appearance of normalcy in governance to control Gaza. This has been Hamas’s pattern since it seized control in an illegal coup in 2007.
The group uses violence when it wants to remind the populace that it is in charge. It has murdered people and dragged them behind motorcycles in the past. Hamas has carried out public “field executions” of people in the streets. It has attacked clans and families that it believes are dissidents, labeling them “collaborators.”
Hamas faced two years of war with Israel, where its terrorists could not easily travel in the open while bearing arms. However, every time there has been a ceasefire, Hamas has resurfaced with uniforms and guns.
It may have lost most of its rocket arsenal and even many of its tunnels. However, it has not lost its small arms, such as its AK-47 rifles. That is how Hamas came to power in the first place – with AK-47s. It did not have many missiles back in 2007.
Hamas initiates reign of terror to assert power in Gaza - analysis — The Jerusalem Post
Hamas has launched several attacks on rival clans, killing "collaborators" attempting to challenge Hamas's superiority in post-ceasefire Gaza.
Fighting breaks out between Hamas and armed clan members in Gaza City: report — New York Post
At least 27 people are dead after intense street fighting broke out between Hamas terrorists and armed clan members within Gaza City.
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On Monday, Hamas freed the last living Israeli hostages from Gaza, and Israel sent home busloads of Palestinian detainees under a ceasefire deal brokered by Trump, but Hamas has not publicly committed to downing its weapons.
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that he had communicated to Hamas that the militant group must disarm or it will be forced to.
"If they don't disarm, we will disarm them. And it will happen quickly and perhaps violently," Trump said during a meeting at the White House with Argentine President Javier Milei.
Trump said he communicated this to Hamas and they had agreed to disarm, as his 20-point peace proposal stated.
"I spoke to Hamas, and I said, you're going to disarm, right? Yes, sir, we're going to disarm. That's what they told me," Trump said, later clarifying that he passed the message through intermediaries? Uhm, ok.
Trump says Hamas must disarm or be disarmed, perhaps violently — Reuters
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that he had communicated to Hamas that the militant group must disarm or it will be forced to.apple.news
Speaking with reporters on Tuesday, Trump said: “If they don’t disarm, we will disarm them and it will happen quickly and perhaps violently.
Trump says Hamas will be forced to disarm or ‘we will disarm them’ — Guardian US
US president says it should take place in a ‘reasonable period of time’ amid questions over group’s status
“But they will disarm, do you understand me?” he added, saying it should take place in a “reasonable period of time”. (???)
As a Trump-brokered ceasefire comes into effect in Gaza this week, one of the greatest question marks remains the White House’s plans to force Hamas to disarm and leave Gaza if and when the second phase of his 20-point peace deal comes into effect.
“Phase two has started,” he said. “The phases are all a little bit mixed in with each other. You’re gonna start cleaning up. You look at Gaza – it needs a lot of cleanup.
The US president’s own remarks had suggested the group may continue to play a limited role in Gaza, as revelations surfaced of a direct meeting between White House envoys and Hamas negotiators in the highest-level summit ever held between the two sides.
Earlier this week, he admitted the group would have a “limited role” in maintaining order in the short term, raising questions about how the White House may seek to wrangle a peace deal that attempts to restrain Hamas and Israel from resuming the conflict.
Video released on Tuesday by Hamas showed the group’s members executing eight blindfolded…
View attachment 31600…bound and kneeling men whom it called “collaborators and outlaws”. Agence France-Presse, which reported the video, said Hamas was targeting “Palestinian criminal gangs and clans” in Gaza after the signing of a ceasefire between the group and Israel.
Aboard Air Force One, Trump told reporters Hamas would continue to have a limited role in enforcing security operations before phase two of the peace deal started, despite the fact his 20-point deal expressly said that the group will disarm and abandon its aim to control the Gaza Strip.
“[Hamas] are standing because they do want to stop the problems, and they’ve been open about it, and we gave them approval for a period of time,” Trump said.
Hamas has informed mediators it will begin transferring bodies of four deceased Israeli hostages to Israel at 10 p.m. local time (1900 GMT) on Tuesday, an official involved in the operation told Reuters.Trump says Hamas will be forced to disarm or ‘we will disarm them’ — Guardian US
US president says it should take place in a ‘reasonable period of time’ amid questions over group’s status
Earlier, Israeli officials said the Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt would stay closed at least through Wednesday and the flow of aid into the Palestinian enclave wouldl be reduced to put pressure on the militant group to hand over the bodies of the hostages it is holding.
Hamas hands over hostage bodies after Israel threatens aid cut — Apple News Spotlight
Get the news of the day, all in one place
Hamas has launched several attacks on dissidents in the meantime, murdering them and dragging them through the streets, to show that it has no intention of going anywhere.
Hamas to start handing over bodies of four Israeli hostages Tuesday night, official says — Reuters
Hamas has informed mediators it will begin transferring bodies of four deceased Israeli hostages to Israel at 10 p.m. local time (1900 GMT) on Tuesday, an official involved in the operation told Reuters.
It has always used a combination of gangland-style killings and the appearance of normalcy in governance to control Gaza. This has been Hamas’s pattern since it seized control in an illegal coup in 2007.
The group uses violence when it wants to remind the populace that it is in charge. It has murdered people and dragged them behind motorcycles in the past. Hamas has carried out public “field executions” of people in the streets. It has attacked clans and families that it believes are dissidents, labeling them “collaborators.”
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Hamas faced two years of war with Israel, where its terrorists could not easily travel in the open while bearing arms. However, every time there has been a ceasefire, Hamas has resurfaced with uniforms and guns.
It may have lost most of its rocket arsenal and even many of its tunnels. However, it has not lost its small arms, such as its AK-47 rifles. That is how Hamas came to power in the first place – with AK-47s. It did not have many missiles back in 2007.
The Hamas-controlled Interior Ministry said its forces were moving to restore order and cautioned that “any armed activity outside the framework of the resistance” would be met with decisive action, the BBC reported.
Hamas initiates reign of terror to assert power in Gaza - analysis — The Jerusalem Post
Hamas has launched several attacks on rival clans, killing "collaborators" attempting to challenge Hamas's superiority in post-ceasefire Gaza.
Fighting breaks out between Hamas and armed clan members in Gaza City: report — New York Post
At least 27 people are dead after intense street fighting broke out between Hamas terrorists and armed clan members within Gaza City.
Why is it go dog go for everyone else to kill off Isis but bad if it's one of Bibis hired goon factions who stole food and medical supplies being done in by Hamas?
Treason is within reason.
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Yes, a very broad brush. What is the “UN System?”
By offering a gun buy back in Canada mean the Canadian government generally or the Liberal Party of Canada specifically sold every gun (including all the guns that come into Canada across the longest undefended border illegally) existing in Canada was sold to every citizen (and non-citizen) by the Canadian government?
That is to go to excuse, isn’t it? Or is it that Hamas (& Friends) are eliminating whom they consider “dissidents” as opposed to those they consider “collaborators”?
(It was sort of like a wedding breaking out spontaneously in days gone by, in places like Afghanistan, every single time the Americans dropped a bomb. A few times it could be possible or plausible, but damn near every single time? That stretches the boundaries of credibility.)
Treason against….Hamas? Or Gaza and its citizens?
Who? Which one or ones of the many factions do you believe where paid by Israel to steal the aid that Hamas (& friends) where already stealing, for decades? Would that be everyone except Hamas?
I know this might sound like crazy talk, but there are actually some things that aren’t the fault of the Jews. I know, Hasbara, etc…
What is the UN System by the way?
First from Benny Nutlessyahud
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has confirmed that Israel is arming clans in Gaza that he says are opposed to Hamas.
His comments came after Israeli media reports quoted defence sources as saying Netanyahu had authorised giving weapons to one particular group in the south of Gaza.
Several Israeli politicians have accused Netanyahu of endangering Israeli security.
"What's wrong with this?" Netanyahu says in a short video he's tweeted. "It only saves the lives of Israeli solders", he continues - "and publicising it only helps Hamas".
Guns, cash and American aid: Investigation reveals Israel's support for Gaza militia
The former looting gang is living in luxury thanks to aid from the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation and smuggled cash, cars and cigarettes.
Israel is backing a militia known for looting aid in Gaza
COLUMN. Instead of supporting a Palestinian alternative to Hamas in the Gaza Strip, the Israeli military has chosen to back and arm the militia of a notorious gangster who is responsible for numerous lootings of humanitarian aid, historian Jean-Pierre Filiu writes in his column.
www.lemonde.fr
Now your Hasbara debunked by IDF
No Proof Hamas Routinely Stole U.N. Aid, Israeli Military Officials Say
Israel has long restricted aid to Gaza on the argument that Hamas steals it to use as a weapon of control over the population. On Saturday, the Israeli military announced new airdrops of aid.
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Several men walk carrying cardboard boxes labeled "Food Rations."
Palestinians with food handouts northwest of Gaza City last month.Credit...Saher Alghorra for The New York Times
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By Natan Odenheimer
Reporting from Jerusalem
July 26, 2025
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For nearly two years, Israel has accused Hamas of stealing aid provided by the United Nations and other international organizations. The government has used that claim as its main rationale for restricting food from entering Gaza.
But the Israeli military never found proof that the Palestinian militant group had systematically stolen aid from the United Nations, the biggest supplier of emergency assistance to Gaza for most of the war, according to two senior Israeli military officials and two other Israelis involved in the matter.
In fact, the Israeli military officials said, the U.N. aid delivery system, which Israel derided and undermined, was largely effective in providing food to Gaza’s desperate and hungry population.
Now, with hunger at crisis levels in the territory, Israel is coming under increased international pressure over its conduct of the war in Gaza and the humanitarian suffering it has brought. Doctors in the territory say that an increasing number of their patients are suffering from — and dying of — starvation.
Please try to keep up to date and accurate.
Huh, that is interesting. So, what funded the 500kms of tunnels under Gaza, & how are Hamas’s leaders in Qatar billionaires?
www.jpost.com
USAID's denial of Hamas aid theft clash with Gazan reality | The Jerusalem Post
The study's acknowledgment of severe limitations, combined with extensive documentation of Hamas aid diversion from multiple sources, raises serious questions about the reliability of its findings.
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I blame the scary terrorists.Huh, that is interesting. So, what funded the 500kms of tunnels under Gaza, & how are Hamas’s leaders in Qatar billionaires?
USAID's denial of Hamas aid theft clash with Gazan reality | The Jerusalem Post
The study's acknowledgment of severe limitations, combined with extensive documentation of Hamas aid diversion from multiple sources, raises serious questions about the reliability of its findings.
If you were paying attention, Israel paid for the tunnels. Would you like to hear it again from the mouth of a former Likud MK member? $800M of $1.5Billion in bribe money. If you did hear it again will you ignore it again?Huh, that is interesting. So, what funded the 500kms of tunnels under Gaza, & how are Hamas’s leaders in Qatar billionaires?
USAID's denial of Hamas aid theft clash with Gazan reality | The Jerusalem Post
The study's acknowledgment of severe limitations, combined with extensive documentation of Hamas aid diversion from multiple sources, raises serious questions about the reliability of its findings.
Or are you talking about the digital tunnels that never existed under hospitals?
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I’ve gotta run but, funny you mentioned hospitals.
After Israeli Withdrawal, Hamas Launches Violent Crackdown on Rivals in Gaza — The Wall Street Journal
Firefights and public executions raise concerns about spiral of internecine violence; ‘I could hear gunfire all around’